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When using this resource, please read the opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 07:57:21
December 28 2013 07:56 GMT
#3421
What does open box imply?

Edit: Yeah I don't like such an expensive B85 motherboard when you can get a Z87 instead! B85/H81 motherboards are good for their low cost and basic functionality.
maru lover forever
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 28 2013 08:06 GMT
#3422
Open box means someone returned it.
IAmThEnd
Profile Joined April 2013
United States111 Posts
December 28 2013 09:20 GMT
#3423
I plan on building a box strictly for Dota 2 using APU. I was wondering what is the cheapest option to get ~60fps on medium @ 1920x1080?
I am unimpressed. I am ungrateful. I am a leech, a parasite. I am a vampire.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
December 28 2013 09:27 GMT
#3424
When are you building? I'd probably just get a 6800k since it's not the easiest thing to run (6790k? there's a cheaper one that's like 100mhz lower stock cpu clock..) but Kaveri will be available in jan/feb
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 09:45:49
December 28 2013 09:34 GMT
#3425
I was thinking some AMD APU, something like A10-5800k. So I decided to look at benchmarks and saw that it couldn't even pull off 60 fps at medium settings, to get 60 you'd have to settle with low (at 1080p).

I think a cheaper processor with an actual GPU would out-perform the A10-5800k but I'm not completely sure what a good set up might be. It seems that it's possible to use this APU though.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1583/pg9/amd-a10-5800k-apu-performance-review-gaming-performance.html

http://www.dotatalk.com/amd-a10-5800k-trinity-black-edition-review/


Kaveri is coming out mid January, perhaps it's worth waiting for that.


@Skyr: ah


Edit: Not sure about 6800k, 5 minutes of google search seemed to indicate it was more expensive than the 5800k for minimal gains: http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=1169

To be perfectly frank though, I think a cheapass processor with a 7770 would be better overall.



Here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dota-2-performance-benchmark,3481-6.html

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dota-2-performance-benchmark,3481-8.html
maru lover forever
IAmThEnd
Profile Joined April 2013
United States111 Posts
December 28 2013 09:42 GMT
#3426
Alright thanks guys. Yea I tried researching a few of the Trinity lines but nothing too concrete. I'll read what the Kaveri's about.
;
I am unimpressed. I am ungrateful. I am a leech, a parasite. I am a vampire.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20345 Posts
December 28 2013 10:08 GMT
#3427
Kaveri has Steamroller modules instead of piledriver and GCN cores for the iGPU, it's expected to perform a chunk better on CPU front (2 module 4 thread, basically decent performing quad core) and maybe be at ~7750 level on the GPU front
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 28 2013 11:08 GMT
#3428
How much will it cost? It sounds nice enough for an APU. Sometimes I find that I have difficulty following/understanding the discussions on oc.net so.
maru lover forever
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 28 2013 11:12 GMT
#3429
A10 7700k and A10 7850k are both $160-$200.
mathoes
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia9 Posts
December 28 2013 12:57 GMT
#3430
sup guys, really appreciate what you guys do here and would love some more help!

What is your budget?
$500~1000


What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920x1080


What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
BF4 would be the most strenuous - medium to high

What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
browsing internet and general MS office work

Do you intend to overclock?
no


Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
no


Do you need an operating system?
no


Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
no


If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
no


What country will you be buying your parts in?
Australia

If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
www.pccasegear.com.au
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
December 28 2013 18:30 GMT
#3431
Thanks for the feedback, now just to figure out when to buy the components.

Looking back at previous deals makes it hard to pay full price.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
December 28 2013 19:10 GMT
#3432
I'm probably buying a new computer late last year and I'm wondering if intel has a new desktop PC architecture coming up. I haven't really been following the news. Anyone know what's up?
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
December 28 2013 19:56 GMT
#3433
On December 29 2013 04:10 Djzapz wrote:
I'm probably buying a new computer late last year and I'm wondering if intel has a new desktop PC architecture coming up. I haven't really been following the news. Anyone know what's up?

They spit out a new generation every single year like clockwork. The improvements are usually tiny. The price stays very similar. The previous generation does not drop in price except for clearing out stock.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
December 28 2013 20:12 GMT
#3434
On December 29 2013 04:56 Ropid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 04:10 Djzapz wrote:
I'm probably buying a new computer late last year and I'm wondering if intel has a new desktop PC architecture coming up. I haven't really been following the news. Anyone know what's up?

They spit out a new generation every single year like clockwork. The improvements are usually tiny. The price stays very similar. The previous generation does not drop in price except for clearing out stock.

Yeah, I'm familiar with the general trends. Was just wondering if they had something new for 2014. I don't expect a big jump in performance but I'll take whatever.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 28 2013 20:41 GMT
#3435
Just Haswell-E and a Haswell refresh.
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
December 28 2013 20:49 GMT
#3436
On December 29 2013 05:12 Djzapz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2013 04:56 Ropid wrote:
On December 29 2013 04:10 Djzapz wrote:
I'm probably buying a new computer late last year and I'm wondering if intel has a new desktop PC architecture coming up. I haven't really been following the news. Anyone know what's up?

They spit out a new generation every single year like clockwork. The improvements are usually tiny. The price stays very similar. The previous generation does not drop in price except for clearing out stock.

Yeah, I'm familiar with the general trends. Was just wondering if they had something new for 2014. I don't expect a big jump in performance but I'll take whatever.

Yeah, they will always have something new, no matter what. For 2014 in particular, they delayed what they originally wanted to have ready, but they'll still release a refresh of their current stuff with some sort of improvement. You'll find articles about this if you search for "2014 haswell refresh broadwell delay", but it's all without juicy details.
"My goal is to replace my soul with coffee and become immortal."
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
December 28 2013 20:59 GMT
#3437
Alright, thanks.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
December 28 2013 22:13 GMT
#3438
DDR4, that's where the shit is gonna be.
maru lover forever
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 22:47:18
December 28 2013 22:44 GMT
#3439
DDR4 isn't going to do shit for anybody with a dedicated graphics card. The difference between DDR3-1067 and DDR3-2666+ is like a few % in a few situations. The only memory tech I'm interested in is Maxwell (or is it the one after that) with it's stacked RAM...It's going to be batshit crazy if they pull it off because it's going to be 300x Memory Throughput on Graphics Cards (I believe 1TB/s).
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Leeoku
Profile Joined May 2010
1617 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-28 23:53:28
December 28 2013 23:52 GMT
#3440
holy crap that surprise sale went out fast. i just want a freakin 770
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