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Mackem
United Kingdom470 Posts
Good keyboard for typing & SC2 Has all regular keys i.e. not like some of these mini keyboard that are missing arrow keys Has a UK keyboard layout i.e. big enter button etc. Not bothered if it has numpad or not Available in the UK/Able to be delivered to the UK for a cheap(ish) price Any help would be great. Thanks. | ||
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isleyofthenorth
Austria894 Posts
On September 07 2011 23:38 Absolutionn wrote: The funny thing is that outside of TL or some RTS community I've always hear people say that browns are the best for gaming because it is easier to double tap them and this functions well in shooters and etc. However picking switches changes totally when it comes down to what game you play. Because most of us play statecraft we will say blue but other switches can function better in different situations. i have clears too and blacks, double tapping isnt easier/better with any of these, only the feel(and the sound of the blues) is different, and blacks feel just empty. i like the other two though. i love the click of the blue aswell so im using that at the moemnt. really everyone who said its all about the feel is right, i can type perfectly fine and fast with blacks and play/doubletap/spam with blue, i dont get faigued from any of these either | ||
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danduz
United States77 Posts
On September 08 2011 00:23 isleyofthenorth wrote: i have clears too and blacks, double tapping isnt easier/better with any of these, only the feel(and the sound of the blues) is different, and blacks feel just empty. i like the other two though. i love the click of the blue aswell so im using that at the moemnt. really everyone who said its all about the feel is right, i can type perfectly fine and fast with blacks and play/doubletap/spam with blue, i dont get faigued from any of these either Thank you for clearing this up for me... I just opted to purchased the 6Gv2 since it was on amazon for under $100, and that was my biggest worry (people saying that brown switches fatigue you out since it requires 70g of pressure). hopefully I have the same results! | ||
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NeonFox
2373 Posts
This is the keyboard I currently have, and the best layout I ever had on a keyboard, I find it perfect. Keys are not as low as it seems on the photo since they sink in a bit. Do you guys know of any mechanical keyboards with low profile keys? | ||
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Hashbaz
United States340 Posts
On September 08 2011 00:23 isleyofthenorth wrote: i have clears too and blacks, double tapping isnt easier/better with any of these, only the feel(and the sound of the blues) is different, and blacks feel just empty. i like the other two though. i love the click of the blue aswell so im using that at the moemnt. really everyone who said its all about the feel is right, i can type perfectly fine and fast with blacks and play/doubletap/spam with blue, i dont get faigued from any of these either It's not quite true that the double-tapping issue is just a matter of feel. Because the actuation and release points are separate for blue switches, it's harder to "float" right above the actuation point and hit it many times with very little force. Not that doing this is really necessary for Starcraft. I have no trouble spamming commands on my blue-switch Filco, but I'm fully pressing and releasing the key each time (which isn't really double tapping as I understand it). | ||
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Hashbaz
United States340 Posts
On September 08 2011 05:17 NeonFox wrote: Hello, I'm looking to invest into a mechanical keyboard after typing on a friend's and loving the feel, the only problem I have is that I don't like the high profile keys of mechanical keyboards. This is the keyboard I currently have, and the best layout I ever had on a keyboard, I find it perfect. Keys are not as low as it seems on the photo since they sink in a bit. Do you guys know of any mechanical keyboards with low profile keys? You could try scissor switches (e.g., Apple's aluminum keyboard). They don't feel the same as Cherry switches but are still very nice. See http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=All About Scissor Switches. | ||
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NeonFox
2373 Posts
On September 08 2011 05:31 Hashbaz wrote: You could try scissor switches (e.g., Apple's aluminum keyboard). They don't feel the same as Cherry switches but are still very nice. See http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=All About Scissor Switches. Thanks for the advice, scissor switches seem a bit too low tough, ideal would be bewteen those and mechanical ones, I guess I'm being too complicated^^ Some of the keyboards in the link you provided look nice, they actually highlight a thing i like about my keyboard I never really reallised, and that is the "bouncy" feeling of the keys. Do mechanical switches feel like this? | ||
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DreamChaser
1649 Posts
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SuburbianChav
2 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BT0Vo.jpg) Its called Classic 104 keys mechanical gaming typing keyboard. Features: Sleek design Mechanical key switch touch feeling, tactile feedback Instant sound feedback Superior tactility and faster response Laser printing keycaps Precision key clicking Screwless Design Specifications: Interface: USB Switch Mechanism: Mechanical switch (APC BSW 055WH switch) I wont hide that prize was the biggest factor deciding in here (£37.98). I also like huge shift and ctrl buttons, they are not so big as in Tt MEKA (no windows keys) but still should make sc2 a bit easier. I ll write something more as soon as it comes. Btw I am a little bit worried about quality of this product cause there is no company name on it...plus the mechanical switch is kinda mystery to me too(APC BSW 055WH switch). Does anyone knows what is it in compare to Cherrys MX switches? | ||
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Hashbaz
United States340 Posts
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=filco | ||
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Hashbaz
United States340 Posts
On September 08 2011 06:08 SuburbianChav wrote: Mechanical key switch touch feeling, tactile feedback Instant sound feedback Superior tactility and faster response ... Switch Mechanism: Mechanical switch (APC BSW 055WH switch) I wont hide that prize was the biggest factor deciding in here (£37.98). I also like huge shift and ctrl buttons, they are not so big as in Tt MEKA (no windows keys) but still should make sc2 a bit easier. I ll write something more as soon as it comes. Btw I am a little bit worried about quality of this product cause there is no company name on it...plus the mechanical switch is kinda mystery to me too(APC BSW 055WH switch). Does anyone knows what is it in compare to Cherrys MX switches? Sounds similar to Cherry blue switches, but a little bit stiffer (assuming 55WH means 55 grams actuation force). Googling "APC BSW 055WH" suggests they are blue APLS switches, or knock-offs thereof. | ||
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Boblhead
United States2577 Posts
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Hashbaz
United States340 Posts
On September 08 2011 06:05 DreamChaser wrote: Could someone tell me the difference between all the keyboard color things like "cherry" or "blue"? "Common Switch Types" at http://www.overclock.net/keyboards/491752-mechanical-keyboard-guide.html provides a good summary. Short, short version: Cherry is the company that makes the switches. The various colors are all types of "MX" switch. Tactile means you feel a bump as you press the key down, linear means no bump. Even the non-clicky switches tend to be louder than cheapo keyboards, especially if you bottom out as you press the keys. brown: tactile, not clicky clear: more tactile than brown, not clicky blue: tactile, clicky black: linear, not clicky red: linear (lower actuation force than black), not clicky | ||
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Hashbaz
United States340 Posts
On September 08 2011 05:56 NeonFox wrote:Thanks for the advice, scissor switches seem a bit too low tough, ideal would be bewteen those and mechanical ones, I guess I'm being too complicated^^ Some of the keyboards in the link you provided look nice, they actually highlight a thing i like about my keyboard I never really reallised, and that is the "bouncy" feeling of the keys. Do mechanical switches feel like this? I've never seen a mechanical board with as low a profile as the image you posted, but that doesn't mean they don't exist.  You could try asking at geekhack.org or deskthority.net. Both communities do group buy-ins of custom key caps. Maybe you could persuade others to go in with you for low-profile MX caps.As for the bounciness, I love it too. It's what makes scissor switches unique. Tactile Cherry switches (clears, browns, and blues) have satisfying feedback too (the "bump"), but it's a different feeling. Unfortunately you just need to try them to see what you like best. I asked around at work and was able to try a few before I bought. You can also get used boards of various switch types on ebay or the aforementioned enthusiast forums for much less than a new Leopold or SteelSeries. It's also possible to buy a few individual switches and solder them onto a board yourself. That said, they all feel really good and you will probably be happy with whatever you get. And if you're not, you can often sell it back for a decent proportion of buying price (at the aforementioned enthusiast forums ) | ||
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OhMyGawd
United States264 Posts
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NeonFox
2373 Posts
On September 08 2011 08:13 Hashbaz wrote: I've never seen a mechanical board with as low a profile as the image you posted, but that doesn't mean they don't exist. You could try asking at geekhack.org or deskthority.net. Both communities do group buy-ins of custom key caps. Maybe you could persuade others to go in with you for low-profile MX caps.As for the bounciness, I love it too. It's what makes scissor switches unique. Tactile Cherry switches (clears, browns, and blues) have satisfying feedback too (the "bump"), but it's a different feeling. Unfortunately you just need to try them to see what you like best. I asked around at work and was able to try a few before I bought. You can also get used boards of various switch types on ebay or the aforementioned enthusiast forums for much less than a new Leopold or SteelSeries. It's also possible to buy a few individual switches and solder them onto a board yourself. That said, they all feel really good and you will probably be happy with whatever you get. And if you're not, you can often sell it back for a decent proportion of buying price (at the aforementioned enthusiast forums )Will do, thank you very much! | ||
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danduz
United States77 Posts
On September 08 2011 07:35 Hashbaz wrote: For those waiting on Amazon for a Filco, looks like they have a few 104-key browns available: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=filco would the filco be a huge upgrade over the 6gv2 with the brown switches?? is it worth the extra $49??! | ||
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fraffMANTIS
United States6 Posts
I own this keyboard. The build quality is pretty good (not the best). Cherry Mx Blue switches. This is great for someone who doesn't have a lot of money, but wants to "try out" a mechanical keyboard. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823166109&Tpk=ADESSO MKB-135B | ||
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Boblhead
United States2577 Posts
On September 08 2011 16:16 fraffMANTIS wrote: + Show Spoiler + One that i think should be added to best Value/Quality section is the ADESSO MKB-135B. I own this keyboard. The build quality is pretty good (not the best). Cherry Mx Blue switches. This is great for someone who doesn't have a lot of money, but wants to "try out" a mechanical keyboard. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823166109& I can get a ducky 1008 with black alps for $30 :O those things are sturdy build quality with imitation alps, I can get a ducky 1008 with green alps for $30 (45-50g actuation closest alps to a red cherry). Those things are bang for your buck  The MKB-135B from a hands on pov and reading alot of reviews, yes its cherry blues and a full sized board for $65-75 depending on the sales going on. But for the quality its not worth it. best boards under $100 hands down... + Show Spoiler + Best bang for your buck for a full sized board would be the rosewill rk-9000 for $99 which is a filco re-branded rosewill board. Overall solid board, best quality for under $100 Best small form factor would be noppoo choc mini $80-95 depending on switch type. solid, and compact best tenkeyless bang for you buck would be Ducky 1087 $80-95 depending on switch type. Ducky's are overall solid boards, quality is good and are a trusted brand in my book. Excellent customer service. | ||
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Hashbaz
United States340 Posts
On September 08 2011 16:04 danduz wrote: would the filco be a huge upgrade over the 6gv2 with the brown switches?? is it worth the extra $49??! No, I don't think so, given that you already have the 6gv2. I've never used one but my impression is that it's a solid board. It definitely gets more respect among elitists than most other gaming keyboards. FWIW, the main reason I love the Filco is its top-notch build quality. It is heavy and solid, and just generally feels like a nice, expensive piece of equipment (which it is ). To me that is worth a premium. I also dislike the Leopold's windowed caps and scroll lock. If I had to do it again, though, I'd probably buy a 2nd gen Rosewill. | ||
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