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On October 14 2015 10:07 xeo1 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2015 19:50 WonnaPlay wrote:On October 13 2015 12:10 xeo1 wrote:
I have a problem with the screen being black with cursor showing when launching windows, after deleting nvidia drivers. The mobo screen shows, however. Went like this:
After getting the latest geforce driver required for star wars battlefront, the game crashed. Then I tried playing csgo, and it kept freezing when I joined a game. So I deleted nvidia drivers, except for audio/physicx because they didn't uninstall for some reason. I reinstalled the driver version I had before. Csgo still froze. So I finally deleted audio/physix, still froze. Then I reinstalled the same driver, this time with corresponding audio/physix. Still froze. Then I changed value.txt stuff, disabled multicore rendering, still froze. Then I deleted drivers, and restarted PC. This is when the screen went blank. I tried taking out and jumping CMOS, booting safe mode, booting with onboard gpu, cleaned PC, and even did the shift spam on blank screen and windows + u to try to get to control panel, as well as ctrl + alt + del. Any ideas on fixing it? It seems you have tried alot of things, which are not the cause of the issue  It's quite possible you have messed with the registry. The cause for the uninstall error is unknown, you have done alot of things, which could cause issues so the best thing you can do is revert back to an older working setup. (preferably before you installed the latest drivers). To do this : During boot press F8 --> Advanced boot options --> Repair your computer --> System Restore --> Date from XXX time ago. Or During boot press F8 --> Advanced boot options --> Last good known configuration. Also try and run malwarebytes(.org) & your virus scanner for a full sweep, since the black booting screen cán be malware aswell (although reviewing your case, it is probably not in this instance). The last good known config also led to blank screen. The system restore says to remove media before continuing, even though only peripherals and monitor are plugged in.
With Blank screen, I'm assuming this is a "Black background + mouse cursor screen".
What kind of screen are you connecting to, through what cable?
If this is DVI-D/HDMI/DisplayPort, please try and connect a VGA monitor/cable (preferably directly onto the motherboard, if possible) and see if this helps anything. It might just do the trick and let you install the new drivers/rollback.
Do you have a Windows CD/bootable USB stick? You can system restore from such an external drive.
There are 4 directions in which your problem goes and those are :
1] Registry fuckups (due to the installation/uninstallation processes) --> You need to fix the register somehow through Safe-mode/restore.
2] Monitor can't display proper graphics, since it's output is wrong/not supported --> Do the VGA trick I described above
3] Malware/Spyware/Virus, there's a type of virus/malware which behaves like this. It's a nasty one, but not unfixable --> Need a system restore & full scan with a good virus scanner and malware scanner.
4] Unknown variables (for me) which could also interrupt the system --> We will need more information if available.
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On October 14 2015 18:37 WonnaPlay wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2015 10:07 xeo1 wrote:On October 13 2015 19:50 WonnaPlay wrote:On October 13 2015 12:10 xeo1 wrote:
I have a problem with the screen being black with cursor showing when launching windows, after deleting nvidia drivers. The mobo screen shows, however. Went like this:
After getting the latest geforce driver required for star wars battlefront, the game crashed. Then I tried playing csgo, and it kept freezing when I joined a game. So I deleted nvidia drivers, except for audio/physicx because they didn't uninstall for some reason. I reinstalled the driver version I had before. Csgo still froze. So I finally deleted audio/physix, still froze. Then I reinstalled the same driver, this time with corresponding audio/physix. Still froze. Then I changed value.txt stuff, disabled multicore rendering, still froze. Then I deleted drivers, and restarted PC. This is when the screen went blank. I tried taking out and jumping CMOS, booting safe mode, booting with onboard gpu, cleaned PC, and even did the shift spam on blank screen and windows + u to try to get to control panel, as well as ctrl + alt + del. Any ideas on fixing it? It seems you have tried alot of things, which are not the cause of the issue It's quite possible you have messed with the registry. The cause for the uninstall error is unknown, you have done alot of things, which could cause issues so the best thing you can do is revert back to an older working setup. (preferably before you installed the latest drivers). To do this : During boot press F8 --> Advanced boot options --> Repair your computer --> System Restore --> Date from XXX time ago. Or During boot press F8 --> Advanced boot options --> Last good known configuration. Also try and run malwarebytes(.org) & your virus scanner for a full sweep, since the black booting screen cán be malware aswell (although reviewing your case, it is probably not in this instance). The last good known config also led to blank screen. The system restore says to remove media before continuing, even though only peripherals and monitor are plugged in. With Blank screen, I'm assuming this is a "Black background + mouse cursor screen". What kind of screen are you connecting to, through what cable? If this is DVI-D/HDMI/DisplayPort, please try and connect a VGA monitor/cable (preferably directly onto the motherboard, if possible) and see if this helps anything. It might just do the trick and let you install the new drivers/rollback. Do you have a Windows CD/bootable USB stick? You can system restore from such an external drive. There are 4 directions in which your problem goes and those are : 1] Registry fuckups (due to the installation/uninstallation processes) --> You need to fix the register somehow through Safe-mode/restore. 2] Monitor can't display proper graphics, since it's output is wrong/not supported --> Do the VGA trick I described above 3] Malware/Spyware/Virus, there's a type of virus/malware which behaves like this. It's a nasty one, but not unfixable --> Need a system restore & full scan with a good virus scanner and malware scanner. 4] Unknown variables (for me) which could also interrupt the system --> We will need more information if available.
I had this problem a few times, and it was caused by large Windows Event Viewer logs. (Seriously.) I believe it had been fixed in a patch as I haven't seen it come up in years but something to keep in mind.
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On October 15 2015 10:42 felisconcolori wrote:Show nested quote +On October 14 2015 18:37 WonnaPlay wrote:On October 14 2015 10:07 xeo1 wrote:On October 13 2015 19:50 WonnaPlay wrote:On October 13 2015 12:10 xeo1 wrote:
I have a problem with the screen being black with cursor showing when launching windows, after deleting nvidia drivers. The mobo screen shows, however. Went like this:
After getting the latest geforce driver required for star wars battlefront, the game crashed. Then I tried playing csgo, and it kept freezing when I joined a game. So I deleted nvidia drivers, except for audio/physicx because they didn't uninstall for some reason. I reinstalled the driver version I had before. Csgo still froze. So I finally deleted audio/physix, still froze. Then I reinstalled the same driver, this time with corresponding audio/physix. Still froze. Then I changed value.txt stuff, disabled multicore rendering, still froze. Then I deleted drivers, and restarted PC. This is when the screen went blank. I tried taking out and jumping CMOS, booting safe mode, booting with onboard gpu, cleaned PC, and even did the shift spam on blank screen and windows + u to try to get to control panel, as well as ctrl + alt + del. Any ideas on fixing it? It seems you have tried alot of things, which are not the cause of the issue It's quite possible you have messed with the registry. The cause for the uninstall error is unknown, you have done alot of things, which could cause issues so the best thing you can do is revert back to an older working setup. (preferably before you installed the latest drivers). To do this : During boot press F8 --> Advanced boot options --> Repair your computer --> System Restore --> Date from XXX time ago. Or During boot press F8 --> Advanced boot options --> Last good known configuration. Also try and run malwarebytes(.org) & your virus scanner for a full sweep, since the black booting screen cán be malware aswell (although reviewing your case, it is probably not in this instance). The last good known config also led to blank screen. The system restore says to remove media before continuing, even though only peripherals and monitor are plugged in. With Blank screen, I'm assuming this is a "Black background + mouse cursor screen". What kind of screen are you connecting to, through what cable? If this is DVI-D/HDMI/DisplayPort, please try and connect a VGA monitor/cable (preferably directly onto the motherboard, if possible) and see if this helps anything. It might just do the trick and let you install the new drivers/rollback. Do you have a Windows CD/bootable USB stick? You can system restore from such an external drive. There are 4 directions in which your problem goes and those are : 1] Registry fuckups (due to the installation/uninstallation processes) --> You need to fix the register somehow through Safe-mode/restore. 2] Monitor can't display proper graphics, since it's output is wrong/not supported --> Do the VGA trick I described above 3] Malware/Spyware/Virus, there's a type of virus/malware which behaves like this. It's a nasty one, but not unfixable --> Need a system restore & full scan with a good virus scanner and malware scanner. 4] Unknown variables (for me) which could also interrupt the system --> We will need more information if available. I had this problem a few times, and it was caused by large Windows Event Viewer logs. (Seriously.) I believe it had been fixed in a patch as I haven't seen it come up in years but something to keep in mind.
That is so unlikely, it has to be true.. haha
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How much bandwith you need to watch a twitch stream (source) fluently? I remember a few years ago, that was around ~3500mbit/s and nowadays rarely over 2500mbit/s so far I have seen on ~10 streams. Chrome shows "playback rate", I think it is accurate.
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I can't find their downstream bitrates, but assuming they arent compressing or doing anything janky, they should match their upstream recommendations:
* Recommended bitrate for 1080p: 3000-3500
* Recommended bitrate for 720p: 1800-2500
* Recommended bitrate for 480p: 900-1200
* Recommended bitrate for 360p: 600-800
* Recommended bitrate for 240p: Up to 500
These are all in kbps. On top of this, there is some tcp/ip overhead, which will increase over spotty connections. the "playback rate" you see is likely purely payload bitrate, which wont include overhead.
If you have a consistant connection, I'd say 5mbps down should in pretty much all cases be able to cover a single 1080p stream, and you might be able to get away with about 4mpbs?
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I have advertised 6000mbit/s. I had 6000mbit/s few years ago too (same provider) but it was impossible to watch [source] fluently, even [high] was not possible. Now I can watch ~3500kpbs streams fluently.
I found one exception now. I can not watch LegendaryLea on source fluently (playback rate shows 4400kbps).
--- EDIT: Yes I meant 6mbit/s. ---
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You don't have 6000mbit/s unless you are on some sort of commercial line. Google Fiber is only 1000mbit/s. You probably have something like 6mbit/s. 6mbit/s = 6000kbps
For streaming, you also need to have a very consistant bandwidth, if there is any sort of packet loss, throttleing, or upstream routing that just cant handle the throughput at peak hours, your bandwidth will fluctuate. Even if it maintains on average 6mbit/s, those fluctuations will cause stuttering (which can be covered by buffering up until a point).
For a 4400kbps stream, depending on the network implementation, could in theory rise to over 5mbit/s for transfer over the net. Add in ISPs generally sucking at providing exactly what they claim they do... and everything is mostly explained.
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For a 4400kbps stream, depending on the network implementation, could in theory rise to over 5mbit/s for transfer over the net.
That overhead is also included in the speed test so you don't have to add it in twice
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I suspect this won't have a simple answer as it's been a very hard one for me to fix (still haven't!) but here goes.
I tend to get complete freezes on my PC, perhaps 20 minutes or an hour into playing a graphically intensive game and sometimes just playing Starcraft 2 on the lowest settings, which has been happening more frequently recently hence this post. The display will completely freeze as will any audio and it will require me to turn it off and on again from the power button.
It started a year or two ago but I never knew what was responsible. hardware wise I've slowly replaced everything except for my original HDD and software wise I'm running off an SSD and have fully updated drivers for everything. And yet it's still an issue. I thought it might be a heat issue but I've purchased a CPU cooler and have recently installed a new GFX card and that didn't seem to fix it. I have a program that checks the temperature of the motherboard and components and it never reaches unacceptable temperatures. I've ran a memtest as well and that came back with no problems. I don't overclock either.
Constant Google Searches have availed my nothing and so I turn to you, dear Teamliquid, perhaps I can finally get to the bottom of this.
Specs located within
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CPU: i7-3770k 3.5ghz
MOBO: Gigabyte G1 Sniper M3
RAM: 16GB, DDR3, I forget specific manufacturer or type.
GFX: NVidia GTX950
PSU: Antec 650w
CASE: Antec 190
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Can be GPU drivers. SC2 does that to me on the latest nvidia driver
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On October 16 2015 17:00 BEARDiaguz wrote:I suspect this won't have a simple answer as it's been a very hard one for me to fix (still haven't!) but here goes. I tend to get complete freezes on my PC, perhaps 20 minutes or an hour into playing a graphically intensive game and sometimes just playing Starcraft 2 on the lowest settings, which has been happening more frequently recently hence this post. The display will completely freeze as will any audio and it will require me to turn it off and on again from the power button. It started a year or two ago but I never knew what was responsible. hardware wise I've slowly replaced everything except for my original HDD and software wise I'm running off an SSD and have fully updated drivers for everything. And yet it's still an issue. I thought it might be a heat issue but I've purchased a CPU cooler and have recently installed a new GFX card and that didn't seem to fix it. I have a program that checks the temperature of the motherboard and components and it never reaches unacceptable temperatures. I've ran a memtest as well and that came back with no problems. I don't overclock either. Constant Google Searches have availed my nothing and so I turn to you, dear Teamliquid, perhaps I can finally get to the bottom of this. Specs located within + Show Spoiler +
CPU: i7-3770k 3.5ghz
MOBO: Gigabyte G1 Sniper M3
RAM: 16GB, DDR3, I forget specific manufacturer or type.
GFX: NVidia GTX950
PSU: Antec 650w
CASE: Antec 190
I think this might be your PS (Power Supply), or have you already replaced this aswell?
Sometimes a PS will "die" slowly, meaning that at longer high peaks, he will just stop giving enough Watts.
For example, your 650W PS, delivers a continuous value of 350W, his remaining max is 370W (due to whatever reason), if you play a demanding game for a longer period of time, the Wattage may variate and once the computer asks 380W, your PSU will re-organize the Watts that every member in your PC gets (so Motherboard, Video card etc, get a little less than requested), which in turn results in your symptoms.
This whole story is meaningless only, if you already replaced your PS, but I think when you said you tried replacing almost everything, the PSU is not one of those replacements.
edit: Another reason why it may be the PSU is because you say "graphically demanding", where the videocard is one of the most demanding unit on a PSU.
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I replaced it not too long ago from a 430w and it was still a problem. Is there a way I can diagnose a faulty PSU?
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On October 16 2015 19:09 BEARDiaguz wrote:
I replaced it not too long ago from a 430w and it was still a problem. Is there a way I can diagnose a faulty PSU?
Hmm, not really. The best way is to simply test your PC on a "known" working PSU.
Did the replacement of the PSU have any effect on your situation? Even slight changes as "it went from 1x every 20 minutes to every 30 minutes" are an indicator.
Unfortunately it's always a possibility that you have a DOA PSU, while your 430w PSU was too old for example.
I'm a bit tunneling on the PSU, I may be totally wrong here.
Also try to make sure you have your videocard connected properly on the power supply (See if there's 1or2 6-8pin connectors on the videocard and make sure they're connected). Sorry if I'm underestimating your tech skills, it's just an easy thing to miss.
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Something else you might want to look into instead of hardware:
A crash like that should be some sort of data corruption happening. That could be a hardware problem (RAM etc.), but it could also be software like drivers or perhaps an antivirus. Drivers live inside the core of Windows and can overwrite any data. An antivirus is allowed to stop and inspect anything it wants to and can crash like this.
You could try to find out the exact names of the hardware your board has for networking, audio, USB3, an additional SATA controller (you could disable that one in the BIOS), then google to see if people discuss and blame crashing on those devices.
You could try to search for driver updates on the websites of the manufacturers of the parts as those should be newer than what's on Gigabyte's website, or you could do the opposite and remove the drivers and let Windows use whatever it has in its own driver collection (or reinstall Windows and then never install drivers for anything that just works).
I don't know about things like webcams, printers, scanners and hope that the drivers for those kinds of devices cannot crash everything.
Graphics drivers can do it so that's something where you will want to try older versions.
With regards to data being corrupted on the drive after all the crashing in the past, you can run this here from an Admin command prompt window to make Windows check and replace its own files:
sfc /scannow
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You're right Ropid, it can be any problem.
Maybe try opening "Event Viewer" --> "Windows Logs" --> "System" --> "Filter Current Log" (on the right) --> select "Critical, Warning and Error" and see what comes up, the error might contain your issue. Please post some of the errors here.
It might just say that the computer shutdown unexpectedly, which is one of the most useless errors there is.
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Event logs do fuck all.
I switched my GFX card back to the GTX 650 and I did get a freeze but it took significantly longer to do so. I suspect it might actually be a Power Supply issue, but I can't really confirm before I go and drop like 150+ bucks to get a sweet new one, soooooooooooooooooooooooo.......................
Shit.
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Can one install Windows 10 on a new computer with a Windows 7 key or do you have to install Windows 7 and go through the upgrade process?
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Pretty sure you have to do the upgrade process.
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So I'm planning to replace my cpu, from i3-4160 to i5-4690k. Is there anything I need to do/remember? Other than physically replacing it, with thermal paste of course.
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