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creamer
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada128 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 21:48:34
January 05 2012 21:34 GMT
#621
Hi, simple question here

is the following good enough to run sc2 smoothly on low settings? all components seem fine to me and I like to play on low, just looking for a second opinion! thanks!

Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English
Intel® Core™ i5-2320 processor (6MB Cache, 3.0GHz)
8GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 4 DIMMs
500GB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache
ATI Radeon™ HD 6670

If the 6670 isn't good enough, i can get the 6770 for $100 more, but if it isn't worth it I'd rather not.

thanks!
sam
MKP - Best player of all time
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 05 2012 21:38 GMT
#622
Yes, 6670 is good enough for medium/high at 1080p.
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
January 05 2012 21:40 GMT
#623
If I'm understanding what you're saying, you're talking less of how much actual power will be used by the system at high overclocks, but rather on having a safety net / leeway for whatever reasons. Like efficiency and degradation.

But that's why we're about a high quality unit that you shouldn't have to worry about. For simplicities sake, if you have a high quality unit like the Capstone 450 and you're pulling 350W consistently (which is a worst case scenario since you will rarely have both CPU and GPU at max load individually, moreso at the same time), you're pretty safe.
creamer
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada128 Posts
January 05 2012 21:49 GMT
#624
On January 06 2012 06:38 skyR wrote:
Yes, 6670 is good enough for medium/high at 1080p.


Okay thanks, and by 1080p do you mean for streaming?
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jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 21:53:10
January 05 2012 21:50 GMT
#625
Edit: No, not for streaming.

Your graphics card has no bearing on streaming. It's all CPU based. Since you have a dual core, it won't be good for streaming while you play SC2.
creamer
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada128 Posts
January 05 2012 21:56 GMT
#626
On January 06 2012 06:50 jacosajh wrote:
Edit: No, not for streaming.

Your graphics card has no bearing on streaming. It's all CPU based. Since you have a dual core, it won't be good for streaming while you play SC2.


That's fine, I don't stream much anyways. Thanks for the help!

Also, do you think $699 is reasonable for the specs I posted. (brand new)
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 05 2012 21:56 GMT
#627
core i5 2320 is a quad core >.>

1080p means 1920x1080, the resolution you play the game at. So if you are streaming at 1080p than you probably play the game at 1080p... or if you have a 21" to 24" monitor than you probably play 1080p.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 05 2012 21:57 GMT
#628
On January 06 2012 06:56 creamer wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On January 06 2012 06:50 jacosajh wrote:
Edit: No, not for streaming.

Your graphics card has no bearing on streaming. It's all CPU based. Since you have a dual core, it won't be good for streaming while you play SC2.


That's fine, I don't stream much anyways. Thanks for the help!

Also, do you think $699 is reasonable for the specs I posted. (brand new)


No. $699 for that is terrible.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 05 2012 22:02 GMT
#629
Must be prebuilt. $100 more over a 6670 only makes sens to me if the 6670 is free
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jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 22:06:40
January 05 2012 22:05 GMT
#630
On January 06 2012 06:56 skyR wrote:
core i5 2320 is a quad core >.>

1080p means 1920x1080, the resolution you play the game at. So if you are streaming at 1080p than you probably play the game at 1080p... or if you have a 21" to 24" monitor than you probably play 1080p.


My eyes betray me. I saw i3 -_-

On January 06 2012 07:02 Medrea wrote:
Must be prebuilt. $100 more over a 6670 only makes sens to me if the 6670 is free


Wouldn't be that bad if it came with quality case/psu. But probably not likely since it comes with an HD 6670.

It's weird cause I have seen some decent pre-builts lately.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 22:12:39
January 05 2012 22:10 GMT
#631
I don't think it's that bad since it includes Windows. If there's no intention to be able to upgrade the system significantly later and if the power supply is not trash, then it's fine to me. Most generic ~300W OEM units aren't complete trash, though I'm not expecting any miracles here. What's the brand of the system? You're probably not going to find much about the power supply though, unfortunately.

CPU - $200
motherboard - $50
RAM - $35
graphics card - $80 -- but a graphics card to play very smoothly on low would only be around $50
hard drive - $80 (from current inflated prices)
optical drive - $20 (well, between $15 and $20)
chassis - $40 (or so)
power supply - $30 (or so)
Windows - $100

Even if you lowball the estimate or find a little better deals, it's still above $600 in costs. Under about 15% markup for a prebuilt is in the "not terrible" range I would say.

If you don't need Windows then it becomes pretty bad.
Vortigan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark306 Posts
January 05 2012 22:59 GMT
#632
when I play on my pc sometimes my monitor starts blinking like i'm tabbing out every half second. To make it stop i have to tab out like 1-3 times and then everything is fine. it seems like some windows programs take priority over sc2 and tries to get acces or something like that. i dunno much about computers.... any simple solution for this?
creamer
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada128 Posts
January 05 2012 23:01 GMT
#633
Yeah it's prebuilt by dell but it's a special offer the PC is usually $850 but it's on sale for $699. Thanks everyone for the help
MKP - Best player of all time
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 23:17:48
January 05 2012 23:17 GMT
#634
On January 06 2012 07:10 Myrmidon wrote:
I don't think it's that bad since it includes Windows. If there's no intention to be able to upgrade the system significantly later and if the power supply is not trash, then it's fine to me. Most generic ~300W OEM units aren't complete trash, though I'm not expecting any miracles here. What's the brand of the system? You're probably not going to find much about the power supply though, unfortunately.

CPU - $200
motherboard - $50
RAM - $35
graphics card - $80 -- but a graphics card to play very smoothly on low would only be around $50
hard drive - $80 (from current inflated prices)
optical drive - $20 (well, between $15 and $20)
chassis - $40 (or so)
power supply - $30 (or so)
Windows - $100

Even if you lowball the estimate or find a little better deals, it's still above $600 in costs. Under about 15% markup for a prebuilt is in the "not terrible" range I would say.

If you don't need Windows then it becomes pretty bad.

40$, 30$ for psu and case is completely unrealistic. Especially a 6670 prebuilt is not going to have those. It's probably going to be equivelant a 30-35$ case + psu combo as you don't need any PCIe cords. Also 2320 isn't 200$ wtf.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 05 2012 23:19 GMT
#635
2400 is $200, 2320 is $5 less. Welcome to Canada.

But you can just get equivalent parts and get NCIX to assemble for same price or lower so meh.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 23:24:21
January 05 2012 23:23 GMT
#636
So europe isnt the only place where the intel CPU prices all went up then? As I've seen that for 185

http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=1220120035Q&vpn=BX80623I52320&manufacture=INTEL

At least I'm still correct!
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 05 2012 23:25 GMT
#637
Ya... Intel prices sort of went up after Bulldozer failed >.>
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-05 23:33:43
January 05 2012 23:32 GMT
#638
A typical FSP, Hipro, or Delta-built marginally-in-spec-at-full-load type of power supply in an OEM Dell system should be significantly better than the Apevia or Logisys crap or a lot of other junk you find in any kind of case + power supply that's significantly under $70. Most OEM chassis in this price range are reasonably functional in terms of build quality and usually won't be that loud, unlike some of the lowest-budget stuff at retail. Layout is typically very unkind for future expansion, but I already mentioned that.

I would also take the equivalent parts from NCIX + assembly over that, but "terrible" implies getting totally ripped off, and is wandering into hyperbole.

But if I implied it was a decent deal, then that's my bad, since that's misleading.
creamer
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada128 Posts
January 05 2012 23:41 GMT
#639
On January 06 2012 08:32 Myrmidon wrote:
A typical FSP, Hipro, or Delta-built marginally-in-spec-at-full-load type of power supply in an OEM Dell system should be significantly better than the Apevia or Logisys crap or a lot of other junk you find in any kind of case + power supply that's significantly under $70. Most OEM chassis in this price range are reasonably functional in terms of build quality and usually won't be that loud, unlike some of the lowest-budget stuff at retail. Layout is typically very unkind for future expansion, but I already mentioned that.

I would also take the equivalent parts from NCIX + assembly over that, but "terrible" implies getting totally ripped off, and is wandering into hyperbole.

But if I implied it was a decent deal, then that's my bad, since that's misleading.


I don't follow, do you think $699 is a total ripp off?
MKP - Best player of all time
jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
January 05 2012 23:52 GMT
#640
Because it comes with windows, IF it has a decent power supply, it wouldn't be that bad.
The parts individually come to about ~$635 give or take if you were to build it yourself. ~$685 if you have NCIX build it for you.

If it's possible, you should just take the NCIX build though as you can get better warranties and individual components.
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