EPTI would recommend if you don't want to invest more than 200$ on your headphones.
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
I would recommend if you don't want to invest more than 200$ on your headphones. | ||
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MiyaviTeddy
Canada697 Posts
On December 30 2013 20:55 S3ph wrote: I really appreciate your answer, Myrmidon. I will test this headset thoroughly. If there will be something I wont like, I have 2 weeks time to send it back. The Sennheiser you mentioned is really good. I might give it a try, if the qpad is weak. I have the PC350 and let me make light of something: The bass is weak. Not because of the speakers or the quality, its because of the design (the actual build) of the headset if that make sense. In other words, if you feel like you want to increase the bass of the headset, there is something you can do to bump it up: Pop the ear pads off, unscrew the pad off and drill 1 or two holes. I was incredibly happy with the results. I don't know where I drilled my holes but I can always find out for you. | ||
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smOOthMayDie
United States997 Posts
Also interested in purchasing a headset with a microphone, but I don't want something bad. Any suggestions on that? Astros/plantronics commandos look decent, but I'd like to be educated on the matter. The reason I want this is because I would prefer to use headphones with a microphone instead of headphones + stand a lone microphone for ease of use. | ||
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xaoteca
Czech Republic34 Posts
On January 04 2014 09:11 smOOthMayDie wrote: Currently own a pair of Sennheiser Momentum (Not the on-ear.) that I bought at a highly discounted price through my job. Paid 100$ when their retail price was 350$. Wondering if these are good headphones? Also interested in purchasing a headset with a microphone, but I don't want something bad. Any suggestions on that? Astros/plantronics commandos look decent, but I'd like to be educated on the matter. The reason I want this is because I would prefer to use headphones with a microphone instead of headphones + stand a lone microphone for ease of use. I own the Sennheiser PC 360 and they are amazing. Really comfortable, even for many hours of use. I think they have pretty good sound but its my only open headset so I can't really compare it to anything. The mic quality is decent as well, no one ever complained on it. Also, Khaldor uses them so you can watch his stream sometime and see for yourself how the mic sounds. | ||
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Harajuku
150 Posts
They arrived today and to my dismay they sound terrible for some reason, the sound is really flat and, well, really crappy. I have to crank the volume all the way up to get the same volume as I had on my old headphones at a third of max volume. I don't have a sound card, but regular modern onboard sound with realtek drivers. Am I doing something wrong? Am I forgetting something? Do you need some kind of device or software for these kind of headphones to work properly? Thanks in advance for any tips. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
It's normal for different headphones to require vastly different volume settings for equivalent sound pressure levels so volume at your ear because of significantly different impedance and sensitivity. Some pretty much won't get loud enough without a more dedicated high-output headphone amplifier. There's also some variation from unit to unit of the same model and/or revisions over time. However, Porta Pros should only be a few dB louder than HD 558s. OS scaling on volume is somewhat of a mystery: at "a third" it's probably not at a third of the power level, a third of the signal level, or a third of the perceived volume. To be more specific, you could check levels with a multimeter or just go by ear and cite approximate dB (use a software player like foobar2000 that has a volume control listed in dB and use that). However, something seems off if the volume setting needs to be that different. It's common for people to be used to the sound of an old headphone and initially reject a new purchase as sounding odd. Over time it might sound better. However, HD 558 doesn't have all that much of a drastically different sound than the Porta Pros at all, so this seems odd. And the difference is in having more treble (closer to what you're supposed to have, so "flat" as in flat response maybe), which may or may not correspond to what you might call "flat." The symptoms sound most like what happens if the jack is half-broken or not inserted all the way, to be honest... I would try both sets on another device or two, such as another computer, phone, MP3 player, etc. See if you get similar sound and a similar difference in volume across these sources. | ||
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Harajuku
150 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
You probably want something like this anyway where there is a short cable connecting the two parts: http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOSA-MHE-100-5-1-4-TRS-Female-To-1-8-TRS-Right-Angled-Male-6-Long-/221349878193 I think Sennheiser even sells one. | ||
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Harajuku
150 Posts
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Harajuku
150 Posts
Also, should I maybe buy a soundcard and see if that helps? Kind of salty about having spent 130€ on an essentially worse experience, so I'd like to salvage the purchase somehow if possible. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Again, what's the approximate volume difference between the two in dB? Do you have a multimeter with which to test a few things? | ||
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z0rz
United States350 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On January 10 2014 07:24 z0rz wrote: I'll be honest, I don't know how much other factors affect output volume/velocity, but the HD 558s actually have lower impedance than PortaPros (50 Ohm vs 60 Ohm, respectively) and they're both open headphones. Shouldn't the 558s actually be slightly louder at the same volume? They should at least be pretty similar in volume, I'd imagine. Nah, two headphones with same impedance can have very different volumes. Mainly you look at the sensitivity and impedance. The former is usually listed in terms of dB SPL (decibels of sound pressure level referenced to a pressure level of 20 micropascals, the threshold of human hearing) per 1 mW input power. Sometimes the figure with 1 V input signal level is given (and sometimes 0.1 V for some IEMs), but you can convert between these knowing the impedance. Impedance is usually given at 1 kHz; it actually varies over frequency and non-trivially in some sets. However, there is some unit-to-unit variance and difference between measuring methods between manufacturers, so even if you expected the same volume out of two sets based on specs, I wouldn't be totally shocked if they measured say even as much as 5-10 dB apart. Koss PortaPro: 60 ohms, 101 dB SPL / 1 mW nominal Sennhesier HD 558: 50 ohms, 112 dB SPL / 1 V nominal Note that with 1 V input, roughly (headphones aren't completely resistive and we're talking power, etc.) that would be a power level of 20 mW (P = V^2/R; power is voltage squared divided by resistance). And 10log10(20) = 13, so we're looking at 112 - 13 = 99 dB SPL / 1 mW for the Sennheisers. Or with the PortaPro, 1 V input would give 16.67 mW of power so 113.2 dB SPL. In other words, they should be within a couple of dB, supposedly. | ||
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z0rz
United States350 Posts
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Harajuku
150 Posts
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
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iSometric
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smOOthMayDie
United States997 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MvcHCVG.jpg) Save my review for later, but these sound pretty good. | ||
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[MD]Frostbite
Canada292 Posts
Very disappointing, but apart from that the headphones work great, still disappointed in the faulty nature of the second wire.  | ||
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z0rz
United States350 Posts
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