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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 06 2012 17:32 GMT
#4121
On September 06 2012 11:28 xsksc wrote:
Hi, I'm having a weird issue during League of legends/SC2 games, but I don't think it warrants it's own thread.
My game will be perfectly fine for about 10-15 seconds, then there is a few seconds where it laggs hard and nothing happens. Then I see all the abilities/movements a few seconds later when it's caught up. Then it's absolutely fine for another 15 seconds until it happens again.
My ping doesn't go above 60 ms during these spikes, and my core/gpu temps don't raise alarm bells either.

I've tried resetting the router, several times.
According to NetWorx, nothing is downloading in the background during these spikes..
I'm thouroughly confused. =/
What can I do to determine the problem?


You might have blown a hard drive motor or something. Try duplicating a really large file and see what happens.
twitch.tv/medrea
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
September 06 2012 17:41 GMT
#4122
On September 07 2012 02:32 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 11:28 xsksc wrote:
Hi, I'm having a weird issue during League of legends/SC2 games, but I don't think it warrants it's own thread.
My game will be perfectly fine for about 10-15 seconds, then there is a few seconds where it laggs hard and nothing happens. Then I see all the abilities/movements a few seconds later when it's caught up. Then it's absolutely fine for another 15 seconds until it happens again.
My ping doesn't go above 60 ms during these spikes, and my core/gpu temps don't raise alarm bells either.

I've tried resetting the router, several times.
According to NetWorx, nothing is downloading in the background during these spikes..
I'm thouroughly confused. =/
What can I do to determine the problem?


You might have blown a hard drive motor or something. Try duplicating a really large file and see what happens.

My biggest file, 40GB, is going at about 40 MB/second.
I've got a Seagate Barracuda 500gb 7200 hard drive.
What am I looking for that would indicate a problem with the hard drive?
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
September 06 2012 17:42 GMT
#4123
On September 07 2012 02:21 Rannasha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 01:38 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
What is better, HDMI or DVI? I intend on using my headphones for sound. I bought a monitor for a good deal but made one error in not checking for HDMI support. It doesn't have it, so I was wondering if I should return it for one that does have HDMI support or not. Is there a big noticable difference?


The DVI-D interface (there are different types of DVI) is directly compatible with HDMI. Image quality is the same. The main difference between DVI and HDMI for computer purposes is that HDMI can carry sound as well as video. There are other differences on the high-end fringe (stuff like 3D, very high resolutions, etc...). But for everyday purposes DVI-D and HDMI are interchangable.


I just built a computer that used a Sapphire Radeon 7850. Would that qualify as higher end or no? I just dont want to find out I paid for a monitor that can't display what I paid my computer to be able to do. Or are we talking specfic applications?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 17:53:24
September 06 2012 17:52 GMT
#4124
On September 07 2012 02:41 xsksc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 02:32 Medrea wrote:
On September 06 2012 11:28 xsksc wrote:
Hi, I'm having a weird issue during League of legends/SC2 games, but I don't think it warrants it's own thread.
My game will be perfectly fine for about 10-15 seconds, then there is a few seconds where it laggs hard and nothing happens. Then I see all the abilities/movements a few seconds later when it's caught up. Then it's absolutely fine for another 15 seconds until it happens again.
My ping doesn't go above 60 ms during these spikes, and my core/gpu temps don't raise alarm bells either.

I've tried resetting the router, several times.
According to NetWorx, nothing is downloading in the background during these spikes..
I'm thouroughly confused. =/
What can I do to determine the problem?


You might have blown a hard drive motor or something. Try duplicating a really large file and see what happens.

My biggest file, 40GB, is going at about 40 MB/second.
I've got a Seagate Barracuda 500gb 7200 hard drive.
What am I looking for that would indicate a problem with the hard drive?


Fluctuations in the write or read speed. Every 15 seconds.

Defragging actually is prob the best since that tests both.
twitch.tv/medrea
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 06 2012 17:58 GMT
#4125
Anybody own a Sapphire 7970GE?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202001

I dont know why manufacturers keep blocking vents with extra DVI ports of all things, thats the most douchebag thing you can do since no one uses DVI for multimonitor
twitch.tv/medrea
xsksc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1044 Posts
September 06 2012 17:59 GMT
#4126
Speed didn't fluctuate at all, is it worth taking the HDD out and having a look?
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 06 2012 18:05 GMT
#4127
No it isn't. Because I no longer think its hard drive related. I think you have a network problem. You might also have malware or something. Im not sure. Maybe someone can lend some thoughts?
twitch.tv/medrea
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 18:32:04
September 06 2012 18:23 GMT
#4128
On September 07 2012 02:58 Medrea wrote:
Anybody own a Sapphire 7970GE?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202001

I dont know why manufacturers keep blocking vents with extra DVI ports of all things, thats the most douchebag thing you can do since no one uses DVI for multimonitor


People still use monitors without DisplayPort or proper implementations of HDMI. Some need the bandwidth dual-link DVI can provide and lack a GPU with DisplayPort. From a PM I got, apparently people still use monitors that only accept VGI and only DVI-I is backwards compatible with VGI.

Its not like PC manufacturers are like Apple and willing to murder dying interfaces in the name of progress. Christ, some GTX560Tis had an actual VGA port.

Edit:
Sapphire has typically been solid as an AMD partner.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 20:13:34
September 06 2012 18:29 GMT
#4129
Yeah but why two of them? Plus the other two? That's just silly. The other ones dont have two and a full vent >.>

I have plenty of sapphires (5830), I just want to know if this one is good, blocked vent space matters though not as much for fan cards.
twitch.tv/medrea
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
September 06 2012 22:33 GMT
#4130
On September 07 2012 02:42 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 02:21 Rannasha wrote:
On September 07 2012 01:38 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
What is better, HDMI or DVI? I intend on using my headphones for sound. I bought a monitor for a good deal but made one error in not checking for HDMI support. It doesn't have it, so I was wondering if I should return it for one that does have HDMI support or not. Is there a big noticable difference?


The DVI-D interface (there are different types of DVI) is directly compatible with HDMI. Image quality is the same. The main difference between DVI and HDMI for computer purposes is that HDMI can carry sound as well as video. There are other differences on the high-end fringe (stuff like 3D, very high resolutions, etc...). But for everyday purposes DVI-D and HDMI are interchangable.


I just built a computer that used a Sapphire Radeon 7850. Would that qualify as higher end or no? I just dont want to find out I paid for a monitor that can't display what I paid my computer to be able to do. Or are we talking specfic applications?


You'll be fine. The image quality for the 2 standards is identical. If the monitor has a DVI connector and no HDMI, then you can make full use of the things via DVI.
Such flammable little insects!
Noam
Profile Joined September 2010
Israel2209 Posts
September 07 2012 06:25 GMT
#4131
Ever since getting a new computer with Windows 7 the Internet connection seems to disconnect for 5 seconds every hour or so. (Didn't get a chance to look into it too much, it just happened 3 times yesterday when I was messing around with the new computer).

Even though it is not a laptop I disabled the "windows can shut down this device for power saving" in the NIC device properties but it did not help.

Any ideas or suggestions ?
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 17:29:37
September 07 2012 17:29 GMT
#4132
On September 07 2012 07:33 Rannasha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 02:42 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On September 07 2012 02:21 Rannasha wrote:
On September 07 2012 01:38 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
What is better, HDMI or DVI? I intend on using my headphones for sound. I bought a monitor for a good deal but made one error in not checking for HDMI support. It doesn't have it, so I was wondering if I should return it for one that does have HDMI support or not. Is there a big noticable difference?


The DVI-D interface (there are different types of DVI) is directly compatible with HDMI. Image quality is the same. The main difference between DVI and HDMI for computer purposes is that HDMI can carry sound as well as video. There are other differences on the high-end fringe (stuff like 3D, very high resolutions, etc...). But for everyday purposes DVI-D and HDMI are interchangable.


I just built a computer that used a Sapphire Radeon 7850. Would that qualify as higher end or no? I just dont want to find out I paid for a monitor that can't display what I paid my computer to be able to do. Or are we talking specfic applications?


You'll be fine. The image quality for the 2 standards is identical. If the monitor has a DVI connector and no HDMI, then you can make full use of the things via DVI.


I dont really care about image quality. Give me the vent space.
twitch.tv/medrea
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 07 2012 17:33 GMT
#4133
On September 08 2012 02:29 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 07:33 Rannasha wrote:
On September 07 2012 02:42 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On September 07 2012 02:21 Rannasha wrote:
On September 07 2012 01:38 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
What is better, HDMI or DVI? I intend on using my headphones for sound. I bought a monitor for a good deal but made one error in not checking for HDMI support. It doesn't have it, so I was wondering if I should return it for one that does have HDMI support or not. Is there a big noticable difference?


The DVI-D interface (there are different types of DVI) is directly compatible with HDMI. Image quality is the same. The main difference between DVI and HDMI for computer purposes is that HDMI can carry sound as well as video. There are other differences on the high-end fringe (stuff like 3D, very high resolutions, etc...). But for everyday purposes DVI-D and HDMI are interchangable.


I just built a computer that used a Sapphire Radeon 7850. Would that qualify as higher end or no? I just dont want to find out I paid for a monitor that can't display what I paid my computer to be able to do. Or are we talking specfic applications?


You'll be fine. The image quality for the 2 standards is identical. If the monitor has a DVI connector and no HDMI, then you can make full use of the things via DVI.


I dont really care about image quality. Give me the vent space.


Another reason you should really wish EVGA did AMD cards, Mr Mining Medrea.

They sell aftermarket brackets with better airflow. And, of course, they're a huge fan of blowers.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 17:34:26
September 07 2012 17:34 GMT
#4134
On September 08 2012 02:29 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2012 07:33 Rannasha wrote:
On September 07 2012 02:42 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On September 07 2012 02:21 Rannasha wrote:
On September 07 2012 01:38 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
What is better, HDMI or DVI? I intend on using my headphones for sound. I bought a monitor for a good deal but made one error in not checking for HDMI support. It doesn't have it, so I was wondering if I should return it for one that does have HDMI support or not. Is there a big noticable difference?


The DVI-D interface (there are different types of DVI) is directly compatible with HDMI. Image quality is the same. The main difference between DVI and HDMI for computer purposes is that HDMI can carry sound as well as video. There are other differences on the high-end fringe (stuff like 3D, very high resolutions, etc...). But for everyday purposes DVI-D and HDMI are interchangable.


I just built a computer that used a Sapphire Radeon 7850. Would that qualify as higher end or no? I just dont want to find out I paid for a monitor that can't display what I paid my computer to be able to do. Or are we talking specfic applications?


You'll be fine. The image quality for the 2 standards is identical. If the monitor has a DVI connector and no HDMI, then you can make full use of the things via DVI.


I dont really care about image quality. Give me the vent space.


Time to start custom-designing mining 7970s with no monitor connections & more vent-space? Vast un-tapped market, I'm sure. Maybe a single VGA port off to the side.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 17:46:28
September 07 2012 17:44 GMT
#4135
On September 08 2012 02:34 MisterFred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 02:29 Medrea wrote:
On September 07 2012 07:33 Rannasha wrote:
On September 07 2012 02:42 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On September 07 2012 02:21 Rannasha wrote:
On September 07 2012 01:38 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
What is better, HDMI or DVI? I intend on using my headphones for sound. I bought a monitor for a good deal but made one error in not checking for HDMI support. It doesn't have it, so I was wondering if I should return it for one that does have HDMI support or not. Is there a big noticable difference?


The DVI-D interface (there are different types of DVI) is directly compatible with HDMI. Image quality is the same. The main difference between DVI and HDMI for computer purposes is that HDMI can carry sound as well as video. There are other differences on the high-end fringe (stuff like 3D, very high resolutions, etc...). But for everyday purposes DVI-D and HDMI are interchangable.


I just built a computer that used a Sapphire Radeon 7850. Would that qualify as higher end or no? I just dont want to find out I paid for a monitor that can't display what I paid my computer to be able to do. Or are we talking specfic applications?


You'll be fine. The image quality for the 2 standards is identical. If the monitor has a DVI connector and no HDMI, then you can make full use of the things via DVI.


I dont really care about image quality. Give me the vent space.


Time to start custom-designing mining 7970s with no monitor connections & more vent-space? Vast un-tapped market, I'm sure. Maybe a single VGA port off to the side.


Hahaha, there are some people who build really cheap waterblocks (like 20 dollars or something) because of bulk deals. I just dont like the blocked top tier vent because of principle at this point.

Let me tell you, when you have a quad GPU sandwich, that blocked vent x4 absolutely kills you in the heat department. I need hash rates. I dont need 4 display port, 4 HDMI, 8 DVI ports. Im not hooking up. Uh... 24 monitors? Is it?

By the way I just realized I quoted someone out of context. Whoops.
twitch.tv/medrea
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-07 18:23:29
September 07 2012 18:22 GMT
#4136
On September 08 2012 02:44 Medrea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2012 02:34 MisterFred wrote:
On September 08 2012 02:29 Medrea wrote:
On September 07 2012 07:33 Rannasha wrote:
On September 07 2012 02:42 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On September 07 2012 02:21 Rannasha wrote:
On September 07 2012 01:38 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
What is better, HDMI or DVI? I intend on using my headphones for sound. I bought a monitor for a good deal but made one error in not checking for HDMI support. It doesn't have it, so I was wondering if I should return it for one that does have HDMI support or not. Is there a big noticable difference?


The DVI-D interface (there are different types of DVI) is directly compatible with HDMI. Image quality is the same. The main difference between DVI and HDMI for computer purposes is that HDMI can carry sound as well as video. There are other differences on the high-end fringe (stuff like 3D, very high resolutions, etc...). But for everyday purposes DVI-D and HDMI are interchangable.


I just built a computer that used a Sapphire Radeon 7850. Would that qualify as higher end or no? I just dont want to find out I paid for a monitor that can't display what I paid my computer to be able to do. Or are we talking specfic applications?


You'll be fine. The image quality for the 2 standards is identical. If the monitor has a DVI connector and no HDMI, then you can make full use of the things via DVI.


I dont really care about image quality. Give me the vent space.


Time to start custom-designing mining 7970s with no monitor connections & more vent-space? Vast un-tapped market, I'm sure. Maybe a single VGA port off to the side.


Hahaha, there are some people who build really cheap waterblocks (like 20 dollars or something) because of bulk deals. I just dont like the blocked top tier vent because of principle at this point.

Let me tell you, when you have a quad GPU sandwich, that blocked vent x4 absolutely kills you in the heat department. I need hash rates. I dont need 4 display port, 4 HDMI, 8 DVI ports. Im not hooking up. Uh... 24 monitors? Is it?

By the way I just realized I quoted someone out of context. Whoops.


Clearly the correct solution is to invest in a dremel, remove the brackets from new cards, dremel out every scrap of excess metal, and de-solder the DVI ports.

I bet if they weren't coming out with those other thingies soon, you might try it, too.

Note to everyone who isn't Medrea: This is advanced, not suggested, and niche as fuck. Ignore it if you're not him.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 07 2012 18:26 GMT
#4137
I like warranties too dammit. What the hell!

Would even EVGA like me ripping the front apart with a dremel!?
twitch.tv/medrea
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
September 07 2012 18:28 GMT
#4138
On September 08 2012 03:26 Medrea wrote:
I like warranties too dammit. What the hell!

Would even EVGA like me ripping the front apart with a dremel!?


Assuming you bought the high flow bracket first, modified the high-flow, and were capable of re-soldering the DVI ports, I doubt they'd bat an eyelash, assuming you weren't dumb enough to tell them you did it.

I assume that would constitute physical damage, but if you did it with the aftermarket part, all you'd have to do is restore it to factory condition before shipping it in. And not mention soldering related antics.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
September 07 2012 18:36 GMT
#4139
It's next month by the way.

I should still be able to find work for my GPU's though. There is still a lot of work to be done cracking zip file passwords and the like. Temptation to liquidate is strong though.

So far Im lucky I havent woken up with a gun in my mouth.

http://blogs.computerworld.com/18335/bitcoin_miners_busted_police_confuse_bitcoin_power_usage_for_pot_farm

You can tell where this is going right from the URL.

According to the guy that got raided. The police asked him "So are you the google or something"

"Uh yeah something like that"
twitch.tv/medrea
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
September 07 2012 18:41 GMT
#4140
I have really low fps recently and wonder if anyone has a idea what to do. so here's my spec, i am running starcraft on medium settings.

Intel q6600 running at 4x2,7ghz
4GB DDR-2 Ram 800 on a asus p5q-pro 775
ATI Radeon HD 6870 with 1 GB ram
Realtek Onboard Sound, Creative x-fi extreme gamer Sound card
Windows 7 home premium 64-bit
Drivers are up to date.

When the game starts i have about 80 fps, dropping to 17-30 in big battles, and i think with my hardware i should be able to run the game with much more fps, i can't even stream the game on low because the fps then instantly drops to ~15.

I think this is related to one of the latest patches because i didn't experience any performance problems before.

Would be very nice if someone could help out,
Nyx
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