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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
December 25 2013 17:37 GMT
#3341
For the PSU you chose, if you click on it to get to the page with its details, it says it has only two PCI-E power cables. I don't know if that's a mistake in the list as it's 850W, but it would be weird, not enough cables for two graphics cards for your future SLI idea.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-25 18:31:00
December 25 2013 17:47 GMT
#3342
XFX Pro 850W (Seasonic SS___AT, also used in Corsair TX V2) has four. It's a mistake. That is, unless XFX really rijiggered their product line by gimping themselves.

XFX Pro 850W is the best deal there for higher wattages by a long shot, but that didn't stop you from putting in a H110 or Core i7 and so on...

And I thought guys with the windowed cases didn't like high-wattage non-modular power supplies with all the cable strands they aren't using?


edit: gdi XFX, stop changing naming "conventions" all day every day.
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
December 25 2013 18:17 GMT
#3343
from what i understood it was modular. im gonna go check again brb
Jurg Jurg Jurg
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-25 18:23:21
December 25 2013 18:19 GMT
#3344
it says semi modular wtf does that mean. what do you mean with the i7 and h110? im so bad at this >,<
definetly dont want lots of cables so will have to change it thought it was so nice.
Jurg Jurg Jurg
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 25 2013 18:29 GMT
#3345
Oh, my bad. XFX has changed their product naming scheme about once a year and it's hard to follow when some designations mean different things now. =/

That's the modular version of the same power supply from Seasonic.

Semi modular is people being more specific and saying it's modular but not all cables are modular (some still hardwired). In this case it doesn't look like many.

By the i7 and H110 I mean that most of your choices (well, not your RAM now) look not particularly price conscious, while the XFX does. But I guess if it's the modular version it's not so out of place, just a little dated and less efficient. It's better quality in construction and electrical stability (but less modular, less efficient, louder) than the more expensive Corsair RM, for example.
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
December 25 2013 18:37 GMT
#3346
i chose the XFX one because a friend has it so i know it works xd. price conscious meh not a big deal atm moneys guuuud.
downgraded my RAM to this one cos they wouldnt build anything with more then 1600mhz in for some reason about it being incompatible with other parts idno. since its only semi modular im gonna need another psu.

suggestions for something which will easily hold haswell oc + sli 780 + loads of extra fans + whatever if i try to get 2400mhz rams later on plz?
Jurg Jurg Jurg
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
December 25 2013 18:42 GMT
#3347
Corsair AX860. Also AX860i if you want the shiny software / controls that aren't particularly accurate anyway.

Aurum Pro and Dark Power Pro are good but not fully modular.
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-25 18:43:17
December 25 2013 18:43 GMT
#3348
http://www.inet.se/produkt/6911687/corsair-rm-850w-80-gold-modular

??'

Meh you were faster ok ty!
Jurg Jurg Jurg
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-25 18:59:17
December 25 2013 18:57 GMT
#3349
On December 26 2013 03:37 KapsyL wrote:
i chose the XFX one because a friend has it so i know it works xd. price conscious meh not a big deal atm moneys guuuud.
downgraded my RAM to this one cos they wouldnt build anything with more then 1600mhz in for some reason about it being incompatible with other parts idno. since its only semi modular im gonna need another psu.

suggestions for something which will easily hold haswell oc + sli 780 + loads of extra fans + whatever if i try to get 2400mhz rams later on plz?

That faster RAM which is sold as 2133MHz for example, that works like this in practice:

If you don't touch anything in the BIOS menus, it will run at 1333 or 1600MHz by default. That's where the usual standard tops out. The faster RAM can always keep to the normal standard, always comes with timing profiles to run it at something normal like 1600MHz.

If you search around in the BIOS menus, there's an "XMP profile" setting somewhere. That's how you get the advertised speed out of your 2133MHz RAM. It is technically overclocking, but the required timing and voltage settings are all supplied by the memory sticks themselves. You don't have to manually do anything except enable the use of that XMP profile. It will just run (usually).

It does not get you a lot of extra speed, so you should only buy fast RAM if the price feels fair to you.

I don't know what those guys at the shop want regarding not letting you choose faster RAM if you want them to build the PC for you. Perhaps talk to them again, say you don't care if they just don't touch anything and just let it run at 1600MHz speed.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-25 19:00:01
December 25 2013 18:58 GMT
#3350
http://www.inet.se/kundvagn/visa/4396955/2013-12-25

Ok then. Anything else you want to add before i throw this useless scrub laptop out of the window?

are you kidding me?
thats like the 5:th fucking time i miss something from you guys because im writing... 5th fucking time... TODAY
Jurg Jurg Jurg
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
December 25 2013 19:03 GMT
#3351
On December 25 2013 14:11 Leeoku wrote:
So after heavy talk and contemplating i have overthrown my buidl again and this is what I came up with...

GPU: gtx 770 ~350
Mobo: h87 ~90
CPU: 4670~220
Case: Fractal define r4~80
ram: Corsair Low Profile 1x8gb 70
PSU: seasonic gold 450 W ~85 (do i need the 550?)
WD Blue HDD
Optical Drive
Wireless

Additional request. Was wondering if some1 could help me check if my PSU is sufficient
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 25 2013 19:03 GMT
#3352
This is rather unrelated however this thread gets quite some attention so worth mentioning:

L4D2 is free if you put it in your basket on steam right now: http://store.steampowered.com/app/550/
maru lover forever
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
December 25 2013 19:16 GMT
#3353
On December 26 2013 04:03 Leeoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2013 14:11 Leeoku wrote:
So after heavy talk and contemplating i have overthrown my buidl again and this is what I came up with...

GPU: gtx 770 ~350
Mobo: h87 ~90
CPU: 4670~220
Case: Fractal define r4~80
ram: Corsair Low Profile 1x8gb 70
PSU: seasonic gold 450 W ~85 (do i need the 550?)
WD Blue HDD
Optical Drive
Wireless

Additional request. Was wondering if some1 could help me check if my PSU is sufficient


It is, honestly normal draw streaming a game that's maxing your GPU is like 200-250w entire system
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
KapsyL
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden704 Posts
December 25 2013 19:18 GMT
#3354
I will return in a day or two after i return home and have talked to inet about that ram thing. thanks a lot
Jurg Jurg Jurg
ShalanRz
Profile Joined March 2011
6 Posts
December 25 2013 19:53 GMT
#3355
I am buying these parts for my computer and just want an opinion on anything that should be changed on it around the same cost. I am also from Canada so cost is a little higher as a whole compared to US costs currently.

CPU - Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor 219.99
Motherboard - ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA 1150 Motherboard 69.99
Memory - Corsair XMS 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 84.99
Storage - Wester Digital 1 TB 7200 RPM Blue 64.99
PSU - Corsair CX series CX500 500W 59.99
GPU - Gigabyte R9 270 OC 975MHZ 2GB 5.6GHZ GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI 199.99
Case - Bitfenix Survivor Black ATX Mid Tower Case 59.99

Thanks!
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-25 20:21:46
December 25 2013 20:04 GMT
#3356
Hmm. XMP settings on the RAM sticks? I'll have to poke around my BIOS - I remember looking but not seeing any specific to the RAM sticks I put in. Not that the performance I'm getting from just "normal" settings is bad, but if I can push a few more bits faster safely I'm interested. (The sticks specifically say they are compatible with my specific make/model of MB too - G.Skill Ares on Gigabyte Z87.

Oh. Duh. That's the next setting down for expert OC'ing with specific sticks of RAM. I have a "Profile 1" in the XMP drop down which puts the memory speed at 2400, as expected. Although CPU-Z shows 1200, I'm told via other sources that I have to double that to get the real speed.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-25 20:14:43
December 25 2013 20:12 GMT
#3357
On December 26 2013 04:53 ShalanRz wrote:
I am buying these parts for my computer and just want an opinion on anything that should be changed on it around the same cost. I am also from Canada so cost is a little higher as a whole compared to US costs currently.

CPU - Intel Core i5-4670 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor 219.99
Motherboard - ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA 1150 Motherboard 69.99
Memory - Corsair XMS 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 84.99
Storage - Wester Digital 1 TB 7200 RPM Blue 64.99
PSU - Corsair CX series CX500 500W 59.99
GPU - Gigabyte R9 270 OC 975MHZ 2GB 5.6GHZ GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI 199.99
Case - Bitfenix Survivor Black ATX Mid Tower Case 59.99

Thanks!


What do you plan to use it for?
Assuming gaming, which games/setting/resolution.

Edit: ram, psu seems overpriced. (also hhd but im not sure). maybe cheap out on the case a little and buy a better gpu.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 25 2013 20:56 GMT
#3358
Anyway a few questions.

I got aggravated at not understanding how to copy my HDD's partition to the SSD so I just went and installed a fresh copy of Windows in the SSD.

I was downloading ethernet drivers for the new OS and I noticed that Intel had this Rapid Storage thing that seemed to look nice. I installed it and kept getting BSOD on the SSD afterwards. So, after reinstalling Windows a SECOND time, here I am. Without the "rapid storage" drivers the SSD works fine. However I'm curious if I should be getting "drivers" or not. I got the Crucial M500. Advice?
maru lover forever
wptlzkwjd
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada1240 Posts
December 25 2013 20:59 GMT
#3359
Hey guys, is a EVGA Supernova NEX750B 750W ATX EPS12V Power Supply enough to power this build and overclock?

ASUS Z87-A ATX SLI Motherboard
Intel Core i5 4670K
ZOTAC GTX 770
Feel free to add me on steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/MagnusAskeland/
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 25 2013 21:00 GMT
#3360
You don't need Intel RST
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