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Ropid
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Leeoku
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skyR
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URfavHO
United States514 Posts
At the moment, I am strongly considering getting an Intel i5-4670($15 promo code) and a basic $70-ish mobo(with 4 slots of ram to fit my 4 sticks). I would like some guidance as to whether this would be appropriate or if a less expensive option would give me a comparable result. What is your current build? AMD Athlon 635 x4 4 sticks Adata 1600 2gb of ddr3 ASRock AM3 AMD 770 samsung 830 120 gb ssd hitachi 500gb hdd Gigabyte 6850 2 gb corsair 450w PSU What is your monitor's native resolution? My primarily monitor runs at 1920x1080 and my secondary runs at 1600x900. Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade? I would like to upgrade my CPU and mobo for the purpose of playing BF4, Rome2, and Natural Selection2. I am in possession of an after-market heatsink so overclocking is a possibility. Generally, I don't mind playing games in low or medium settings to gain frames per second. Additionally, my poor Athlon 635 can barely run those games at low settings with a low-ish framse per second. What is your budget? My budget is under 300 USD. I prefer to spend less. What country will you be buying your parts in? USA If you have any brand or retailer preferences, please specify. Newegg and Amazon are available to me. (rest in peace Santa Clara Microcenter; you will always be missed.) | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On December 25 2013 11:03 Leeoku wrote: Does that mean that board is ITX? (says form factor itx i think that references it) Im assuming itx is smallest? If so should I just choose a larger board given im gona use r4 define ATX is full size. mATX has like two expansion card slots cut off, ITX is a tiny square with just a single expansion card slot. I don't know if it's a good choice! I think its price might be pretty fair if the WiFi will work well and you want to use that feature (it should actually be pretty great, comes with an antenna using a cable that you can move around, so surely better than a WiFi USB stick or something). I just worry there might be something cheaper in normal size plus buying WiFi separately. WiFi is missing in all cheap ATX boards. It's a special feature for the ATX boards. It's often on the ITX boards because people want to build tiny computers with those, set up next to the TV or something, and WiFi makes sense to have for that. There's no room for upgrades on ITX so it's a good feature to have on the board itself. The board has only one expansion slot for the graphics card and nothing else. | ||
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IMKR
United States378 Posts
On December 25 2013 00:39 Incognoto wrote: Honestly it sounds a lot like everything is working (fans spinning and whatnot), I doubt anything is broken. I really think it's a power connector issue. What PSU are you using? Try troubleshooting the problem from there. My computer did something similar when I test booted; I hadn't plugged the proper PSU connector to the CPU header (is that the correct term?) in the motherboard so it didn't work. All I can think of off the top of my head. My psu is a rosewill capstone. I only connected the PCIE (2 8 pins) to the GPU and connected the GPU into the motherboard slot. (for the PSU to CPU header thing, is that the one thats labled "CP" and "U1" ?? i plugged in the CP one) On December 25 2013 00:51 Cyro wrote: Something silly, but are you sure to be using the first DVI out on your GPU? Do it's fans spin up? how do know which is the first DVI out? on the gpu, theres 2 DVI outputs but they both look a little different. i used the one that looks exaclty the same as the DVI cable. and yes the fans on the GPU spin and theres a blue light that lights up. On December 25 2013 00:58 Ropid wrote: That's not what those "PC speaker" are. They are just a part that can do "beep" and nothing else. They are plugged into the pins where you connect the power and reset button and lights. It's safe to use a different GPU in that board from all I've ever seen, but you might instead do the reverse, check out the two cards in your PC. for the PC speaker test, dont i need speakers to hear the beeps? (this monitor doesnt have built in speakers) and im not sure what you mean by the bolded part. what 2 cards in the PC?? | ||
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Leeoku
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On December 25 2013 11:57 Leeoku wrote: @ropid so would just buying an atx board with a usb / pci wireless be better given my case is FD define r4? I really don't know. Personally, I predict I'd be fine with an ITX board, but you should take a good look at it. It is missing stuff. Everything is cramped and they had to ditch a bunch of connectors and slots. You won't ever upgrade RAM without completely replacing it. You won't ever run a bunch of old HDDs with it as it might not have enough connectors for that (while your Define R4 case has room for a lot of HDDs). But you might not need any of that. If you ever run into problems with RAM size, you can just buy a new kit of two larger sticks, sell the old kit on ebay. Regarding HDDs, an external one often actually makes more sense if it's for saving backups or other things you don't access often. You probably won't ever feel the need to buy a sound card or something, same with other expansion cards. If you really need something, there's also everything available external nowadays because notebooks got so popular. | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On December 25 2013 11:55 IMKR wrote: My psu is a rosewill capstone. I only connected the PCIE (2 8 pins) to the GPU and connected the GPU into the motherboard slot. (for the PSU to CPU header thing, is that the one thats labled "CP" and "U1" ?? i plugged in the CP one) how do know which is the first DVI out? on the gpu, theres 2 DVI outputs but they both look a little different. i used the one that looks exaclty the same as the DVI cable. and yes the fans on the GPU spin and theres a blue light that lights up. for the PC speaker test, dont i need speakers to hear the beeps? (this monitor doesnt have built in speakers) and im not sure what you mean by the bolded part. what 2 cards in the PC?? That "PC speaker" is not actually a normal speaker. It's a part that can literally just beep (can actually do a little more, though still just beep boop pretty much). I got one with my case that looked like this: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Io7D8aF.png) Number one DVI connector should be the one that has that plus sign with four dots, not the one that looks like the DVI monitor cable. I meant you could use your PC for experimenting. Try to check both of the two graphics cards work in your PC instead of trying your good card in the possibly broken board. | ||
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IMKR
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and for the DVI, i put it into the one w/o the 4 dots. i guess ill take everything out and redo this also, how do i use that beeping thing with that cable? and i dont need any speakeres or built in speakers for the sound to work? | ||
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IMKR
United States378 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/FLZT4EB.png) | ||
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IMKR
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the fan still spun and lit up and all though but still no signal | ||
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IMKR
United States378 Posts
is it possible that my PCI-E slot on my mobo is broken? how do i check that if it is? my gpu isnt broken tho right? since the fan spins and LED on gpu lights up? EDIT: what is the V-check points on the GPU also? | ||
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Soloturtle
Canada333 Posts
http://products.ncix.com/promo/boxingweek2013x66.htm http://www.canadacomputers.com/BoxingSale2013/index.php?boxingweek=comp What is your budget? Around $1000, the lower the better What is your monitor's native resolution? 1920 x 1080 What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings? SC2, Dota2, various steam games (Nothing extreme) What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming? Nothing particular, school/gaming computer Do you intend to overclock? No, not necessary I think Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire? No, out of budget Do you need an operating system? Nope, got one Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget? I need a monitor, one that isn't very large (Lower than 24 inches) Yes, part of budget If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify. Not particularly, Prefer an intel processor and nvidia graphics card but any is fine if it's a good deal and reliable What country will you be buying your parts in? Canada If you have any retailer preferences, please specify. Ncix and canada computers I prefer buying majority from 1 retailer to save on shipping They also have doorbuster deals and I was wondering if anything is worth lining up for in the cold weather. (-18 celsius) Thanks, I appreciate all the help I can get! Merry Christmas!! | ||
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Leeoku
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GPU: gtx 770 ~350 Mobo: h87 ~90 CPU: 4670~220 Case: Fractal define r4~80 ram: Corsair Low Profile 1x8gb 70 PSU: seasonic gold 450 W ~85 (do i need the 550?) WD Blue HDD Optical Drive Wireless | ||
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IMKR
United States378 Posts
100% his GPU was broken but how come the broken GPU still lights up and the fans still turn? | ||
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Avarice
United States36 Posts
After a bit of looking around, it seems like an upgrade from a gtx560 ti to a 770 would suit me for the upcoming couple of years. The modding guide I'm following to set up the framework is suggesting a noticeable difference between 2g and 4g vram. Any opinions from the more technically affluent around here on that one? Will texture sizes still be limited enough by consoles that only extremely modded games will need more than 2g for the forseeable future? Thanks for your time. | ||
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