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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
looks definetly has its part in this build since a single 780 4770k build wont break the budget. biggest pc ive ever had is with the zalman 11 plus. which i dont recommend for building. lots of hassle merghlghllsdfdsl but i want to try a big case cause right now imo it looks better xd and hopefully less trouble building it | ||
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IMKR
United States378 Posts
On December 24 2013 22:09 Ropid wrote: Did you forget the PCI-E power connectors for the GPU? nope, i connected both the PCI-E from the rosewill capstone to it. one says pci express and the other one says sli ready. plugged them both into the two 8 pin slot on the gpu msi gtx 760 hawk | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On December 24 2013 22:09 KapsyL wrote: @ropid. back xd yeah i love the big window of 900D thats one of the big reasons as to why i decided that one instead of xigmatek elysium. whats a clc cooler? something big or :o? looks definetly has its part in this build since a single 780 4770k build wont break the budget. biggest pc ive ever had is with the zalman 11 plus. which i dont recommend for building. lots of hassle merghlghllsdfdsl but i want to try a big case cause right now imo it looks better xd and hopefully less trouble building it You might still want to take a look at something smaller like 750D. The 900D is sooo large, can fit motherboards like this: http://i.imgur.com/FwJf8ou.png. It might look weird to have a lot of empty space. CLC = "closed loop cooler", means it's one of those all-in-one water cooling solutions where all parts are already assembled, already filled with water and sealed, not intended to ever be opened up. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On December 24 2013 20:16 IMKR wrote: Issue with finished PC I just finished my bro's PC, and put the DVI port from monitor into the GPU, however, when i power it up, it says no signal. even if i use HDMI. also, i tried using the motherboard DVI port, and still no signal. what could be the problem? EDIT: also, everything lights up. the gpu fan spins, and case fan spins, the stock fan for cpu spins. EDIT2: i removed the GPU and used the mother board with DVI and it works so now im sure something is wrong with the GPU set up maybe im putting in the PCIE ports wrong? but when i turn it on, the GPU lights up and the fans spin I have the following ideas: (1) Try to make sure the card is seated correctly. (2) The slot itself might not be good mechanically, try a different slot if the board has another one. (3) The card might be broken. (4) The board might be broken. (5) Look up the beep codes for the motherboard's manufacturer if you have a PC speaker thingy plugged into the board. (6) Pins in the CPU socket might be bent. You can test for (3) and (4) if you have another PC where you can put the card into to see if that works or not. To check (6), you need to remove the CPU and shine a light into the socket and look closely. It is also very annoying because you have to remove the CPU cooler, which means you should replace thermal paste. Perhaps let your desperation build up and get unbearable before doing that. | ||
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IMKR
United States378 Posts
i5 4670 msi gtx 760 hawk h81m p33 mobo 1) how do i make sure the card is seated correctly? when i remove the GPU and use the motherboard DVI port, it works fine 2) the mobo only has 1 gpu slot I do have my GPU (same one) is it safe to try using that one to my bros mobo? and how do i know if the board is broken? 5) my bros dont have any speakers atm, i think i will try picking up speakers and try this method later 6)I dont think the CPU is damaged since if i remove the GPU totally and use the mobo DVI, it goes to bios. if i have GPU in, both the GPU and the Motherboard ports say "no signal" on the monitor if i take out the GPU and use the motherboard, i can go to the bios | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
All I can think of off the top of my head. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
For various reasons Haswell is more challenging to overclock and doesn't overclock as well, so effective overclocked performance is sometimes worse. I don't think it's ever really worse unless you compare a terrible chip to a really awesome one. IPC gains in x264 for example are well into double digits, and average clock is only very slightly lower; the heat hurts on i7 but if you have good cooling and i5 you're pretty much set to throw 1.35v just fine (and volt for volt it definitely doesn't clock worse than ivy, if anything, a tiny bit better because of ivr and super stable vcore) if i have GPU in, both the GPU and the Motherboard ports say "no signal" on the monitor Something silly, but are you sure to be using the first DVI out on your GPU? Do it's fans spin up? | ||
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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
On December 24 2013 23:19 Ropid wrote: You might still want to take a look at something smaller like 750D. The 900D is sooo large, can fit motherboards like this: http://i.imgur.com/FwJf8ou.png. It might look weird to have a lot of empty space. CLC = "closed loop cooler", means it's one of those all-in-one water cooling solutions where all parts are already assembled, already filled with water and sealed, not intended to ever be opened up. from what i understand the 750D is really plastic and feels like low quality but maybe thats just some people being picky can you recommend a CLC for CPU? what can i do in the 900d to make it seem less empty?? | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On December 24 2013 23:57 IMKR wrote: 5) my bros dont have any speakers atm, i think i will try picking up speakers and try this method later That's not what those "PC speaker" are. They are just a part that can do "beep" and nothing else. They are plugged into the pins where you connect the power and reset button and lights. It's safe to use a different GPU in that board from all I've ever seen, but you might instead do the reverse, check out the two cards in your PC. | ||
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McTeazy
Canada297 Posts
On December 24 2013 15:25 Myrmidon wrote: McTeazy, some higher-end card prices are inflated currently as a result of cryptocurrency mining. Leeoku, almost all modular power supplies come with the cables. Sometimes you can purchase different-length or blinged out alternative cable sets. Or simply extra cables or different types of ones. On a non-modular 350W+ power supply (all you need), there's unlikely to be more than one or two cable strands that you wouldn't be using. I don't really see much point in having lower-wattage modular models, especially for use in a typical roomy mid-tower case where there's lots of room to stuff cables, and there correspondingly aren't too many options. It's a different matter for high-wattage models where you're looking at cable / kraken / tentacle monsters or small form factor systems. If you can spare the money, Rosewill Capstone 450-M or Seasonic G 450W (SSR-450RM) should be fine. There really aren't reasonably priced fully modular sets that aren't considerably lower quality. excuse my ignorance, but what the hell does this mean? video card prices are inflated because people are buying them with bitcoin? | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On December 25 2013 01:03 McTeazy wrote: excuse my ignorance, but what the hell does this mean? video card prices are inflated because people are buying them with bitcoin? They are using them as computing machines for mining "litecoin" (that's not Bitcoin, something totally separate). "Mining" means, your machine is a part of the backbone of that particular cryptocurrency system. You are rewarded by getting a bunch of that currency. + Show Spoiler + That's just how I understood what's happening. It might be somewhat wrong as I was confused reading stuff about this. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On December 25 2013 01:15 Ropid wrote: They are using them as computing machines for mining "litecoin" (that's not Bitcoin, something totally separate). "Mining" means, your machine is a part of the backbone of that particular cryptocurrency system. You are rewarded by getting a bunch of that currency. + Show Spoiler + That's just how I understood what's happening. It might be somewhat wrong as I was confused reading stuff about this. As far as I know this is it. Since mining bitcoins or litecoins essentially can mean free money (over time), people are in a craze to buy GPUs that mine crypto currencies well. AMD GPUs do quite well, so the demand of such card has increased. This leads to the increase of their price. So the R9 series cards are being sold at a higher price than what they would normally be at the moment. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
or five or 100, apparently | ||
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Leeoku
1617 Posts
Mobo+Processor: i5 4570+Asus h87 $310 http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/BDL_4570_H87MPLUSCSM GPU: Gigabyte 760 2gb OC $240 http://www.canadacomputers.com/BoxingSale2013/index.php (may decide to buy a sapphire r9 270x for $200, thoughts for dual monitor single GPU max games atm are Dota2, may want to stream) PSU: (Is this the one myrr referred to?) Seasonic 450W $85 Gold http://products.ncix.com/detail/seasonic-g-series-450w-atx-80plus-gold-modular-120mm-fan-power-supply-psu-dc-to-dc-c9-76941.htm RAM: Gskill ripjaw (unsure what the difference is between the 2x4gb kit@75 dollar and the 4gb DIMM memory @ 35 dollar) http://www.redflagdeals.com/flyers/canada-computers-and-electronics/boxing-day-sale-dec-26-to-dec-26-2013-23129/?page=4#flyer HDD: WD blue? Haven't seen many deals on HDD but I think thats what's sufficient Monitor: haven't started looking yet lols | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
Yes, that's the Seasonic G which is semi-modular. 2x4GB kits are tested together. 4GB are not. Compatibility issues are rare so it doesn't really matter what you get. | ||
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Leeoku
1617 Posts
The 4670 and 4670k have such a small price difference... Im guessing its worth it to throw the extra bucks in and learn how to OC? (4670 is 235 vs 4670k at 250). Then if I do get the K i get a z87 board? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
z87x-d3h is awesome cheap atx board z87 opens up the option of spending a little more for a nice RAM kit (usually ~2133mhz c9 or ~2400c10 rated if you don't know what to look for beyond that) which i would do if getting z87+4670k http://imgur.com/a/RQoYC (sc2 intensive bench run) ^stock would be about equal to second lowest result I dunno about the returns from memory on this bench (they seem surprisingly big), i had to restart PC and game client to add the 2200c9 scores, but i don't know how to benchmark more precisely (if anyone has any idea's, let me know) | ||
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Leeoku
1617 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Thermalright-Prepares-HR-02-Macho-CPU-Cooler-for-European-Debut-3.jpg which is not at all comparable in cooling ability to the stock cooler http://images.overclock.co.uk/product_images/large/RgsmuUL1BJ_BX80646I54670Kb.jpg It's pretty obvious why when you look at them And no, you don't need better cooling for running stock voltage or close to stock voltage/settings, just if you wanna get to like 1.25-1.35v (typical ~4.5-4.6ghz) instead of ~3.7-4ghz @~1.05v | ||
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