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Canada4481 Posts
Second one has a twin fan design while the first one is probably reference fan?
The two fan card will probably run quieter and cooler than the single fan.
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The cooler on the first one is usually called "blower style". Second one is usually called "open air".
The first one will be noisier. Its cooler works by sucking air into that hole you see, and pushing it through the card's heat-sink. The air travels along the whole length of the card and gets exhausted directly to the outside. It needs to be very powerful to accomplish that and does it by running very fast. Its noise might possibly remind you of a hair dryer.
The second cooler should be a lot more quiet. Its two fans will run a lot slower. The air they move will mostly shoot back into the inside of the case, so the whole case will get heated up by the hot air coming out of the graphics card.
Typically, the style of cooler on the second card makes more sense to buy. The first card might be better when building a PC with two graphics cards as hot air get exhausted directly to the outside instead of revolving inside the case, meaning you could try to get away with less case fans. I think I heard blower style can never really cool better, but I don't have much first hand experience with noisy parts (except for sending them back after a day).
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On December 27 2013 03:37 Ropid wrote:
The cooler on the first one is usually called "blower style". Second one is usually called "open air".
The first one will be noisier. Its cooler works by sucking air into that hole you see, and pushing it through the card's heat-sink. The air travels along the whole length of the card and gets exhausted directly to the outside. It needs to be very powerful to accomplish that and does it by running very fast. Its noise might possibly remind you of a hair dryer.
The second cooler should be a lot more quiet. Its two fans will run a lot slower. The air they move will mostly shoot back into the inside of the case, so the whole case will get heated up by the hot air coming out of the graphics card.
Typically, the style of cooler on the second card makes more sense to buy. The first card might be better when building a PC with two graphics cards as hot air get exhausted directly to the outside instead of revolving inside the case, meaning you could try to get away with less case fans. I think I heard blower style can never really cool better, but I don't have much first hand experience with noisy parts (except for sending them back after a day).
Thanks a lot! I'm only going to run a single card so if it's both quieter and more effective i'll definitely go with that one.
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got everything sorted out, thanks ropid
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for those interested
Canada comp i5 4670 @$200 and asus 770 @$320
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Just grabbed a Gigabyte 770...damn it's fast! Framerates in sc2 haven't changed at all though; even on ultra the GPU's only running at like 60%, while an impressive 2 cores of my 4670k are maxed out (blizzard pls use more cores).
Looking forward to playing bf4, it's so big it takes years to download.
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What is your budget?
$1300
What is your monitor's native resolution?
N/A
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Diablo 3
Starcraft 2
Max Settings
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Facebook
Photo Edting
Movie Editing
Do you intend to overclock?
No
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No
Do you need an operating system?
Yes Windows 7
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
Yes
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
What country will you be buying your parts in?
Canada
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
NCIX
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+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2013 09:45 Cyro wrote:^Brand doesn't really matter that much unless you're looking into little details (mostly important for advanced users) Been playing some with my vg248qe.. here's a couple shots from sc2, one with game paused, the second with it unpaused and at regular game speed (no fight or anything) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/slMhqxI.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ajxDqV5.png) ..h.how do people play this game competitively without going insane At this point i'd really love to play and shoot for masters again (with smaller masters league now) but i can't stand more than one game Here's two more pics, this was cross-screen map scroll, paused and unpaused. It looks a bit weird because it's only ~1 second long ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jJOuYrL.png) ^Paused replay ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yAqgu4E.png) ^Playing I'll go find that post again with the timer fixes etc but this is bad, damn. It looked like a trainwreck on 60hz, now i have better monitor and 144hz/120hzlightboost it's just a complete joke
What are your specs?
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On December 27 2013 13:36 SeanO23 wrote:
What is your budget?
$1300
What is your monitor's native resolution?
N/A
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Diablo 3
Starcraft 2
Max Settings
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Facebook
Photo Edting
Movie Editing
Do you intend to overclock?
No
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No
Do you need an operating system?
Yes Windows 7
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
Yes
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
What country will you be buying your parts in?
Canada
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
NCIX
With this budget and build requirements I think you can perhaps get a 4770 and get a mid range GPU to go with that? Perhaps Nvidia since those GPUs like Blizzard games more? I don't know about Diablo but what you really need for playing SC2 at max settings is good single threaded performance, and Haswell CPUs give you just that. Then a quad core with hyperthreading should be useful for photo/video/audio editing. So something like:
CPU: i7 4770
Motherboard: H81 or B85 chipset motherboard
Heatsink: stock intel heatsink
RAM: 8 Gb*
GPU: ~GTX 760 ?
Case is your choice, PSU should be around 450-500W and be of decent quality. Not sure of exact numbers but I think that you shouldn't reach $1300 with these parts. However, I think that at this budget, spending some money on a Z87 motherboard, 4770k and a good heatsink can be well worth the extra performance you're going to get. It'll help with both SC2 and the media editing you'll be doing. It'll also be more cost effective overall.
*You could go up to 16 Gb of RAM if you're going to work professionally or do a lot of media editing.
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
Hi,
my gf needs a new 14" laptop where she can play games on. I found two examples but which one is better?
1. Gigabyte U2442D
CPU: 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i5-3230M Processor (2.6GHz-3.2GHz)
Display: 14" HD+ 1600x900 LCD
System Memory: 8GB DDRIII, 2 slots (Max 16GB)
Chipset: Mobile Intel® HM77 Express Chipset
Video Graphics Intel® HD Graphics 4000
NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 730M 2GB
Disk: 750GB + 128GB SSD
2. Gigabyte U24F
CPU: 4th Generation Intel® Core™ i5-4200U 1.6-2.6GHz
System Memory: 8GB DDRIIIL, 2 slot (Max 16GB)
Video Graphics Intel® HD Graphics 4400
NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 750M 2GB
Disk: 750GB + 128GB SSD
which one is better? One has a faster CPU but a slower graphics card or am I wrong?
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Second option has a quad core i5 compared to a dual core i3, which makes it overall better. Not sure how clock rate differences. However the second option has a 4th generation processor compared to the first option which has 3rd generation. In terms if IPC, 4th generation is better, so the second option is better than the first one. The GT 750M is also better than the GT 730M.
So overall, the second one is better than the first one. Not sure about prices and if they're good laptops overall. I feel that ASUS laptops have the best reputation overall but I think online reviews would give you a better opinion than I would.
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On the case of my bros pc that i finished building,
the reset button light keeps flickering. and at different speeds, sometimes fast, sometimes solid for couple seconds and goes back to blinking, etc etc
case is a corsair carbide 330r.
is the blinking normal?
or should the light be solid?
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On December 27 2013 13:36 SeanO23 wrote:
What is your budget?
$1300
What is your monitor's native resolution?
N/A
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Diablo 3
Starcraft 2
Max Settings
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Facebook
Photo Edting
Movie Editing
Do you intend to overclock?
No
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
No
Do you need an operating system?
Yes Windows 7
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
Yes
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
What country will you be buying your parts in?
Canada
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
NCIX
Pick up an ultrasharp 2312hm @ $160 and I will put a build together for you. (sale ends dec 31st i think)
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Gaming_Accessories/productdetail.aspx?c=ca&l=en&s=dhs&cs=cadhs1&sku=320-2807
Edit: You missed out on all the deals, Id suggest waiting till next weeks specials come out.
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These are the results from my bros pc build i did.
no OC at all
+ Show Spoiler +
Im kinda worried about that 3d mark test though.
also, what other tests should i run?
and should i post up some CPUz and GPU z tests?
also on 3DMARK tests, whats the difference between the regular and the extreme firestrike tests?
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United Kingdom20345 Posts
On December 27 2013 14:51 wptlzkwjd wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2013 09:45 Cyro wrote:^Brand doesn't really matter that much unless you're looking into little details (mostly important for advanced users) Been playing some with my vg248qe.. here's a couple shots from sc2, one with game paused, the second with it unpaused and at regular game speed (no fight or anything) ..h.how do people play this game competitively without going insane At this point i'd really love to play and shoot for masters again (with smaller masters league now) but i can't stand more than one game Here's two more pics, this was cross-screen map scroll, paused and unpaused. It looks a bit weird because it's only ~1 second long ^Paused replay ^Playing I'll go find that post again with the timer fixes etc but this is bad, damn. It looked like a trainwreck on 60hz, now i have better monitor and 144hz/120hzlightboost it's just a complete joke What are your specs?
4770k@4.5 - 4.7ghz, 770 @1280/7600 (not gpu-bound)
IMKR, firestrike extreme is native 1440p IIRC
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On December 28 2013 02:41 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2013 14:51 wptlzkwjd wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2013 09:45 Cyro wrote:^Brand doesn't really matter that much unless you're looking into little details (mostly important for advanced users) Been playing some with my vg248qe.. here's a couple shots from sc2, one with game paused, the second with it unpaused and at regular game speed (no fight or anything) ..h.how do people play this game competitively without going insane At this point i'd really love to play and shoot for masters again (with smaller masters league now) but i can't stand more than one game Here's two more pics, this was cross-screen map scroll, paused and unpaused. It looks a bit weird because it's only ~1 second long ^Paused replay ^Playing I'll go find that post again with the timer fixes etc but this is bad, damn. It looked like a trainwreck on 60hz, now i have better monitor and 144hz/120hzlightboost it's just a complete joke What are your specs? 4770k@4.5 - 4.7ghz, 770 @1280/7600 (not gpu-bound) IMKR, firestrike extreme is native 1440p IIRC
what about the regular 3dmark score i got?
is that okay? and what does this test even mean? is it just testing GPU strength? or stability?
also, what is that chart of your post showing? (curious  )
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United Kingdom20345 Posts
On December 28 2013 02:47 IMKR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2013 02:41 Cyro wrote:On December 27 2013 14:51 wptlzkwjd wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 27 2013 09:45 Cyro wrote:^Brand doesn't really matter that much unless you're looking into little details (mostly important for advanced users) Been playing some with my vg248qe.. here's a couple shots from sc2, one with game paused, the second with it unpaused and at regular game speed (no fight or anything) ..h.how do people play this game competitively without going insane At this point i'd really love to play and shoot for masters again (with smaller masters league now) but i can't stand more than one game Here's two more pics, this was cross-screen map scroll, paused and unpaused. It looks a bit weird because it's only ~1 second long ^Paused replay ^Playing I'll go find that post again with the timer fixes etc but this is bad, damn. It looked like a trainwreck on 60hz, now i have better monitor and 144hz/120hzlightboost it's just a complete joke What are your specs? 4770k@4.5 - 4.7ghz, 770 @1280/7600 (not gpu-bound) IMKR, firestrike extreme is native 1440p IIRC what about the regular 3dmark score i got? is that okay? and what does this test even mean? is it just testing GPU strength? or stability? also, what is that chart of your post showing? (curious )
3dmark is a benchmark (testing performance) i dunno the numbers too well
my charts were showing sc2 performance (how long each individual frame took as shown by fraps, put against a few indicators for FPS)
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