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phoenixfeather95
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
665 Posts
September 11 2012 14:18 GMT
#1
Hey guys,

As the title says, I'm looking for a laptop that can play SC2 (+ HoTS) on medium. It doesn't have to be high-end and my budget is around $800 - $1200 before shipping. I was hoping sites like eBay would sell cheaper ones (even with shipping) compared to buying it here (Qatar, Middle East).

Do you guys have any recommendations? I've checked out the laptop threads but most recommend ones from newegg and they don't ship internationally.

Thanks.
@dbrisingr
YouthSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom355 Posts
September 11 2012 15:18 GMT
#2
Its pretty complicated to ship internationally since you usually have to pay to transport electronic goods to countries you don't share trading rights with. Probably laptops are that expensive in your country because companies have to pay to bring them there, not just because.
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phoenixfeather95
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
665 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 18:50:24
September 11 2012 18:25 GMT
#3
I've narrowed it down to two:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Edge-E530-325978U-i7-3720QM-2-60-3-60GHz-8GB-320GB-Blu-Ray-/370638551813?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item564bc77b05

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-N56VZ-DS71-15-6-Core-i7-3610QM-8GB-DDR3-NVIDIA-GT-650M-B-O-Audio-BT-LAPTOP-/160828898865?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item2572263e31

Which one do you guys think is better?
@dbrisingr
EnE
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
417 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 19:02:41
September 11 2012 19:02 GMT
#4
The second one, it has a graphics card.

If you plan to game, this is ALL IMPORTANT, a 650M will run most modern games fine, onboard graphics will run very little on decent settings.
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phoenixfeather95
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
665 Posts
September 11 2012 19:11 GMT
#5
Hmm,
Like I said I just want Medium Quality with no lag, is the 650M way faster / better?
Isn't the HD Graphics 4000 enough just for Medium?
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bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
September 11 2012 20:12 GMT
#6
On September 12 2012 04:11 phoenixfeather95 wrote:
Hmm,
Like I said I just want Medium Quality with no lag, is the 650M way faster / better?
Isn't the HD Graphics 4000 enough just for Medium?
It's not even a contest.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-650M.71887.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-4000.69168.0.html

The 4000 is better than previous Intel integrated "graphics", but that's not saying much. As that page says, it will only do low, and the 650M's benchmarks are about 4 times as good.
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Paradise`
Profile Joined January 2012
United States201 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-11 22:14:16
September 11 2012 20:26 GMT
#7
My Macbook Air ran medium on HD 3000 lol.. I'm sure the 4000 would be able to run it pretty easy,

Get the ASUS though
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
September 11 2012 20:43 GMT
#8
On September 12 2012 05:26 Paradise` wrote:
My Macbook Air ran medium on HD 3000 lol.. I'm sure the 4000 would be able to run it pretty easy,

If this is true either you were playing at ~15 fps or performing a minor miracle.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-HD-Graphics-3000.37948.0.html

I'm sure you can find something with dedicated graphics for cheaper than $1200, though, although I'm not really sure what sites ship internationally...
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Paradise`
Profile Joined January 2012
United States201 Posts
September 11 2012 21:45 GMT
#9
I never checked the fps but it was never laggy (only played 1s')
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
September 11 2012 21:47 GMT
#10
Never, ever, ever get integrated graphics for a gaming computer.
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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
September 11 2012 22:17 GMT
#11
On September 12 2012 06:47 iGrok wrote:
Never, ever, ever get integrated graphics for a gaming computer.


Do you really have a choice with i5/i7 CPUs? They come with that integrated bullshit. t.t
bduddy
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1326 Posts
September 11 2012 23:57 GMT
#12
On September 12 2012 07:17 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 06:47 iGrok wrote:
Never, ever, ever get integrated graphics for a gaming computer.


Do you really have a choice with i5/i7 CPUs? They come with that integrated bullshit. t.t
There are plenty of i5/i7's that also come with dedicated graphics - I have one myself. In fact, some will come with both (integrated and dedicated), which is actually better - when you're not gaming and not plugged in you can use the integrated graphics and improve your battery life (because otherwise most "gaming" laptops have terrible battery life).
>Liquid'Nazgul: Of course you are completely right
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
September 12 2012 00:03 GMT
#13
idk about international shipping, but playing sc2 on med on 15 inch (13x7 res) with maybe 30 fps in lategame battles isn't very hard, you could do that with a 400-500$ laptop (though, that would be considered a "good" deal, not as in a rare outstanding deal, but one that you should be able to find with a few hours of searching/research)
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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 00:15:05
September 12 2012 00:14 GMT
#14
On September 12 2012 08:57 bduddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 07:17 darkness wrote:
On September 12 2012 06:47 iGrok wrote:
Never, ever, ever get integrated graphics for a gaming computer.


Do you really have a choice with i5/i7 CPUs? They come with that integrated bullshit. t.t
There are plenty of i5/i7's that also come with dedicated graphics - I have one myself. In fact, some will come with both (integrated and dedicated), which is actually better - when you're not gaming and not plugged in you can use the integrated graphics and improve your battery life (because otherwise most "gaming" laptops have terrible battery life).


You're right. Just found an i7 CPU without integrated graphics: http://ark.intel.com/products/37151/Intel-Core-i7-960-Processor-(8M-Cache-3_20-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI)

On topic regarding a gaming laptop, has anyone tried "the first true gaming laptop"? http://www.razerzone.com/store/choose/razer-blade Thoughts?
Paradise`
Profile Joined January 2012
United States201 Posts
September 12 2012 00:57 GMT
#15
Way too overpriced
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 02:33:09
September 12 2012 02:31 GMT
#16
On September 12 2012 09:14 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 08:57 bduddy wrote:
On September 12 2012 07:17 darkness wrote:
On September 12 2012 06:47 iGrok wrote:
Never, ever, ever get integrated graphics for a gaming computer.


Do you really have a choice with i5/i7 CPUs? They come with that integrated bullshit. t.t
There are plenty of i5/i7's that also come with dedicated graphics - I have one myself. In fact, some will come with both (integrated and dedicated), which is actually better - when you're not gaming and not plugged in you can use the integrated graphics and improve your battery life (because otherwise most "gaming" laptops have terrible battery life).


You're right. Just found an i7 CPU without integrated graphics: http://ark.intel.com/products/37151/Intel-Core-i7-960-Processor-(8M-Cache-3_20-GHz-4_80-GTs-Intel-QPI)

On topic regarding a gaming laptop, has anyone tried "the first true gaming laptop"? http://www.razerzone.com/store/choose/razer-blade Thoughts?

If a laptop comes with a dedicated graphics card, it will use that over the integrated graphics by default, or use a switching technology (optimus/enduro) to save power by using integrated when you're just browsing the web and such. HD 4000 is not remotely playable (50+ fps) on medium, the difference from medium to low in terms of graphics requirements is huge. What do you need a quad core for anyway, are you encoding? An i5-3xxxM will offer identical performance for starcraft 2.

EDIT: The only reason those i7's don't have an iGPU is because it was faulty, so they just laser cut the connections, it's still physically there.
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EnE
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
417 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 04:47:09
September 12 2012 04:46 GMT
#17
On September 12 2012 04:11 phoenixfeather95 wrote:
Hmm,
Like I said I just want Medium Quality with no lag, is the 650M way faster / better?
Isn't the HD Graphics 4000 enough just for Medium?


Yep. The second laptop you posted isn't cheap at all for what it is but at the end of the day don't dream of getting a laptop with the intent of gaming and skipping a graphics card, because that's crazy. Integrated graphics are not made for running modern games and will bottleneck it's i7 to an absolutely ludicrous level.

The 650m is a decent card, the i7on that laptop is a good procesor, overall it's not the cheapest ever but if you choose that laptop, it will run all your games.
I'm embarrased by my past actions and even more ashamed of my present thoughts and future endeavors to clear my name.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
September 12 2012 05:32 GMT
#18
For just SC2 on med-low, the HD 4000 laptop would probably be fine. But at some point you may want to play a game other than SC2 on the laptop. Then the HD 4000 will not be good enough.
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EnE
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
417 Posts
September 12 2012 09:11 GMT
#19
On September 12 2012 14:32 MisterFred wrote:
For just SC2 on med-low, the HD 4000 laptop would probably be fine. But at some point you may want to play a game other than SC2 on the laptop. Then the HD 4000 will not be good enough.


Yeah and performance was already lowered with patch 1.5, so, you're at a risk of not being able to maintain good fps at all times even on lowest settings, in the future especially and I'm sure he'll want to do another game or something in the future.
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phoenixfeather95
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
665 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 13:53:56
September 12 2012 13:41 GMT
#20
Point taken guys, thanks!

After further research,I've decided to pick this one (quite a bit more expensive though):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-B53S-XB71-15-6-Matte-Core-i7-2-8GHz-4GB-Win-7-Professional-3-Year-Warranty-/160860774821?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid=111000&algo=REC.CURRENT&ao=1&asc=14&meid=1971206549941712924&pid=100015&prg=1006&rk=1&

=)
@dbrisingr
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 15:31:38
September 12 2012 15:25 GMT
#21
On September 12 2012 22:41 phoenixfeather95 wrote:
Point taken guys, thanks!

After further research,I've decided to pick this one (quite a bit more expensive though):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-B53S-XB71-15-6-Matte-Core-i7-2-8GHz-4GB-Win-7-Professional-3-Year-Warranty-/160860774821?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid=111000&algo=REC.CURRENT&ao=1&asc=14&meid=1971206549941712924&pid=100015&prg=1006&rk=1&

=)


dunno if you already know that, but make sure to use Windows 7 64 bit version. I had some headaches using 32 bit on my PC (~3.30GB out of 4GB RAM) and laptop (~2.30 GB RAM out of 4 GB). I use my full RAM now. ^^

Edit: nevermind, you're already granted Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit
EnE
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
417 Posts
September 12 2012 17:38 GMT
#22
On September 13 2012 00:25 darkness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2012 22:41 phoenixfeather95 wrote:
Point taken guys, thanks!

After further research,I've decided to pick this one (quite a bit more expensive though):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-B53S-XB71-15-6-Matte-Core-i7-2-8GHz-4GB-Win-7-Professional-3-Year-Warranty-/160860774821?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid=111000&algo=REC.CURRENT&ao=1&asc=14&meid=1971206549941712924&pid=100015&prg=1006&rk=1&

=)


dunno if you already know that, but make sure to use Windows 7 64 bit version. I had some headaches using 32 bit on my PC (~3.30GB out of 4GB RAM) and laptop (~2.30 GB RAM out of 4 GB). I use my full RAM now. ^^

Edit: nevermind, you're already granted Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit


Also, pretty worried about that PC being only a 2.8 ghz and it doesn't specify that it has turbo to 3.6 like the other one, should be fine for 1v1, but if he really likes team games then that's worth noting
I'm embarrased by my past actions and even more ashamed of my present thoughts and future endeavors to clear my name.
phoenixfeather95
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
665 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-12 17:57:35
September 12 2012 17:56 GMT
#23
omg sorry wrong link,
it's this one.
Very pricey, but worth it judging from all the reviews / comparisons.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-G55VW-ES71-2-30-3-30GHz-i7-3610QM-16GB-500GB-7200rpm-2GB-NVIDIA-GTX-660M-BD-/290743463392?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item43b1a92de0

Although the 16GB may be overkill for Memory.
@dbrisingr
Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
September 12 2012 19:36 GMT
#24
G55VW is a really good model, just bear in mind it’s quite heavy and big. I’m not sure but you might be forgetting the import tax and such.
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SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
September 12 2012 20:24 GMT
#25
As a military member let me warn you about Qutar. Fragile handle with care means nothing to them.
After a 6 month deployment to Al-Udeid and Khandahar the onlything I risked haveing shipped to me was Food items.

Be safe over there if ur military.
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Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
September 13 2012 01:09 GMT
#26
Couriers around the world don't know what that means. I've seen rackmount hardware get bent into a U shape by guys like DHL.

Its up to the seller to make sure the package is packed properly.
phoenixfeather95
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
665 Posts
September 13 2012 10:58 GMT
#27
wow, scary horror stories...
No i'm not in the military, i'm a student here. i've shipped small items here with no problems (mobile phones etc.)
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