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Hi, simple question here
is the following good enough to run sc2 smoothly on low settings? all components seem fine to me and I like to play on low, just looking for a second opinion! thanks!
Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English Intel® Core™ i5-2320 processor (6MB Cache, 3.0GHz) 8GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 4 DIMMs 500GB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache ATI Radeon™ HD 6670
If the 6670 isn't good enough, i can get the 6770 for $100 more, but if it isn't worth it I'd rather not.
thanks! sam
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Yes, 6670 is good enough for medium/high at 1080p.
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If I'm understanding what you're saying, you're talking less of how much actual power will be used by the system at high overclocks, but rather on having a safety net / leeway for whatever reasons. Like efficiency and degradation.
But that's why we're about a high quality unit that you shouldn't have to worry about. For simplicities sake, if you have a high quality unit like the Capstone 450 and you're pulling 350W consistently (which is a worst case scenario since you will rarely have both CPU and GPU at max load individually, moreso at the same time), you're pretty safe.
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On January 06 2012 06:38 skyR wrote: Yes, 6670 is good enough for medium/high at 1080p.
Okay thanks, and by 1080p do you mean for streaming?
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Edit: No, not for streaming.
Your graphics card has no bearing on streaming. It's all CPU based. Since you have a dual core, it won't be good for streaming while you play SC2.
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On January 06 2012 06:50 jacosajh wrote: Edit: No, not for streaming.
Your graphics card has no bearing on streaming. It's all CPU based. Since you have a dual core, it won't be good for streaming while you play SC2.
That's fine, I don't stream much anyways. Thanks for the help!
Also, do you think $699 is reasonable for the specs I posted. (brand new)
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core i5 2320 is a quad core >.>
1080p means 1920x1080, the resolution you play the game at. So if you are streaming at 1080p than you probably play the game at 1080p... or if you have a 21" to 24" monitor than you probably play 1080p.
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On January 06 2012 06:56 creamer wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 06 2012 06:50 jacosajh wrote: Edit: No, not for streaming.
Your graphics card has no bearing on streaming. It's all CPU based. Since you have a dual core, it won't be good for streaming while you play SC2. That's fine, I don't stream much anyways. Thanks for the help! Also, do you think $699 is reasonable for the specs I posted. (brand new)
No. $699 for that is terrible.
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Must be prebuilt. $100 more over a 6670 only makes sens to me if the 6670 is free
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On January 06 2012 06:56 skyR wrote: core i5 2320 is a quad core >.>
1080p means 1920x1080, the resolution you play the game at. So if you are streaming at 1080p than you probably play the game at 1080p... or if you have a 21" to 24" monitor than you probably play 1080p.
My eyes betray me. I saw i3 -_-
On January 06 2012 07:02 Medrea wrote:Must be prebuilt. $100 more over a 6670 only makes sens to me if the 6670 is free 
Wouldn't be that bad if it came with quality case/psu. But probably not likely since it comes with an HD 6670.
It's weird cause I have seen some decent pre-builts lately.
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I don't think it's that bad since it includes Windows. If there's no intention to be able to upgrade the system significantly later and if the power supply is not trash, then it's fine to me. Most generic ~300W OEM units aren't complete trash, though I'm not expecting any miracles here. What's the brand of the system? You're probably not going to find much about the power supply though, unfortunately.
CPU - $200 motherboard - $50 RAM - $35 graphics card - $80 -- but a graphics card to play very smoothly on low would only be around $50 hard drive - $80 (from current inflated prices) optical drive - $20 (well, between $15 and $20) chassis - $40 (or so) power supply - $30 (or so) Windows - $100
Even if you lowball the estimate or find a little better deals, it's still above $600 in costs. Under about 15% markup for a prebuilt is in the "not terrible" range I would say.
If you don't need Windows then it becomes pretty bad.
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when I play on my pc sometimes my monitor starts blinking like i'm tabbing out every half second. To make it stop i have to tab out like 1-3 times and then everything is fine. it seems like some windows programs take priority over sc2 and tries to get acces or something like that. i dunno much about computers.... any simple solution for this?
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Yeah it's prebuilt by dell but it's a special offer the PC is usually $850 but it's on sale for $699. Thanks everyone for the help
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On January 06 2012 07:10 Myrmidon wrote: I don't think it's that bad since it includes Windows. If there's no intention to be able to upgrade the system significantly later and if the power supply is not trash, then it's fine to me. Most generic ~300W OEM units aren't complete trash, though I'm not expecting any miracles here. What's the brand of the system? You're probably not going to find much about the power supply though, unfortunately.
CPU - $200 motherboard - $50 RAM - $35 graphics card - $80 -- but a graphics card to play very smoothly on low would only be around $50 hard drive - $80 (from current inflated prices) optical drive - $20 (well, between $15 and $20) chassis - $40 (or so) power supply - $30 (or so) Windows - $100
Even if you lowball the estimate or find a little better deals, it's still above $600 in costs. Under about 15% markup for a prebuilt is in the "not terrible" range I would say.
If you don't need Windows then it becomes pretty bad. 40$, 30$ for psu and case is completely unrealistic. Especially a 6670 prebuilt is not going to have those. It's probably going to be equivelant a 30-35$ case + psu combo as you don't need any PCIe cords. Also 2320 isn't 200$ wtf.
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2400 is $200, 2320 is $5 less. Welcome to Canada.
But you can just get equivalent parts and get NCIX to assemble for same price or lower so meh.
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Ya... Intel prices sort of went up after Bulldozer failed >.>
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A typical FSP, Hipro, or Delta-built marginally-in-spec-at-full-load type of power supply in an OEM Dell system should be significantly better than the Apevia or Logisys crap or a lot of other junk you find in any kind of case + power supply that's significantly under $70. Most OEM chassis in this price range are reasonably functional in terms of build quality and usually won't be that loud, unlike some of the lowest-budget stuff at retail. Layout is typically very unkind for future expansion, but I already mentioned that.
I would also take the equivalent parts from NCIX + assembly over that, but "terrible" implies getting totally ripped off, and is wandering into hyperbole.
But if I implied it was a decent deal, then that's my bad, since that's misleading.
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On January 06 2012 08:32 Myrmidon wrote: A typical FSP, Hipro, or Delta-built marginally-in-spec-at-full-load type of power supply in an OEM Dell system should be significantly better than the Apevia or Logisys crap or a lot of other junk you find in any kind of case + power supply that's significantly under $70. Most OEM chassis in this price range are reasonably functional in terms of build quality and usually won't be that loud, unlike some of the lowest-budget stuff at retail. Layout is typically very unkind for future expansion, but I already mentioned that.
I would also take the equivalent parts from NCIX + assembly over that, but "terrible" implies getting totally ripped off, and is wandering into hyperbole.
But if I implied it was a decent deal, then that's my bad, since that's misleading.
I don't follow, do you think $699 is a total ripp off?
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Because it comes with windows, IF it has a decent power supply, it wouldn't be that bad. The parts individually come to about ~$635 give or take if you were to build it yourself. ~$685 if you have NCIX build it for you.
If it's possible, you should just take the NCIX build though as you can get better warranties and individual components.
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