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Tarfire
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada67 Posts
August 01 2011 02:09 GMT
#1
Hi all,

After getting quite hyped up and looking at all these fancy mechanical keyboards and such, which would cost me over $100, I've realized that for gaming.. the difference between $15 and $150 is not huge. Yes, there is a difference, but practice is more important, and I've got a good mouse anyways (Razer Deathadder Black)

If anyone has experience with any cheap keyboards that they can recommend or warn me of, it would be much appreciated. I'm just looking for something ~$20 that feels good, the keys don't require too much pressure, and possibly has a wrist rest. For example, I am looking at the Logitech K120 as a possiblity. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 03:59:20
August 01 2011 03:53 GMT
#2
I honestly cannot recommend a single cheap membrane keyboard. However I have used
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/wired-keyboard-600/ANB-00001
Which lasted a very long time, still works but I dont use it anymore.
I currently use
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards/keyboard/devices/6692
on a secondary PC.

Neither of these have a wrist wrest, I personally wont ever use a wrist rest from a keyboard as I enjoy getting proper blood flow through my wrist. Either none, or one padded and designed for longer use.

The k120 keys are easily 2x harder to press than my mech keyboard with cherry blues.

Honestly though, I used to go through these membrane keyboards one every 3-6 months. Stopped being worth it and just bought a mechanical keyboard. Feels good man.
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GhostKorean
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2330 Posts
August 01 2011 04:05 GMT
#3
Seriously your keyboard matters very little in gaming. I'm on a friggin laptop and I'm doing fine
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 04:15:22
August 01 2011 04:14 GMT
#4
On August 01 2011 13:05 GhostKorean wrote:
Seriously your keyboard matters very little in gaming. I'm on a friggin laptop and I'm doing fine

Until you buy a mechanical keyboard and have your world changed. Not going to go into a mech vs cheap membrane here, it might not matter specifically in casual gaming but as far as life expectancy (of the keyboard) potential rsi injuries and overall performance there most certainly is a difference. Sure you can repeatedly spend small amounts of money for a mediocre keyboard, or you can get a mechanical keyboard which is great for typing and probably never have it break in your lifetime. $100 now, or $100 over the next 5 years, you be the judge.
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SpoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1542 Posts
August 01 2011 04:43 GMT
#5
samsung qsenn dt 35 obviously..
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JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
August 01 2011 05:24 GMT
#6
i would still recommend paying a few extra dollars for some sort of scissor switch keyboard. its not THAT much more (you can get scissor switch keyboards for <40) and its quite a bit better than membrane.
dbddbddb
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore969 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 06:06:50
August 01 2011 05:56 GMT
#7
i just made the same exact thread as you did.. and i found a good one that is cheap and comes with a hand rest. it is has full sized shift bar and backspace which many 'generic' keyboards WITH wrist pad dont seem to have

genius c-210
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only wish it didnt have the extra media buttons on top but it looks good other than that
it's hard to find a cheap ass keyboard that comes with an optional wrist pad.

if you dont need the wrist pad i think this one is great
microsoft 200
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On August 01 2011 13:43 SpoR wrote:
samsung qsenn dt 35 obviously..


sucks because
1. shift and backspace are tiny.
2. theres an extra button beside the alt key. no idea what it is for but its definitely not a good thing
3. overpriced as hell because people think buying it makes them better ta games
4. has korean letters on the keys
Zaken_
Profile Joined March 2011
Spain35 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 10:29:32
August 01 2011 10:27 GMT
#8
On August 01 2011 14:56 dbddbddb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 13:43 SpoR wrote:
samsung qsenn dt 35 obviously..


sucks because
1. shift and backspace are tiny.
2. theres an extra button beside the alt key. no idea what it is for but its definitely not a good thing
3. overpriced as hell because people think buying it makes them better ta games
4. has korean letters on the keys

What is wrong with korean letters and that key that you won't use?.Btw, the shift is not tiny, and about the price, the k120 cost 13€ the qsenn 18€ shipped, make your own judgment.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 10:29:52
August 01 2011 10:29 GMT
#9
On August 01 2011 19:27 Zaken_ wrote:
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On August 01 2011 14:56 dbddbddb wrote:
On August 01 2011 13:43 SpoR wrote:
samsung qsenn dt 35 obviously..


sucks because
1. shift and backspace are tiny.
2. theres an extra button beside the alt key. no idea what it is for but its definitely not a good thing
3. overpriced as hell because people think buying it makes them better ta games
4. has korean letters on the keys

What is wrong with korean letters and that key that you won't use?.Btw, the shift is not tiny.


Why would you want korean letters and a key you won't use, especially if you can find better keyboards costwise?
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 01 2011 12:00 GMT
#10
If it's a cheap keyboard then it doesn't really matter what you buy. They all the same. Just pick something on the looks that you like.
Rillanon.au
wakefield
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom114 Posts
August 01 2011 12:18 GMT
#11
just get something that costs like $5, i use the board that came free with my comp that probably would have cost like $1
Tablespoon
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway223 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 13:58:49
August 01 2011 13:11 GMT
#12
Try and see if you can find one of those Dell keyboards with the huge spacebar. They are surprisingly good.
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Kylefesy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States5 Posts
August 01 2011 17:07 GMT
#13
if you want mechanical you might want to search ebay for an IBM model m. you can usually find them rather cheap.
Greek820
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada210 Posts
August 01 2011 17:11 GMT
#14
Just save your money and buy something that's worth it = Das
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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
August 01 2011 17:18 GMT
#15
cheap =>QSenn
Expensive =>Das

I use Razer Blackwidow
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anathematize
Profile Joined June 2011
United States69 Posts
August 01 2011 17:37 GMT
#16
i can second the recommendation for the cheapy Dell above.

we have a box of those in our equipment closet at work and i've been grabbing them and using them until they die (disclaimer: they DO have a short lifespan).
chickenhawk
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal339 Posts
August 01 2011 17:42 GMT
#17
Try the k-300 from logitech, around 26 euros, dunno how much dollar, pretty good fro the price.
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
August 01 2011 17:45 GMT
#18
seriouly all that matters is the switch

if you are going membrane then they will *all* feel the same because they are the same

so you really cant recommend a dell keyboard over a ms one apart from aesthetics.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
August 01 2011 17:51 GMT
#19
On August 02 2011 02:45 MrTortoise wrote:
seriouly all that matters is the switch

if you are going membrane then they will *all* feel the same because they are the same

so you really cant recommend a dell keyboard over a ms one apart from aesthetics.

I recommend the QSenn because of the aesthetics
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jazzyjazz
Profile Joined October 2010
941 Posts
August 01 2011 18:08 GMT
#20
You don't really need a mechanical keyboard. They're obviously better and last longer, but they do cost a bit more. A regular $20 keyboard will do fine. And you're right, practice is definitely more important than what type of equipment you have.

There's a lot of people saying how mechanical keyboards last A LOT (as in 5 times) longer than regular keyboards. That's simply not true. I own both and I have regular keyboards that have lasted at least 2-3 years.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 19:57:08
August 01 2011 19:14 GMT
#21
On August 01 2011 13:14 Phayze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 13:05 GhostKorean wrote:
Seriously your keyboard matters very little in gaming. I'm on a friggin laptop and I'm doing fine

Until you buy a mechanical keyboard and have your world changed. Not going to go into a mech vs cheap membrane here, it might not matter specifically in casual gaming but as far as life expectancy (of the keyboard) potential rsi injuries and overall performance there most certainly is a difference. Sure you can repeatedly spend small amounts of money for a mediocre keyboard, or you can get a mechanical keyboard which is great for typing and probably never have it break in your lifetime. $100 now, or $100 over the next 5 years, you be the judge.

Excuse me but list me a case of a RSI of the finger due to typing, RSI has more often to do with posture then what you're tapping. Most injuries due to typing are avoided by using a proper wrist rest and a proper chair and desk to match the appropriate height you should be sitting for your arms to slightly rest at an incline and be positioned directly in front of you.

Also your point of money saved is purely based on how a person take care of the keyboard, i've seen office and school keyboards last 5+ years on the other end i've seen keyboard dead in a month because idiots spill fluid and basically shit all over it. Same principle applies to mech keyboards most often it's much more deadly to spill something on such a keyboard.

Along with a 15 dollar keyboard say last a good 2 years(A short but acceptable period) over 10 years if you bought a mech keyboard saying cost 100 dollars you did not save money 15 * 5 replacements every 2 years is 75 dollars so you lost 15 dollars. If over 5 years hell let's make it you bought a new keyboard every year that's still not saving till the 7th year.

Say you spend 20 dollars on a keyboard because you like media keys, something most mech keyboard don't have, that's only a saving after 6 years on the replace it per a year cycle and 12 year if you replaced it every other year.

Hell even at 2 years a K120 from logitech is under warranty so you would save money if you just registered your keyboard with them went you bought it, logitech often offers free shipping so if it broke down every year you could have it replaced for nearly free every time.
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards/keyboard/devices/6692
http://www.logitech.com/en-us/footer/terms-of-use?wt.mc_id=usym_redirect_/warranty&id=3101
Ofc the warranty is likely void because you beat the shit out of the keyboard that's why it broke in 1 to 2 years. And likely your mech keyboard would not last much longer then that under such abusive conditions.

Your points are fallacious and not helpful.


as far as keyboard http://www.logitech.com/en-us/keyboards/keyboard/devices/6692 is what i like when buying a nice cheap one, the keys are half height but still easily distinguishable though feel and very similar to laptop keys in feel when pressed, not as flat though, sense i usually work between a desktop and laptop i find it usable and to that end worth the 14 bucks to buy it.

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http://scienceblogs.com/cortex/2009/04/the_psychology_of_the_sale.php
I was doing my grocery shopping yesterday when I stumbled upon a discount that I assumed was a clerical mistake: some fancy olive oil had been reduced from $23 to $9. Needless to say, I immediately put a bottle in my cart, even though I didn't need another bottle of olive oil.

But then, just a few minutes later, I began to wonder: why was the olive oil so drastically reduced in price? Is something wrong with it? What isn't Whole Foods telling me? That nagging suspicion - and I'm sure it was completely unfounded - was enough for me to put the bottle back on the shelf. It was too good a deal.

My perverse behavior illustrates something interesting about consumers. In general, people rely on a simple heuristic, or mental short-cut, when trying to evaluate the quality of a product: we assume that more expensive things are of higher quality. In other words, you get what you pay for. As a result, we automatically suspect products on sale of being faulty, or inferior. And because our expectations profoundly influence our experience, an olive oil that we expect to be lower in quality will actually taste lower in quality.

Look, for example, at this witty little experiment, which I describe in my book. Baba Shiv, a neuroeconomist at Stanford, supplied a group of people with Sobe Adrenaline Rush, an "energy" drink that was supposed to make them feel more alert and energetic. (The drink contained a potent brew of sugar and caffeine which, the bottle promised, would impart "superior functionality"). Some participants paid full price for the drinks, while others were offered a discount. The participants were then asked to solve a series of word puzzles. Shiv found that people who paid discounted prices consistently solved about thirty percent fewer puzzles than the people who paid full price for the drinks. The subjects were convinced that the stuff on sale was much less potent, even though all the drinks were identical.

Why did the cheaper energy drink prove less effective? According to Shiv, consumers typically suffer from a version of the placebo effect. Since we expect cheaper goods to be less effective, they generally are less effective, even if they are identical to more expensive products. This is why brand-name aspirin works better than generic aspirin, or why Coke tastes better than cheaper colas, even if most consumers can't tell the difference in blind taste tests. "We have these general beliefs about the world⎯for example, that cheaper products are of lower quality⎯and they translate into specific expectations about specific products," said Shiv. "Then, once these expectations are activated, they start to really impact our behavior.

Over time, the presence of sales can really diminish a brand. I used to buy all my clothes at the Gap - I'm stuck with the fashion sense of an 8 year old boy - but, starting a few years ago, I noticed that everything at the Gap appeared to be on sale. This is problematic for two reasons: 1) It triggers deflationary expectations - why buy the t-shirt now when you can buy the same t-shirt for less in two weeks, after yet another "final" sale? and 2) It erodes the quality of the brand, at least as perceived by consumers. I implicitly assume that Gap has to put t-shirts on sale because they're of lower quality, when the actual reason might have to do with the overproduction of some factory in Turkey, or an inventory accounting rule, or some other banal corporate mistake. Nevertheless, the sale has had a psychological impact - I associate the brand with stuff people don't like. There must be a reason why that shirt is so cheap and why the price of that olive oil has been slashed.

For comparison, look at American Apparel. Have you ever seen an American Apparel store advertise a sale in the window? Or slash the price of their t-shirts? I thought not. They know that they are in the perception business, and that how we perceive a t-shirt depends on many other factors that have nothing do with the quality of cotton. Sometimes, the easiest way to make the consumer happier with a purchase is to increase the price.

When you use phrases like change your life on a product that is a give away of a bias and faulty approach likely lead though reading countless forum posts saying it's a good product to invest your money in and thus once obtained you believe it was the shit and hold it true to this day because either they are right and it is well worth the 100 dollar or you just spent a lot of money on a keyboard that is essentially the same functionality as one at 1/6th the cost


On August 02 2011 04:39 FuRRyChoBo wrote:
go to walmart and buy a cheap keyboard that looks like it would come with a dell setup from best buy. there's nothing more ridiculous than people thinking you need a mechanical keyboard and some crazy razer mouse to play sc2.

A mouse simply on credence of preference of dpi ie how much a mouse can go on the screen has value, but a keyboard has no value, SC1 which much much higher apm pros played on essentally disposable keyboards they got in bulk from samsung hit 400+ apm on without skipping a beat, some on ball mice which was fine for the 640x480 size SC1 but may not fit the same on a 1920x1200 screen. As far as the keyboard these are people who play 8+ hours at 300+ apm everyday to stay sharp if they wear down keyboards ever 2 weeks or w.e it may be that is from heavy use that a person outside of that scene is unlikely to match.
GrimmJ
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada131 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 19:39:34
August 01 2011 19:36 GMT
#22
I'm personally using the Logitech K120, until I eventually buy a mechanical keyboard. The K120 is cheap, and it has a nice feel to it. I also have a Deathadder and the combo works beautifully.

EDIT: You also live in Canada, and you can buy it basically anywhere. Walmart, Futureshop, Staples, etc.
FuRRyChoBo
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States218 Posts
August 01 2011 19:39 GMT
#23
go to walmart and buy a cheap keyboard that looks like it would come with a dell setup from best buy. there's nothing more ridiculous than people thinking you need a mechanical keyboard and some crazy razer mouse to play sc2.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
August 01 2011 19:55 GMT
#24
I've had the same Dell keyboard that came with my prebuilt 7 years ago for...7 years. And it's still going strong (it's quite disgusting because I rarely ever clean it, but that's only additional testimony to its durability). Whenever you hear people say mechanical keyboards will last long enough to save you money, discard unless you literally use your keyboard like a drum set while submerged in liquid.

But if there's a certain feel you're going for, definitely try to find something similar. If you're used to using laptop keyboards/similar smooth keyboards, try finding one of those (I haven't found any reasonable ones DX). If you don't like raised keys, avoid those. Essentially, go for something you like and are comfortable with. Only go with something expensive if you really want it, not because someone else told you to for no particular reason (unless it's a genuine compatibility with your tastes).
LMPeaches
Profile Joined December 2010
United States157 Posts
August 01 2011 20:36 GMT
#25
On August 01 2011 22:11 Tablespoon wrote:
Try and see if you can find one of those Dell keyboards with the huge spacebar. They are surprisingly good.
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I'm use that dell board, and prefer it to my old Lycosa. Idra said somewhere that generic dell keyboard feels a lot like the qsenn board.
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FeiLing
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany428 Posts
August 01 2011 21:17 GMT
#26
Cherry eVolution STREAM XT (15-20€):
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wolfe
Profile Joined March 2010
United States761 Posts
August 01 2011 21:33 GMT
#27
Logitech illuminated Keyboard is amazing, can be found on sale for 20.
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nlite
Profile Joined July 2011
8 Posts
August 01 2011 21:40 GMT
#28
Go to the computer section of any thrift store and test out the keyboards until you find a mechanical one. To confirm just pull out a key and inspect the switch. You might have to clean it, but it should cost you about $5 max.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-01 21:46:21
August 01 2011 21:46 GMT
#29
On August 02 2011 06:40 nlite wrote:
Go to the computer section of any thrift store and test out the keyboards until you find a mechanical one. To confirm just pull out a key and inspect the switch. You might have to clean it, but it should cost you about $5 max.

or you could go to a best buy and buy a keyboard for 10 bucks and not spend your afternoon going though thrift stores. You're not selling a product you're selling an experience there sort of like restoring an old car it's more about status then practicality. You're also under the assumption that keyboards from the 80's will still be around in such area's sort of like the assumption you could find cheap good 1950's-70's US muscle cars juts in any junk yard just being ready to be plucked from there, when that's far from the truth.
CosmosXAM
Profile Joined April 2011
United States121 Posts
August 01 2011 23:51 GMT
#30
Switching keyboards isn't terrible either. You will just have to spend a little bit getting used to it.
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Jeenyus
Profile Joined July 2011
United States109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 00:06:35
August 02 2011 00:05 GMT
#31
http://www.google.com/imgres?q=microsoft office keyboard&hl=en&gbv=2&tbm=isch&tbnid=AFEcB1lnlVfRZM:&imgrefurl=http://www.activewin.com/reviews/hardware/keyboards/ms/office_keyboard/index.shtml&docid=tXKVJngiWa8A2M&w=1078&h=587&ei=7j43TsnnDcPjiAKbzv34Dg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=170&vpy=111&dur=699&hovh=166&hovw=304&tx=139&ty=57&page=1&tbnh=111&tbnw=203&start=0&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&biw=1280&bih=935

thats the keyboard i am using right now, been using it for over 4 years? it feels great and wouldnt change it
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Mayor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States472 Posts
August 02 2011 01:06 GMT
#32
On August 02 2011 05:36 LMPeaches wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 22:11 Tablespoon wrote:
Try and see if you can find one of those Dell keyboards with the huge spacebar. They are surprisingly good.
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I'm use that dell board, and prefer it to my old Lycosa. Idra said somewhere that generic dell keyboard feels a lot like the qsenn board.


Does anyone know the model of this/where I can find it? o.o
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bps
Profile Joined January 2011
United States13 Posts
August 02 2011 01:28 GMT
#33
look on ebay for a dell AT101W. A NIB one shouldn't run you more than $50, and you can pick up a good condition one for <$30. The only problem I could see is that like most older keyboards it's PS2 so you might need a converter if you don't have a PS2 port.
Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
August 02 2011 01:58 GMT
#34
On August 02 2011 10:28 bps wrote:
look on ebay for a dell AT101W. A NIB one shouldn't run you more than $50, and you can pick up a good condition one for <$30. The only problem I could see is that like most older keyboards it's PS2 so you might need a converter if you don't have a PS2 port.

If you're spending $50 on a keyboard you might as well put in the $20 and get the black widow.
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jw232
Profile Joined January 2009
United States157 Posts
August 02 2011 02:41 GMT
#35
+1 for the stock Dell keyboard (SK-8115 I believe). It lasted me 3+ years of BW before I got a mechanical. It didn't make me a better player, but it's fun to type on, and I type a lot in my job.
Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 05:28:50
August 02 2011 05:26 GMT
#36
$5 on ebay

http://www.amazon.com/Dell-SK8110-Key-Board-Sk-8110/dp/B000YD12K0

Dell Sk 8110


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$14.99 on newegg. I found this to be closest to a DT-35, quality is good and solid. Plus F-keys are close to number keys which is perfect.

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201038
zipz0p
Profile Joined February 2010
United States123 Posts
August 02 2011 05:53 GMT
#37
On August 01 2011 22:11 Tablespoon wrote:
Try and see if you can find one of those Dell keyboards with the huge spacebar. They are surprisingly good.
[image loading]

Yeah, if I wasn't a technophile and feel like I need fancy things (like this Filco Majestouch Ninja on which I now type), I'd get one of those. Or essentially any keyboard with laptop-style scissor switch keys. Actually, that said, I really like chiclet keys too. I think there exist any number of these keyboards for not too much money. Go to local microcenter (if you have one), and profit.

I've personally never used those wrist things either... I don't think they help at all. Just make sure to rest your arms on your desk, and don't tense your hands/arms/wrists. Stretch if you feel your forearm muscles are too tight... I've never had any issues and spend absolutely absurd amounts of time in front of a computer, usually using only the keyboard and hotkeys to navigate.
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 07:54:01
August 02 2011 07:35 GMT
#38
I used the Dell 8135 for about 4 years (it is the same as the frequently posted 8115, but with multimedia keys) and it was the most comfortable keyboard I've used. I'm definitely considering ordering a few of them if I don't end up getting a Das.

After my 8135 died, I used this Lenovo for a while before I got my 6Gv2. I have two of these, one that is full sized, and one that is compact, and has the f-keys really close to the number keys, but still maintaining full sized keys and spacing otherwise. I prefer the latter but both are quite pleasant, with full sized keys and none of that low profile crap. The keys have a textured finish I paid a total of 5 dollars for both. The full sized was bought from my mom's library as they were upgrading machines (it was used but fully functional), and the compact one was brand new from my dad's work, where they buy them in lots of 50 once a year or so, so I asked the owner if I could have one and happily agreed. You will often find them on the cheap from businesses or universities upgrading their systems who are selling old equipment.

I could only find the link for the full sized one:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823218011CVF
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tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
August 02 2011 07:41 GMT
#39
Use DT 35 like a pro !!!
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
August 02 2011 07:51 GMT
#40
On August 01 2011 22:11 Tablespoon wrote:
Try and see if you can find one of those Dell keyboards with the huge spacebar. They are surprisingly good.
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I can sign off on this. I've had a very similar model for 5+ years. Given it wasn't on my gaming computer but it's a great all-round keyboard and feels better than a lot of more expensive ones.
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zala2023
Profile Joined April 2011
United States228 Posts
August 02 2011 08:18 GMT
#41
On August 01 2011 22:11 Tablespoon wrote:
Try and see if you can find one of those Dell keyboards with the huge spacebar. They are surprisingly good.
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Yeah I have one of these as well. Cheap, simple, gets the job done. For 10-20 bucks this is as good as it gets.

With that being said, after getting used to my filco its membrane keys feel like shit lol
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ThorsThunder
Profile Joined January 2011
United States25 Posts
January 06 2012 05:17 GMT
#42
On August 01 2011 22:11 Tablespoon wrote:
Try and see if you can find one of those Dell keyboards with the huge spacebar. They are surprisingly good.
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I use one of these for work (web developer), and I'm happy with it. The new Dell keyboards have flatter keys and aren't as clicky, which is one of the things I liked about their older ones.
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SoulWager
Profile Joined August 2010
United States464 Posts
January 06 2012 08:35 GMT
#43
You might be able to find an old mechanical keyboard in a recycle bin somewhere.
Bulkers
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland509 Posts
January 06 2012 08:54 GMT
#44
Well you can buy a car for 500$ but you can also buy car for 1000000$, whats the difference? Both can drive, both got wheels, engine and steering wheel. Same with keyboards you can buy 10$ keyboard or 250$ keyboard, both got keys, on both you can type XD

Why you use razer deathadder? Thats like 60$ mice, you can buy mice for 10$ and with both you can controll mouse pointer...
qeMix
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany71 Posts
January 06 2012 09:39 GMT
#45
On August 01 2011 22:11 Tablespoon wrote:
Try and see if you can find one of those Dell keyboards with the huge spacebar. They are surprisingly good.
[image loading]


actually bought one of these just to try out the UK layout ... used it for a week and ordered a filco-UK.
and i would never go back to membrane keyboards. i cry every time i'm at work (i'm a student so i only work part time twice a week).

Brian333
Profile Joined August 2010
657 Posts
January 06 2012 10:14 GMT
#46
Well, for the people who are wondering why you would spend more on a keyboard...

This is personal experience. Take it for what you will.

A while ago, I spilled an entire glass of water all over my desk. Unfortunately, at the time I was half asleep and could not push in my keyboard tray before my filco got drenched. Even worse, I pretty much did everything possible to ensure my keyboard would break -- I didn't immediately unplug it, I actually tried to type on it, and I actually shook it around. Water was not only all over the inside of the keyboard, it was in the switches and all over the switch board.

Anyways, I took the keyboard apart (which was incredibly hard due to how it was built), dried it with a towel, condensed air, and left it on top of a dehumidifier for a night. The next day, I put it back together and it worked like nothing happened at all and has continued to work ever since. The only damage done was a broken warranty seal over a screw on its underside.

Now, in comparison, the last time I've spilled water on my keyboard, it was with an only membrane keyboard. The result? Instant death. I took it apart, dried it, left it on top of a dehumidifier, and half the keys never recovered.

I was thoroughly impressed and incredibly thankful because this was around when Skyrim came out, I didn't have a spare keyboard lying around, and I didn't want to pick up another mechanical keyboard.
objeCt
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden177 Posts
May 07 2012 14:03 GMT
#47
On August 01 2011 13:14 Phayze wrote:
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On August 01 2011 13:05 GhostKorean wrote:
Seriously your keyboard matters very little in gaming. I'm on a friggin laptop and I'm doing fine

Until you buy a mechanical keyboard and have your world changed. Not going to go into a mech vs cheap membrane here, it might not matter specifically in casual gaming but as far as life expectancy (of the keyboard) potential rsi injuries and overall performance there most certainly is a difference. Sure you can repeatedly spend small amounts of money for a mediocre keyboard, or you can get a mechanical keyboard which is great for typing and probably never have it break in your lifetime. $100 now, or $100 over the next 5 years, you be the judge.


i used a lycosa, until someone told me to get a mechanical one because it's supposed to be 10x better, at first i bought the 6gv2 and did not like it and it did not improve my game in anyway, tried the blackwidow with blue switches and i couldn't play at all, now im on a cheap logitech k120 (membrane) and I love it. For me atleast, it's all about preference. even tho mechanical keyboards are slightly more responsive
m1rk3
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada412 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-07 14:45:18
May 07 2012 14:45 GMT
#48
here cheap and good for practice

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201038
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Blackhawk13
Profile Joined April 2010
United States442 Posts
May 07 2012 16:32 GMT
#49
I'd go with some random $10 keyboard with a normal layout like the one linked by m1rk3 above^^. A Qsenn Dt35 would be cool too if you could get one on the cheap but I wouldn't spend over $30 on a keyboard that probably costs $10 in Korea.

With that said, mechanical keyboards can be found for as cheap as $60 and would be well worth it if you can scrap together the cash.
LUTROSIS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States54 Posts
May 07 2012 16:43 GMT
#50
you can pick up a cheap like 5-10$ keyboard at walmart ... i believe its made by logitech, it has low(er) keys than a normal keyboard but its not a scissor switch... just a half height rubber dome, its pretty nice even compared to the brown switch i use currently
...wtf?
Thezftw
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland116 Posts
May 07 2012 17:53 GMT
#51
On August 02 2011 03:08 jazzyjazz wrote:
You don't really need a mechanical keyboard. They're obviously better and last longer, but they do cost a bit more. A regular $20 keyboard will do fine. And you're right, practice is definitely more important than what type of equipment you have.

There's a lot of people saying how mechanical keyboards last A LOT (as in 5 times) longer than regular keyboards. That's simply not true. I own both and I have regular keyboards that have lasted at least 2-3 years.
But we could assume it dies out tomorrow and the mechanical will last you another 15 years.. I mean, I had rubberdome keyboard for 5 years and it worked just fine because apparently, I don't rape my keyboards...

Either way, it doesn't really matter what cheap KB you buy (because they're pretty much all the same) unless you go mechanical. Most non-mechanical gaming keyboards are a steal as they cost a lot and adding a bit more could you get good, mechanical instead.
LJ
Profile Joined January 2012
203 Posts
May 07 2012 19:50 GMT
#52
Logitech K200 is ok
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
May 07 2012 23:50 GMT
#53
On August 01 2011 22:11 Tablespoon wrote:
Try and see if you can find one of those Dell keyboards with the huge spacebar. They are surprisingly good.
[image loading]

I am parroting many others here but I second that this keyboard definitely exceeded my (low) expectation. Nicely shaped keys, nice looks, and decent tactile feel. I think this is as good as it gets without jumping to a mechanical keyboard. If anyone is interested, I have 2 of them which I will sell after my new mechanical keyboard is shipped.
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89vision
Profile Joined September 2010
United States70 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-08 00:17:57
May 08 2012 00:16 GMT
#54
#1 IBM Model M (used)

#2 That Dell from above with the big spacebar is pretty good, really, the keys have cylindrical plastic guides that help the keys feel more stable like a mechanical

#3 ANY used mech board from deskauthority or geekhack, ebay, etc....

#4 Abacus






#5 any cheap board is the same






I have a Choc mini with browns and a leopold with blues for reference. I prefer Tenkeyless boards
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Moosy
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada396 Posts
May 08 2012 00:22 GMT
#55
i think qsenn is the smartest purchase ive made in a while at ~$35.
exousia_7
Profile Joined December 2011
Taiwan215 Posts
May 08 2012 00:28 GMT
#56
If the keyboard is available in your area, I highly recommend the i-rocks 6260. It is a membrane keyboard with POM material under each key for a "mechanical keyboard feeling." It just feels like, but obviously not the same as a true mechanical keyboard. But for its price it is cheap and very comfortable. Check it out :D
yuukirito1610
Profile Joined April 2020
1 Post
April 16 2020 16:48 GMT
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