EPTIf the panels aren't good for OCing then you'll have to assume 60hz from it. Also bear in mind that there will be various problems with these panels like dead pixels, backlight bleed, etc, since they failed QC. If you want 1080p though there's no point in going for something like this, since there are great 144hz 1080p panels
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Blazinghand
United States25551 Posts
If the panels aren't good for OCing then you'll have to assume 60hz from it. Also bear in mind that there will be various problems with these panels like dead pixels, backlight bleed, etc, since they failed QC. If you want 1080p though there's no point in going for something like this, since there are great 144hz 1080p panels | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
You can also get pixel perfect variants for about 50 more than default Any that advertise "120hz" will almost always get at least 96 without any problems and often 120 | ||
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Blisse
Canada3710 Posts
Image quality in games is stunning though at 4K | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
graphically intensive games.. not so sufficient, but usable. Driver rant: + Show Spoiler + I would say 290 too, but nobody on the planet should use a radeon GPU with any blizzard games until they fix their drivers, this is unexcusable in so heavily CPU bound games ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/nuYdamv.png) Wildstar shows this problem (WAY higher FPS, ~1.5x stronger on Nvidia when CPU bound), WoW shows it, every frostbite engine game shows it (but they have mantle, which means that performance isn't terrible), Planetside 2 shows it - there are probably more, just not documented or known to me. Can't believe the red team guys let themselves get fucked like this compared to competition for 8 whole months, come on guys, make a storm! Why wait for dx12? ![[image loading]](http://cdn.overclock.net/f/f2/f2b0a642_i7_bf4_1280.png) | ||
peanuts
United States1225 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20285 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On December 04 2014 13:01 peanuts wrote: Hey, it's been ages since I've bought a monitor, figured I'd check here. Looking for something relatively cheap (~$200) to use for Xbox One. Looking for good contrast, well defined blacks and hella low latency. Suggested models/brands? I would say the BenQ GW2760HS, a 27" 1080p AMVA model. Here available for $190: http://www.ncixus.com/products/?sku=95041&vpn=GW2760HS&promoid=1411 Review: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/benq_gw2760hs.htm For gaming, I'd say a larger size is appropriate, even at reduced pixel density. It's got deeper blacks so better contrast than competing LCD panel technologies, no IPS glow to ruin those dark scenes, and much less picture quality degradation due to viewing angles than TN monitors. Although the pixel response time isn't great and is the biggest weakness, many Xbox One games are running 30 fps anyway, so it's pretty much irrelevant. The blurriness and general lack of motion clarity from 30 fps rendering will mask the moderate response time of the actual pixels. And it's at a level better than older VA models, anyhow. Despite this, the overall latency is low, considering the processing delay is minimal. edit: if you're planning on using it in the dark, the minimum brightness is a little bit high. With dim room lighting or even just bias lighting, never mind normal lights, it probably should be fine. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
€200 + €30-50 of import costs for 1440p PLS panel which may clock past 96 Hz, up to 120 Hz. Kind of interesting. At that price point it's in direct competition with a 1080p144 Hz TN panel such as BenQ's XL2411Z. http://www.ebay.fr/itm/QNIX-QX2710-LED-Evolution-ll-Matte-Off-grade-27-2560x1440-PLS-Panel-PC-Monitor-/131353061250?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_Monitors&hash=item1e9540a782 I've been discussing in a thread with a few other people at oc.net and then read the dedicated thread about the Korean panels. It also seems that most people who get such a monitor always seem really happy with them, barring a few back light bleeding issues or panels which won't go overclock to 120 Hz. A vast majority of panels seem to be fine in terms of dead pixel problems. The stand is terrible though, I've also heard that these monitors have some noticeable motion blur and stuff like input lag (i.e. stuff that cyro wouldn't like!). http://www.overclock.net/t/1384767/official-the-qnix-x-star-1440p-monitor-club I think these panels might be interesting for those who don't play twitch shooters competitively (I think that the faster TN panels would be the best in that regard), I don't think RTS games or MOBAs would play badly on these either. Obviously for eye-candy and stuff the larger panels are also interesting. Thoughts? | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
There is a breakdown of some models somewhere on oc.net but on the new generation ones no longer have the backlighting or input lag issues, the threat of having dead pixels is obviously a constant concern but there is usually the option to get a perfect pixel one for ~$50 more. Overall I'd wholeheartedly recommend the qx/dp2710 2 or whatever xstar calls them if you're more of an all rounder with your desktop usage as opposed to fixated on getting marginally more performance on a few extremely competitive games in which the additional features shine. | ||
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zhengz
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
The other distinguishing feature between the two is that the P2314H uses a matte coating, while the H236HL is glossy. The P2314H's matte coating is not as heavy as on many older IPS panels, which some users complained looked to sparkly, dirty, or grainy when displaying light content. It should exhibit these undesirable traits, just to a much smaller extent, while reducing the glare from any other light source. The glossy H236HL will be a mess reflecting light from everything else, but the advantage is that the clarity and pop may be better, at least if you're in viewing conditions where the reflections aren't killing the image. | ||
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zhengz
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On December 09 2014 01:27 Myrmidon wrote: Absolutely the P2314H over the H236HL unless you only look at static images. The Acer models tend to have gross pixel overshoot problems for anything changing color (read: non-static images of any kind, even scrolling a webpage). The P2314H also has the much more adjustable stand and VESA mount, and it has DC controlled backlighting, which is better for a few reasons. The other distinguishing feature between the two is that the P2314H uses a matte coating, while the H236HL is glossy. The P2314H's matte coating is not as heavy as on many older IPS panels, which some users complained looked to sparkly, dirty, or grainy when displaying light content. It should exhibit these undesirable traits, just to a much smaller extent, while reducing the glare from any other light source. The glossy H236HL will be a mess reflecting light from everything else, but the advantage is that the clarity and pop may be better, at least if you're in viewing conditions where the reflections aren't killing the image. What monitors would you recommend that is an IPS between 23"-25" below $200? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
2560x1600 or 2560x1440 resolution only absolute requirement. There's so many Korean monitors out there, on gmarket there's a TON of 27-30" monitors with this resolution for as low as 280$, but I assume paying that amount is just going to leave me with a headache dealing with replacements etc right? Will use it mostly for poker and I guess watching movies or whatever --- don't really care how it does gaming wise, I've already got 2 other monitors. I've had two 30" samsung monitors before (back when they were like 1.5k -.-), but they both experienced the same somewhat notorious end (once within warranty, then the second one expired in the same fashion after warranty was up). Sooooooo not really super interested in paying massive amounts, preferably just strike some kind of deal between value and quality... I.E I dont want to have to replace it in 1 year or send it back in because of dead pixels etc. The vast majority of sellers on Gmarket seem to make no mention of Pixel Perfect buy options (saw one labeled PP which I assume is pixel perfect tho), so that's something that's worrying to me as well -.- Anyway, I know this entire thread is full of similar questions, but there's just too many fucking options out there, I'm getting lost in the sea of small details. Yamakasi Q270? (listed at about 300$ on gmarket) Wasabi Mango QHD275? (listed at about 275$) Crossover 2770MD (listed at about 385$... is this one more expensive because its a better quality brand or simply because it seems to be possible to overclock it?) ETC ETC ETC.... Then there's the random companies I've never even heard of that also have a ton of monitors in the 300~ range, like: MF First F301GD for 250$ Yamakasi 301 SPARTA S-IPS for 270$ Zevroid-30Qz for 360$ Etc. Anyway, does any one of these stand out as being a clearly better buy (or some model I missed) than the others? Thanks in advance :D I know I could research this myself but... I hate having this many options, I get seriously bogged down in the minutia of making the perfect choice when I dont really care about 90% of the finer points of this monitor, I just don't want it to be defect or breakdown, and not kill my eyes when I stare at it all day. I'm fine with paying more than this btw, 5-600 is ok if there's a point in doing so. | ||
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Nort
Germany11 Posts
Dell u2715h ~ 475€ Asus PB278QR ~ 450€ both 27", 2560x1440, IPS-Panel and relatively new on the market. | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
 Electronics in Korea so overpriced ;/ | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
http://www.overclock.net/t/1384767/official-the-qnix-x-star-1440p-monitor-club Is probably the go to resource that pretty much tells you everything you need to know about that particular monitor. Overclock.net has a thread like that for more or less every one of the popular korean 27 inch brands so looking around there is a great resource. | ||
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EngrishTeacher
Canada1109 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On December 12 2014 22:59 Kupon3ss wrote: We had a discussion about this on the last page and honestly many of the ~300 dollar korean monitors are fantastic for valve even in the west. I personally like the QNIX/X-star 2710 evolution 2 in terms of balance between rockbottom prices and quality at that resolution http://www.overclock.net/t/1384767/official-the-qnix-x-star-1440p-monitor-club Is probably the go to resource that pretty much tells you everything you need to know about that particular monitor. Overclock.net has a thread like that for more or less every one of the popular korean 27 inch brands so looking around there is a great resource. Thanks, So, as long as I avoid the new TRUE10 model, this one should be overclockable to at least the mid 90s and probably 120hz, correct? http://item2.gmarket.co.kr/Item/detailview/Item.aspx?goodscode=600188884&pos_class_cd=111111111&pos_class_kind=T&pos_shop_cd=SH&keyword_order=QX2710 Evolution II&keyword_seqno=6271711565&search_keyword=QX2710 Evolution II Correct model etc right? The spec sheet (scroll down, gmarket doesnt let you link -.-) lists hdmi as maxing out at 1080p, but that's just because HDMI maxes out at that right, and with regular DVI connection it'll be the listed 1440? Just making sure I understood it correctly  Thinking about just buying two of these... | ||
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