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840 EVO is better and most people will favour that but the difference isn't noticeable day to day unless you have both drives and comparing them side by side.
TigerDirect has the Seagate 600 for $110 I think if you pay with V.me.
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Much rather get an ASUS, MSI, or Gigabyte for the same before mail-in-rebate price.
My knowledge of specific specs is quite bad...
It looked like a good deal to me because the other 770s are running around 400.
330 is a standard price for that carD?!
EDIT: i think it's better for me to ask my question this way instead of posting 100 different cards for you guys:
If I want to run BF4 on high at 1920res what card do you recommend and how much should i expect to pay?
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On November 29 2013 19:30 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2013 17:11 Blackrobe wrote:On November 29 2013 15:56 Cyro wrote:Yep - i'd also get better RAM (there's better RAM available at the same price.. or just outright better RAM) but the 212 and PSU are obvious swap-outs. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231689^This kit is good I'd also wait for the aftermarket 780ti's if you want absolute power. Could step down to 780/290/290x, and to i5 also perhaps (though with such a powerful gpu.. i5 to i7 step seems inexpensive and maybe a little relevant) - what screen resolution is this for? You must remember that 780ti is bordering on as powerful as two 770's - it doesn't make sense to get one on a 1080p60hz screen. 120/144hz or 1440p+ I believe I should change the mobo out for something else... suggestions? z87x-d3h I currently have a Catleap 2B (which is not even being used as my PC is too weak) and a VG248QE at 120hz lightboost. How does this look? CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ NCIX US) CPU Cooler: Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($212.99 @ B&H) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card ($699.99 @ SuperBiiz) Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Black Pearl) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg) Total: $1667.92 Can't fault it that much (maybe a few small things), personally i'd look into compatibility and look into budgeting two or four 140mm fans for the h110: Option A; replace fans on it B: Add 2 new fans for push/pull C: Replace the 2 fans on it and also add 2 new ones Of course unneccesary, but four of your own fans might get you 5 degrees over the two stock ones if there are decent fans picked out. I don't know 140mm fans very well to recommend one blindly, though. Of course, if you just want a "meh" OC and not pushing it, maybe won't be at all relevant to even have awesome cooling, better is always nice though, and given the rest of the system i think it's worth it. Radiator fans are important for cooler performance, and will have different noise curves etc too. The other big thing is just the 780ti. I would consider it really really unfortunate to get the best GPU on the planet a week or two before aftermarket pcb's and coolers were released. Oh, and 840 evo is better than 840 regular/pro. You can get 840 evo pro's, but it's unneccesary unless you value write performance etc. Looking at the PSU too; 760w is a bit of a weird spot. I'd budget 300 or 350 watts for the 780ti if you want to push it reasonably hard and have plenty of room for peak power draw as well as be safe - 760w PSU is kind of overkill, yet not powerful enough to be suitable for SLI, considering the rest of the system power draw. The price of the PSU sticks out a lot to me, and you can maybe save some there. Show nested quote +I currently have a Catleap 2B (which is not even being used as my PC is too weak) and a VG248QE at 120hz lightboost.  Here's a 250gb ssd for $160 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147248capstone 750 for $100 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182073^Maybe PSU selected is better, but i don't have good enough PSU knowledge to get much better cost savings. If you wanna pay $30 more for the other unit it's probably fine. Capstone 650 not cheap enough to justify dropping to and it's not that bad to have 750/760w PSU as closer to 50% load gives better efficiency anyway
Thanks for the advice. <3
Two questions:
1) Where do you lie on the CF (2x) 290s vs 780 GTX Ti?
2) Is the difference in performance between the Samsung Pros and EVOs really that small?
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Honestly, I've heard some people say that the EVOs are better than the pros (or at least the software is. I don't think RAPID supports the Pros). In general though, I believe that the pros are slightly faster and last a lot longer.
Hopefully I'm not wrong. EVO is way more popular than Pro at least.
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Your average consumers buy the Pro variant not for its performance but due to ignorance, paranoia of TLC NAND, or for the two extra years of warranty. The Pro is better in performance but it's pretty negligible in day to day activities.
RAPID is coming "soon" to the Pro. Not sure if it's supported yet or not but doesn't really make a real world difference iirc.
EVO's are popular because they're much more affordable.
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On November 30 2013 06:23 McTeazy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Much rather get an ASUS, MSI, or Gigabyte for the same before mail-in-rebate price. My knowledge of specific specs is quite bad... It looked like a good deal to me because the other 770s are running around 400. 330 is a standard price for that carD?! EDIT: i think it's better for me to ask my question this way instead of posting 100 different cards for you guys: If I want to run BF4 on high at 1920res what card do you recommend and how much should i expect to pay?
Typical price is 340-350'ish I think.
Probably a R9 280x or GTX 770. Certain R9 280x also come with BF4 if you don't have it yet or didn't purchase it on Black Friday for like dirt cheap.
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On November 30 2013 06:53 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 06:23 McTeazy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Much rather get an ASUS, MSI, or Gigabyte for the same before mail-in-rebate price. My knowledge of specific specs is quite bad... It looked like a good deal to me because the other 770s are running around 400. 330 is a standard price for that carD?! EDIT: i think it's better for me to ask my question this way instead of posting 100 different cards for you guys: If I want to run BF4 on high at 1920res what card do you recommend and how much should i expect to pay? Typical price is 340-350'ish I think. Probably a R9 280x or GTX 770. Certain R9 280x also come with BF4 if you don't have it yet or didn't purchase it on Black Friday for like dirt cheap.
7970 is roughly equivalent to those too right? it looks like i can pick up a video card for 300 with sales this weekend which seems good to me
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Yes, the R9 280x is just a rebranded 7970 with some minor changes.
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On November 30 2013 02:33 Adrian_mx wrote:
does anyone know of a good gaming laptop for sale that is like 1200-1500$? for this weekend planning to buy one for cyber weekend
this
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On November 30 2013 06:30 Blackrobe wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2013 19:30 Cyro wrote:On November 29 2013 17:11 Blackrobe wrote:On November 29 2013 15:56 Cyro wrote:Yep - i'd also get better RAM (there's better RAM available at the same price.. or just outright better RAM) but the 212 and PSU are obvious swap-outs. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231689^This kit is good I'd also wait for the aftermarket 780ti's if you want absolute power. Could step down to 780/290/290x, and to i5 also perhaps (though with such a powerful gpu.. i5 to i7 step seems inexpensive and maybe a little relevant) - what screen resolution is this for? You must remember that 780ti is bordering on as powerful as two 770's - it doesn't make sense to get one on a 1080p60hz screen. 120/144hz or 1440p+ I believe I should change the mobo out for something else... suggestions? z87x-d3h I currently have a Catleap 2B (which is not even being used as my PC is too weak) and a VG248QE at 120hz lightboost. How does this look? CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ NCIX US) CPU Cooler: Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($212.99 @ B&H) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card ($699.99 @ SuperBiiz) Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Black Pearl) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg) Total: $1667.92 Can't fault it that much (maybe a few small things), personally i'd look into compatibility and look into budgeting two or four 140mm fans for the h110: Option A; replace fans on it B: Add 2 new fans for push/pull C: Replace the 2 fans on it and also add 2 new ones Of course unneccesary, but four of your own fans might get you 5 degrees over the two stock ones if there are decent fans picked out. I don't know 140mm fans very well to recommend one blindly, though. Of course, if you just want a "meh" OC and not pushing it, maybe won't be at all relevant to even have awesome cooling, better is always nice though, and given the rest of the system i think it's worth it. Radiator fans are important for cooler performance, and will have different noise curves etc too. The other big thing is just the 780ti. I would consider it really really unfortunate to get the best GPU on the planet a week or two before aftermarket pcb's and coolers were released. Oh, and 840 evo is better than 840 regular/pro. You can get 840 evo pro's, but it's unneccesary unless you value write performance etc. Looking at the PSU too; 760w is a bit of a weird spot. I'd budget 300 or 350 watts for the 780ti if you want to push it reasonably hard and have plenty of room for peak power draw as well as be safe - 760w PSU is kind of overkill, yet not powerful enough to be suitable for SLI, considering the rest of the system power draw. The price of the PSU sticks out a lot to me, and you can maybe save some there. I currently have a Catleap 2B (which is not even being used as my PC is too weak) and a VG248QE at 120hz lightboost. Here's a 250gb ssd for $160 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147248capstone 750 for $100 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182073^Maybe PSU selected is better, but i don't have good enough PSU knowledge to get much better cost savings. If you wanna pay $30 more for the other unit it's probably fine. Capstone 650 not cheap enough to justify dropping to and it's not that bad to have 750/760w PSU as closer to 50% load gives better efficiency anyway Thanks for the advice. <3 Two questions: 1) Where do you lie on the CF (2x) 290s vs 780 GTX Ti? 2) Is the difference in performance between the Samsung Pros and EVOs really that small?
The 780ti's are obviously better (oops you said cf, but 780ti's are better 1v1), but also more expensive. I'd consider a pair of 290's if i could replace the coolers cheaply and i was willing to do so, and wanted more performance than a single 290-780ti GPU, the easier option is a couple of 780's on air though if you can get nonreference cooled for not too too much more expensive than 290's. There's no way i'd crossfire reference cooled 290's (you just have to keep the fans up way too high to maintain full performance on both gpu's)
nonreference 290's are a couple weeks out, nonreference 780ti's probably that too
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On November 30 2013 08:24 Adrian_mx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 02:33 Adrian_mx wrote:
does anyone know of a good gaming laptop for sale that is like 1200-1500$? for this weekend planning to buy one for cyber weekend this
gaming laptops cost a lot more compared to desktops for their performance, but if you really want laptop, look at ASUS's stuff
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On November 30 2013 17:00 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 08:24 Adrian_mx wrote:On November 30 2013 02:33 Adrian_mx wrote:
does anyone know of a good gaming laptop for sale that is like 1200-1500$? for this weekend planning to buy one for cyber weekend this gaming laptops cost a lot more compared to desktops for their performance, but if you really want laptop, look at ASUS's stuff
Lenovo also had some pretty good deals on their Y-series gaming laptops as well.
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What is your budget?
Around $1000 CAD but the cheaper the better
What is your monitor's native resolution?
1920 x 1200
What games do you intend to play on this computer? What settings?
Lol, SC2, GTA series, Batman: Arkham City
What do you intend to use the computer for besides gaming?
Streaming for friends, watching videos
Do you intend to overclock?
no
Do you intend to do SLI / Crossfire?
Yes or something with 2 outputs for multiple monitors
Do you need an operating system?
Yes
Do you need a monitor or any other peripherals and is this part of your budget?
No
If you have any requirements or brand preferences, please specify.
No
What country will you be buying your parts in?
Canada
If you have any retailer preferences, please specify.
www.newegg.ca
Current comp is about 6 years old and can't play SC2 at all without lagging
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On November 30 2013 14:01 Cyro wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 06:30 Blackrobe wrote:On November 29 2013 19:30 Cyro wrote:On November 29 2013 17:11 Blackrobe wrote:On November 29 2013 15:56 Cyro wrote:Yep - i'd also get better RAM (there's better RAM available at the same price.. or just outright better RAM) but the 212 and PSU are obvious swap-outs. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231689^This kit is good I'd also wait for the aftermarket 780ti's if you want absolute power. Could step down to 780/290/290x, and to i5 also perhaps (though with such a powerful gpu.. i5 to i7 step seems inexpensive and maybe a little relevant) - what screen resolution is this for? You must remember that 780ti is bordering on as powerful as two 770's - it doesn't make sense to get one on a 1080p60hz screen. 120/144hz or 1440p+ I believe I should change the mobo out for something else... suggestions? z87x-d3h I currently have a Catleap 2B (which is not even being used as my PC is too weak) and a VG248QE at 120hz lightboost. How does this look? CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.99 @ NCIX US) CPU Cooler: Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Newegg) Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-D3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg) Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($212.99 @ B&H) Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card ($699.99 @ SuperBiiz) Case: Fractal Design Define XL R2 (Black Pearl) ATX Full Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg) Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg) Total: $1667.92 Can't fault it that much (maybe a few small things), personally i'd look into compatibility and look into budgeting two or four 140mm fans for the h110: Option A; replace fans on it B: Add 2 new fans for push/pull C: Replace the 2 fans on it and also add 2 new ones Of course unneccesary, but four of your own fans might get you 5 degrees over the two stock ones if there are decent fans picked out. I don't know 140mm fans very well to recommend one blindly, though. Of course, if you just want a "meh" OC and not pushing it, maybe won't be at all relevant to even have awesome cooling, better is always nice though, and given the rest of the system i think it's worth it. Radiator fans are important for cooler performance, and will have different noise curves etc too. The other big thing is just the 780ti. I would consider it really really unfortunate to get the best GPU on the planet a week or two before aftermarket pcb's and coolers were released. Oh, and 840 evo is better than 840 regular/pro. You can get 840 evo pro's, but it's unneccesary unless you value write performance etc. Looking at the PSU too; 760w is a bit of a weird spot. I'd budget 300 or 350 watts for the 780ti if you want to push it reasonably hard and have plenty of room for peak power draw as well as be safe - 760w PSU is kind of overkill, yet not powerful enough to be suitable for SLI, considering the rest of the system power draw. The price of the PSU sticks out a lot to me, and you can maybe save some there. I currently have a Catleap 2B (which is not even being used as my PC is too weak) and a VG248QE at 120hz lightboost. Here's a 250gb ssd for $160 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147248capstone 750 for $100 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182073^Maybe PSU selected is better, but i don't have good enough PSU knowledge to get much better cost savings. If you wanna pay $30 more for the other unit it's probably fine. Capstone 650 not cheap enough to justify dropping to and it's not that bad to have 750/760w PSU as closer to 50% load gives better efficiency anyway Thanks for the advice. <3 Two questions: 1) Where do you lie on the CF (2x) 290s vs 780 GTX Ti? 2) Is the difference in performance between the Samsung Pros and EVOs really that small? The 780ti's are obviously better (oops you said cf, but 780ti's are better 1v1), but also more expensive. I'd consider a pair of 290's if i could replace the coolers cheaply and i was willing to do so, and wanted more performance than a single 290-780ti GPU, the easier option is a couple of 780's on air though if you can get nonreference cooled for not too too much more expensive than 290's. There's no way i'd crossfire reference cooled 290's (you just have to keep the fans up way too high to maintain full performance on both gpu's) nonreference 290's are a couple weeks out, nonreference 780ti's probably that too
Sounds good.
I probably buy everything but the GPU tomorrow and just stick my old PCI 2.0 GPU in the PC until those come out.
Thanks again. <3
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What is your current build?
Processor: Intel i5 2500K @ 4GHz
Cooling: Coolermaster TX3 Super CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA Z68A-D3-B3
RAM: 8GB DDR3
Graphics: Gainward GTX 570 1.2GB
Storage: 1TB Western Digital
Power Supply: 750W (not sure on the model, might be generic)
Case: Something generic, dimensions are roughly 42x46x18cm (height x depth x width looking from the front)
Monitor: Dell U2713HM
What is your monitor's native resolution?
2560x1440
Why do you want to upgrade? What do you want to achieve with the upgrade?
I'm considering upgrading my graphics card. Since I've upgraded to a 2560x1440 screen, I've been finding my graphics card has been under-performing in some more recent titles (Bioshock Infinite, Total War: Rome 2). I suspect my lack of VRAM is hurting at this resolution. That, and the graphics card is now over 2 years old. With the upgrade, I'm hoping to be able to max-out or almost max-out all modern titles. I tend to use little to no anti-aliasing (at 2560x1440 it doesn't feel very necessary).
What is your budget?
This is where I'm not sure. I was thinking of making this upgrade a partial Christmas present, where I'll pay a portion of the card's cost. I'd imagine all up I'd have ~AU$600 to throw around. However, if throwing in an extra $100 would net me a card that would perform significantly better or remain a strong performer for much longer, I'd be willing to take the financial hit.
What country will you be buying your parts in?
Australia
Here are some common Australian retailers:
Mwave (I can pick up from these guys, saving me on shipping)
PC Case Gear
Mega Buy
If you have any brand or retailer preferences, please specify.
I've really enjoyed using the Nvidia card I have right now, so I feel a small amount of loyalty towards them. And like everyone else, I've heard the internet's vocal minority moan about AMD's crappy drivers and other issues, although I don't know how much merit those complaints have. After all, there are endless threads documenting all the issues the U2713HM monitor has, but the one I bought was fault-free and I've been extremely happy with my purchase.
So I guess I'm saying that while I've had a good experience with Nvidia, I'm willing to jump ship if that I'll get a better experience or more performance for my money.
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You should look at GTX 770, 780 and 780 TI.
You can expect the current generation of cards to run your new screen like your old card worked on your old screen. I guess a GTX 770 will run on the new screen like your GTX 570 ran on your old screen.
If you came from a 1080p screen, the calculations about the amount of pixels compared to your new screen looks like this:
1920*1080
= 2073600
2560*1440
= 3686400
So the amount of pixels is close to doubled with the new screen.
From what I understood, it seems in benchmarks, if you go from a GTX 4xx to a GTX 7xx, this ends up being very close to doubled performance. But you have a GTX 570, not 470. For you, I'd guess a GTX 780 would be double of what you have currently.
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Just bought this system. I truly think it was well worth it and will serve me well, just want some opinions:
CPU: Intel i5-4570
GPU: Nvidia GTX-680
RAM: 8 GB
1 TB Western Digital HDD
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On November 30 2013 22:23 Bleak wrote:
Just bought this system. I truly think it was well worth it and will serve me well, just want some opinions:
CPU: Intel i5-4570
GPU: Nvidia GTX-680
RAM: 8 GB
1 TB Western Digital HDD
Price/context is everything.
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Hawk. Highest base clocks and i've seen people vouching for them as well as numerous shots of them clocked in the 1300's
http://i.imgur.com/dGKgTJo.jpg Not sure if that should be taken as ~1333 or ~1407. Unigine engine is incredibly dumb with clockspeeds and you can often be running heaven or valley at 1300mhz when everything else reads 1200 (yet you know it's 1300mhz because hey, it's literally a GPU benchmark) while at other times, it's just a plain wrong reading
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