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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 05 2012 23:53 GMT
#641
You wouldn't be getting ripped off a lot, but it's definitely not the recommended option. As skyR suggested, one option is to just get pretty much the same thing, at a somewhat lower price, by just picking parts from NCIX and paying the $50 assembly fee. You get a whole system ready to go with a 1 year warranty by NCIX on top of individual warranties from the manufacturers of the individual parts, which is typically about 3 years.

Also if you're serious about just playing on low, you could save a little more by getting something worse than an HD 6670, and so on.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 05 2012 23:59 GMT
#642
(and you can pricematch and use weekly sales)
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creamer
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada128 Posts
January 06 2012 00:44 GMT
#643
+ Show Spoiler +
On January 06 2012 08:52 jacosajh wrote:
Because it comes with windows, IF it has a decent power supply, it wouldn't be that bad.
The parts individually come to about ~$635 give or take if you were to build it yourself. ~$685 if you have NCIX build it for you.

If it's possible, you should just take the NCIX build though as you can get better warranties and individual components.



okay, I'll look into this, thanks
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jacosajh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
2919 Posts
January 06 2012 00:55 GMT
#644
Do you need help picking parts on NCIX?
creamer
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada128 Posts
January 06 2012 02:43 GMT
#645
On January 06 2012 09:55 jacosajh wrote:
Do you need help picking parts on NCIX?


No thanks, I know how, I've used NCIX before
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Sablar
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden880 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 03:13:00
January 06 2012 03:05 GMT
#646
On January 06 2012 02:29 skyR wrote:
I realized he specified his intentions of overclocking. An 4.8Ghz 2500k is still going to draw less than 100w in your typical consumer situation and a 6950 overclocked is still going to draw around 200w or less in the same situations. Having both fully loaded at the same time is never going to happen for 99% of the people asking this sort of question.

So I don't see why you think a quality ~500w unit such as the Rosewill Capstone 450 is not a reasonable recommendation for such a configuration. If there were quality ~300w units that were reasonably priced than that would be what's recommended for the majority of non-overclocked single GPU configurations since the majority never exceed 200w.

Even for someone who can't do simple conversion, all the configurations except a GTX 590 and 6990 draw less than 500w under gaming and this is with an overclocked Sandybridge-E: [image loading]

Ok. Honestly I made a big mistake when I thought that efficiency was backwards.

I still stand by the opinion that high OC will require an equal margin but once admitted that stock speed systems will run well on significantly lower W. I don't really have more arguments on the matter.

With a decent budget and the knowledge that Ovi wants the best temperatures I think that it's not about lowest budget but best build and while the 450W Rosewell will do it it's nice with some margin still.

And no need to be so hostile about it.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 06 2012 03:10 GMT
#647
The power supply industry is built around marketing the idea that you aren't a man unless you have at least 750Watts of manhood inside your surging man-box.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 06 2012 03:52 GMT
#648
450w rosewill is going to have a margin of about 250w, how much do you need?

Do you think just because it's labeled as 450w it's a 450w unit?
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Grinkers
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan13 Posts
January 06 2012 12:54 GMT
#649
Does anybody know of a good ssh tunneling/proxy service to connect to the TW/KR SC2 servers with a better ping? I currently have very bad routing, and am having trouble finding tunneling service with SC2 support.

From Japan, normal pings to Korea are <80ms, but with Starcraft it's over 300ms because of bad routing.
Mago515
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States24 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 23:55:56
January 06 2012 23:52 GMT
#650
I've been playing around with the idea of getting my own internet connection so my family stops killing my speed throughout the day. What kind of up and down would I need in order to be able to stream at an OK quality? I don't plan on streaming often, but I figure if I set that as a goal for my internet speed, I won't have any problems doing anything else.

Any suggestions?


EDIT: I would also like to get my minecraft server up, so I would like a recommendation on internet speed needed for that.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 06 2012 23:55 GMT
#651
3mbps or higher should be okay for most streams, would suggest 5 or 10 for high quality 1080p though
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
January 07 2012 06:11 GMT
#652
I've been thinking lately, and with the rush of Christmas games especially (BF3, etc) I am wondering, is it worth it to upgrade from 2GB of RAM to 4 or more EVEN THOUGH I run 32-bit Windows and will cap at 3.25GB or whatever that bullshit is? Eventually I'll upgrade to 64 bit in the future probably, just a large lack of time with school going. I've just been feeling the crunch of having only 2 gig RAM lately, and thinking that even though I wouldn't get the FULL use out of 4GB+, going from 2 to 3.25 would still be a pretty significant performance increase.

Core2 Duo E6850 @ 3.00 GHz (2 CPUs)
GeForce GTX 560 Ti (recently installed, old one fried)
2GB RAM
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 07 2012 06:33 GMT
#653
Worth it? Well, considering it's like 9 dollars, it wouldn't hurt...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
jackdaleaper
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines1216 Posts
January 07 2012 07:37 GMT
#654
Does anyone have experience with FSP UPS? I was thinking of getting an APC one but they're very expensive here and the relatively affordable ones are refurbished and I'm not sure how reliable those are. Should I just save up for the APC UPS?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 07 2012 07:49 GMT
#655
No, but if it's cheaper, FSP is probably fine. They're a reasonably large company that does manufacturing and design for all kinds of power supplies, including computer power supplies, and their stuff is of reasonable quality for the price. I don't see why a UPS from them wouldn't be okay and meet the specs they advertise.
CarelessPride
Profile Joined March 2011
United States146 Posts
January 07 2012 09:01 GMT
#656
When I'm playing my sc2 would crash and every program would stop responding forcing me to restart the computer and everything would be fine again. Why is this happening? I have a AMD X4 840 and a 440 graphics card playing everything on low settings. When it crashes theres a really high pitch noise and theres screen tears. I dont have a air cooling in my computer but becasue i never overclock everything is around 30-50 degrees C execpt my motherboard which is around 60. What do you think the problem is?
Ovi
Profile Joined April 2010
164 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-07 10:06:07
January 07 2012 09:12 GMT
#657
When it comes to graphic card memory for sc2 and diablo3, is there a significant difference between 1 gb and 2 gb?
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
January 07 2012 10:11 GMT
#658
On January 07 2012 15:11 Duka08 wrote:
I've been thinking lately, and with the rush of Christmas games especially (BF3, etc) I am wondering, is it worth it to upgrade from 2GB of RAM to 4 or more EVEN THOUGH I run 32-bit Windows and will cap at 3.25GB or whatever that bullshit is? Eventually I'll upgrade to 64 bit in the future probably, just a large lack of time with school going. I've just been feeling the crunch of having only 2 gig RAM lately, and thinking that even though I wouldn't get the FULL use out of 4GB+, going from 2 to 3.25 would still be a pretty significant performance increase.

Core2 Duo E6850 @ 3.00 GHz (2 CPUs)
GeForce GTX 560 Ti (recently installed, old one fried)
2GB RAM

If you're using Win7, download the x64 version from microsoft and then reinstall --> reformat ---> type in your product key ---> choose a password ---> get whatever amount of ram you feel you need? it works fine like this...
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jackdaleaper
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines1216 Posts
January 07 2012 12:04 GMT
#659
On January 07 2012 16:49 Myrmidon wrote:
No, but if it's cheaper, FSP is probably fine. They're a reasonably large company that does manufacturing and design for all kinds of power supplies, including computer power supplies, and their stuff is of reasonable quality for the price. I don't see why a UPS from them wouldn't be okay and meet the specs they advertise.


Thanks! Will go for the FSP.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 07 2012 13:35 GMT
#660
On January 07 2012 18:12 Ovi wrote:
When it comes to graphic card memory for sc2 and diablo3, is there a significant difference between 1 gb and 2 gb?


No.
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