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IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
December 27 2013 18:36 GMT
#3401
On December 27 2013 21:56 IMKR wrote:
On the case of my bros pc that i finished building,
the reset button light keeps flickering. and at different speeds, sometimes fast, sometimes solid for couple seconds and goes back to blinking, etc etc

case is a corsair carbide 330r.

is the blinking normal?
or should the light be solid?



anyone know the problem with this?

now atm, he's playing LoL, and the reset buttong LED isnt blinking at all
is this how the case is supposed to be?
or is one of the front panel pins bad?
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 27 2013 18:45 GMT
#3402
You could google but honestly if the computer runs without any problem I don't think it's worth even that.
maru lover forever
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
December 27 2013 18:49 GMT
#3403
yeah the pc runs fine. (so far as i know)

i tried googling it, but theres no real answer to this.

i am having a feeling that its part of the case.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
December 27 2013 18:52 GMT
#3404
maybe you hooked it up incorrectly? and put the activity led with the power led instead?
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
December 27 2013 19:44 GMT
#3405
It's hooked up correctly. Lots of cases have the HDD activity light nested in the reset button.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
IMKR
Profile Joined August 2012
United States378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 20:31:53
December 27 2013 20:31 GMT
#3406
On December 28 2013 03:52 Nagisama wrote:
maybe you hooked it up incorrectly? and put the activity led with the power led instead?


i followed a video of the exact same mobo.
did this build 2x. 1 on my build and 1 on my bros.

so im fairly certain i got the hook up correct.
Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
December 27 2013 20:58 GMT
#3407
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-ca/product/asus-asus-republic-of-gaming-14-1-laptop-black-intel-core-i5-3230m-750gb-hdd-8gb-ram-english-g46vw-ds51-ca/10259132.aspx?path=31a03322b4dabcdd9a23aaed7cbb20c8en02

Found this one, dont know if its good or not.. Looks like it

http://www.futureshop.ca/en-ca/product/msi-msi-gp70-2od-056us-17-3-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-4200m-1tb-hdd-8gb-ram-windows-8-gp70-2od-056us/10277302.aspx?path=fc154149be7e816e67149cf4e5c28049en02

Found this one too, hmmm

Im trying to find a laptop on futureshop.ca to buy today for under 1000$
I found these ones which are decent i think
Would they play on high for dota 2?
Med/High on BF4? Would I be able to stream?
我是冠军
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
December 27 2013 21:06 GMT
#3408
Better to have quad core intel CPU for bf4 as well as decent graphics, and streaming bf4 not really easy
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
LeperKahn
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Romania1848 Posts
December 27 2013 21:43 GMT
#3409
What is your budget?
$1300


What is your monitor's native resolution?
I don't have a monitor


What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Dota 2 - max would be nice
BW - lol
BF4 - mid/high


What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Ableton Live.
I intend to buy a sound card.
It would be useful to have a lot of RAM.
It would be useful to have multiple hard drives at least one of which was 1TB+

Do you intend to overclock?
Eh, don't know how. Seems worth it though.


Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
Nope

Do you need an operating system?
School gives me one

Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
Yes, I need a monitor. It is part of the budget. I think 27" would be nice


If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
I do not


What country will you be buying your parts in?
USA


If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
December 27 2013 23:26 GMT
#3410
Running a gtx650ti and an i5 3570k with 8gb ram and a 430w PSU. Looking to grab a gtx760 at about 200 cad. Great price, wondering what PSU I should upgrade to. I don't think my 430w builder series PSU is capable of handling the 760 and my CPU oc'd to 4.4ghz. Which PSU would you guys recommend so I can find it on ncix Canada.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 23:49:43
December 27 2013 23:39 GMT
#3411
You don't need a new PSU. CX430 is rated for 32A on the 12v Rail which is 384w and you'll NEVER come close to that (even synthetics) with a 3570k and a single 760.

E: Anandtech's test bench was only able to pull 376w AT THE WALL factoring efficiency that's like only ~330w load and that's with a much more power hungry cpu.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
December 27 2013 23:45 GMT
#3412
On December 28 2013 08:26 ZeromuS wrote:
Running a gtx650ti and an i5 3570k with 8gb ram and a 430w PSU. Looking to grab a gtx760 at about 200 cad. Great price, wondering what PSU I should upgrade to. I don't think my 430w builder series PSU is capable of handling the 760 and my CPU oc'd to 4.4ghz. Which PSU would you guys recommend so I can find it on ncix Canada.

It seems your PSU can do about 340W for 12V. Corsair seem to be lying a little about those "430W". I typed in "corsair cx430 v2" into Google Image Search and looked at a photo of a specs label of that PSU and that's where I got that number.

I'm guessing the PSU might be alright for running a GTX 760 and 3570k. Those both use 12V. It's pretty hard to cool a 3570k that's eating more than 100W, so it's probably not using as much as you might think. The GTX 760 says it's 170W at most in its specifications on NVIDIA's website. There might even be some room for overclocking with your current PSU?

100W [cpu] + 200W [gtx760] = 300W

Personally, I'm pretty greedy regarding money and would not spend any on a new PSU before trying it out with this one. I think I'd buy a new one if this one seems to freak out and run its fan very fast and get noisy with the GTX 760.

You need an adapter to turn 4-pin Molex into a PCI-E power connector with the GTX 760 and this PSU. It should come in the box with the graphics card.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
December 27 2013 23:53 GMT
#3413
On December 28 2013 08:45 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2013 08:26 ZeromuS wrote:
Running a gtx650ti and an i5 3570k with 8gb ram and a 430w PSU. Looking to grab a gtx760 at about 200 cad. Great price, wondering what PSU I should upgrade to. I don't think my 430w builder series PSU is capable of handling the 760 and my CPU oc'd to 4.4ghz. Which PSU would you guys recommend so I can find it on ncix Canada.

It seems your PSU can do about 340W for 12V. Corsair seem to be lying a little about those "430W". I typed in "corsair cx430 v2" into Google Image Search and looked at a photo of a specs label of that PSU and that's where I got that number.

CX430 has been 32A on the 12v Rail regardless of version, I don't see where you got 340w...

200W [gtx760]

760 is Power Limited to 195w...
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 00:05:05
December 28 2013 00:02 GMT
#3414
^But it won't use that much, considering average draw on 770 is like 170-180w and it has 33% more cores

Power draw on a single gtx780ti with bios mod (at a 24/7 volt like 1.25v on air) is comfortably like >2.5x higher (2.5x as many cores, higher voltage)

cx430 not too great for ocing with a 290/780 tier card, but other stuff below that, you're really fine, especially on a non-extreme (>1.4v) cpu oc
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
December 28 2013 00:09 GMT
#3415
Saw it here: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/printpage/Corsair-CX430-V2-Power-Supply-Review/1284

This picture say 12V * 28A = 336W: http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/fullimage.php?image=35519

I just used 200W to leave room for overclocking and to be totally safe when guessing if the PSU will be enough.

The newest NVIDIA card I've seen first hand is GTX 5xx series. Is it not possible anymore to tweak voltage?
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
December 28 2013 05:08 GMT
#3416
I'm building a mid-range gaming computer for my brother and I am nearing the end of the planning phase. I would appreciate some critiquing on some of following choices, since it is my first build:

CPU: i5-4670K (not planning on overclocking atm, but I'll try to get the K if it's only $5-10 more)
GPU: PNY GTX 770 2GB (less expensive than 280X and a fair jump from the 270X and 760, so I figured it would be worth it)
PSU: Corsair CX500W[I projected my idle to be somewhere around 100W and load to be around 350W for the system.]
Mobo: ASUS B85-PLUS, consistent with plans not to overclock
RAM: 8GB (4GBx2) 1600 MHz

+ Show Spoiler [General Information requested in the OP] +
Budget?
$900 +/-
Monitor?
1920 x 1080
Games?
Planetside 2 & potential future MMOs - decently high graphics
Beside gaming?
web browsing, word processing, etc.
Overclock?
not really, but if the capability is inexpensive I’d like to leave it open
SLI/Crossfire?
No plans for this as of yet
Operating system?
I have Win 7
Monitor, etc. at this point?
nothing additional needed
Brand preferences, requirements?
Not particularly
Country?
USA
Retailer Preferences?
Amazon/Newegg/Tigerdirect are convenient
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 05:37:25
December 28 2013 05:28 GMT
#3417
The newest NVIDIA card I've seen first hand is GTX 5xx series. Is it not possible anymore to tweak voltage?


On a bunch of cards, no. If you play with stuff like bios flashes it's a maybe depending on the model.

On my card, the extent of controls are: I can choose 1.2v or 1.212v, and i can add as much positive offset as i could want on core or memory, but i can only set my card to ~1150-1280mhz core, and i can only set memory to ~1700-1900mhz. I can't lower voltage, and i can't control clock speeds outside of that. There's no voltage control on the windforce 770, bios flash, afterburner hack or otherwise. GPU-boost also does whatever the hell it wants. You can change stuff lower or set your own clock speeds with custom bios, but not change the voltages on many cards, so you're voiding warranty and maybe losing idle power states in order to downclock and not really gain anything else, so it's not much use

Ichabod, looks ok. Your average load power would be well under 350w (probably high 200's with cpu and gpu at high load and random system stuff power), for planetside (and sc2 if you play) i'd definately throw the $75-$100 out for a ~1.3v overclock on i5 (if you'd have fun playing with it)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 28 2013 05:35 GMT
#3418
On December 28 2013 14:08 Ichabod wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I'm building a mid-range gaming computer for my brother and I am nearing the end of the planning phase. I would appreciate some critiquing on some of following choices, since it is my first build:

CPU: i5-4670K (not planning on overclocking atm, but I'll try to get the K if it's only $5-10 more)
GPU: PNY GTX 770 2GB (less expensive than 280X and a fair jump from the 270X and 760, so I figured it would be worth it)
PSU: Corsair CX500W[I projected my idle to be somewhere around 100W and load to be around 350W for the system.]
Mobo: ASUS B85-PLUS, consistent with plans not to overclock
RAM: 8GB (4GBx2) 1600 MHz

+ Show Spoiler [General Information requested in the OP] +
Budget?
$900 +/-
Monitor?
1920 x 1080
Games?
Planetside 2 & potential future MMOs - decently high graphics
Beside gaming?
web browsing, word processing, etc.
Overclock?
not really, but if the capability is inexpensive I’d like to leave it open
SLI/Crossfire?
No plans for this as of yet
Operating system?
I have Win 7
Monitor, etc. at this point?
nothing additional needed
Brand preferences, requirements?
Not particularly
Country?
USA
Retailer Preferences?
Amazon/Newegg/Tigerdirect are convenient


Rosewill Capstone 450 is better in every way than the Corsair CX500.

That B85 is open box fyi...

If you want to spend $10 more for a 4670k, you might as well spend ~$10 more for a Z87 board. You can't overclock without one and changing to a Z87 in the future is a stupid waste of money.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
December 28 2013 05:38 GMT
#3419
Rosewill Capstone 450 is better in every way than the Corsair CX500.


^This, i didn't realize that PSU was $70 (that's kinda silly)
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
TooL
Profile Joined April 2004
Canada275 Posts
December 28 2013 07:44 GMT
#3420
Sale on Zotac 780 OC @ NCIX CA. $429 after rebate.

http://products.ncix.com/detail/zotac-geforce-gtx-780-oc-941mhz-3gb-6-0ghz-gddr5-2xdvi-hdmi-displayport-pci-e-video-card-b7-92730-1051.htm

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