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Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
June 14 2012 11:45 GMT
#3141
This may or may not be a "simple question" but i don't think it deems its own thread, i'm currently running my i5 2500k @ 4.7ghz with a dynamic vcore of 0.09v. What kind of voltage am i looking at where i start to decrease the life of my CPU??
XXhkXX
Profile Joined June 2011
170 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 21:54:21
June 14 2012 21:42 GMT
#3142
EDIT: Whatever problem solved sorry! -_-
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-14 22:05:44
June 14 2012 22:04 GMT
#3143
On June 14 2012 20:45 Josh_rakoons wrote:
This may or may not be a "simple question" but i don't think it deems its own thread, i'm currently running my i5 2500k @ 4.7ghz with a dynamic vcore of 0.09v. What kind of voltage am i looking at where i start to decrease the life of my CPU??


There doesn't seem to be a clear and 100% accurate answer anywhere, but some of my research has indicated that starting around 1.36 - 1.38 with continuous high loads (folding) can degrade a chip. I can't seem to find the link now (thought I had it bookmarked) but it was somewhere on overclock.net. You can probably find reports from folders who overclocked their chips high.

As far as I can remember, no chips died but they increasingly required much higher voltages to remain stable at overclocks they were previously stable with lower Vcore.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 14 2012 22:47 GMT
#3144
Yeah, chip degradation for a CPU is way too complicated to model exactly. Sandy Bridge hasn't existed for long enough for people to have tested them for several years yet, and maybe not in your usage pattern. All you can figure out is how much is too much, within the span of several months, with certain workloads.

It really depends on how you're using the CPU and operating temperatures. If you have a 24/7 load, more electrons are passing through per day (and probably in higher temperatures), and you can expect problems to occur sooner, as opposed to normal desktop usage.

And of course there's non-trivial sample-to-sample variance. What happens for somebody else may not happen for you.
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
June 14 2012 23:05 GMT
#3145
How do i find out the default voltage of my chip? I'm assuming that + dynamic vcore = voltage right?
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
June 15 2012 13:24 GMT
#3146
Any reason CPU-Z would be saying my CPU is running at 3.49Ghz when I have it set at 3.2Ghz and Windows says its 3.2?
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 14:07:24
June 15 2012 14:01 GMT
#3147
On June 15 2012 22:24 iTzSnypah wrote:
Any reason CPU-Z would be saying my CPU is running at 3.49Ghz when I have it set at 3.2Ghz and Windows says its 3.2?
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Well, did you mess around in your BIOS at all? Try checking clock speed with another chunk of software? Maybe CoreTemp?

Of the two you show, I'd be expecting CPU-Z to be the one that's right. But a 291.2 FSB, 12x multi IS 3.49.

Something somewhere is wrong about the multi would be my best guess. Maybe double check it in BIOS.
BlackKiller
Profile Joined December 2011
58 Posts
June 15 2012 22:55 GMT
#3148
Hey I am about to order my compents from newegg and microcenter. I was just wondering if my compents will bottleneck at any point I m getting a Intel i5 2500k and 6670 radeon and asrock p67 atx motherboard if that maters.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
June 16 2012 00:19 GMT
#3149
On June 15 2012 23:01 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2012 22:24 iTzSnypah wrote:
Any reason CPU-Z would be saying my CPU is running at 3.49Ghz when I have it set at 3.2Ghz and Windows says its 3.2?
+ Show Spoiler +
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Well, did you mess around in your BIOS at all? Try checking clock speed with another chunk of software? Maybe CoreTemp?

Of the two you show, I'd be expecting CPU-Z to be the one that's right. But a 291.2 FSB, 12x multi IS 3.49.

Something somewhere is wrong about the multi would be my best guess. Maybe double check it in BIOS.

CoreTemp states 266x12 which is what I have it set at (3.2Ghz). Looks like CPU-Z is off.
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Zushen
Profile Joined June 2011
275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 01:25:34
June 16 2012 01:25 GMT
#3150
i tried to make an overlay for my stream in ms paint and when i went to apply it in xsplit it isnt transparent and shows the white background behind it. how do i fix it? http://i.imgur.com/jSDmh.jpg
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
June 16 2012 01:50 GMT
#3151
On June 16 2012 10:25 Zushen wrote:
i tried to make an overlay for my stream in ms paint and when i went to apply it in xsplit it isnt transparent and shows the white background behind it. how do i fix it? http://i.imgur.com/jSDmh.jpg


.jpg format does not support a transparent layer. Only .png or .gif format can do so.

Also, I don't believe that mspaint supports doing transparent layers. Though there are some free and open source options like inkscape that might let you do what it is you are trying to.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Zushen
Profile Joined June 2011
275 Posts
June 16 2012 01:55 GMT
#3152
On June 16 2012 10:50 TheToast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 10:25 Zushen wrote:
i tried to make an overlay for my stream in ms paint and when i went to apply it in xsplit it isnt transparent and shows the white background behind it. how do i fix it? http://i.imgur.com/jSDmh.jpg


.jpg format does not support a transparent layer. Only .png or .gif format can do so.

Also, I don't believe that mspaint supports doing transparent layers. Though there are some free and open source options like inkscape that might let you do what it is you are trying to.

can i just copy paste the image into the program or do i have to make it again?
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
June 16 2012 02:00 GMT
#3153
On June 16 2012 10:55 Zushen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 10:50 TheToast wrote:
On June 16 2012 10:25 Zushen wrote:
i tried to make an overlay for my stream in ms paint and when i went to apply it in xsplit it isnt transparent and shows the white background behind it. how do i fix it? http://i.imgur.com/jSDmh.jpg


.jpg format does not support a transparent layer. Only .png or .gif format can do so.

Also, I don't believe that mspaint supports doing transparent layers. Though there are some free and open source options like inkscape that might let you do what it is you are trying to.

can i just copy paste the image into the program or do i have to make it again?


Well if you were to utilize inkscape, you'd for sure have to completely remake it as inkscape is a vector graphics program. Technically you could copy it into something like photoshop and delete out the areas you want to be transparent, but going from a .jpg lossy format and recompressing into a .png format it going to look like shit pretty much. Unless you have it saved in .bmp format somewhere, I'd suggest redoing it.

If you do it in inkscape, you can save it in both a raster format (static pixles) like .png for use on your stream, and you can (and should) also save it in a vector format which can be resized to anything later and will still be high quality.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Zushen
Profile Joined June 2011
275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 03:32:48
June 16 2012 02:34 GMT
#3154
I dl'ed Inkscape and holy hell was it complicated and I couldnt really find what I was looking for (photo editing newbie here)
do you think Krita or PS express can do what I need? EDIT: PS express only supports JPG and krita only works on linux, Paint.NET had everything I needed and was super easy to use
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
June 16 2012 03:26 GMT
#3155
On June 16 2012 11:34 Zushen wrote:
I dl'ed Inkscape and holy hell was it complicated and I couldnt really find what I was looking for (photo editing newbie here)
do you think Krita or PS express can do what I need?


PS express probably can, Krita I have no idea but I would guess it probably can.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
June 16 2012 08:24 GMT
#3156
Isn't Inkscape specifically designed to deal with vectors? That's probably the wrong software to use.

Really though, I'm fairly sure GIMP can do transparent layers easy enough.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 16 2012 15:00 GMT
#3157
On June 16 2012 17:24 Womwomwom wrote:
Isn't Inkscape specifically designed to deal with vectors? That's probably the wrong software to use.

Really though, I'm fairly sure GIMP can do transparent layers easy enough.


GIMP is what I used for making transparent stuff when I was making a rainmeter theme. Free, not too difficult to learn, what's not to love?
Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
June 16 2012 15:55 GMT
#3158
Just a quick power question,

I'm currently running
2600k @ 4.5ghz 1.38v (Or 5ghz 1.55v depending on how crazy I am)
H100 closed loop (my temps are great but my chip sucks and needs massive amounts of voltage...)
GTX 680
ASrock Extreme3 Gen3
Xonar DG Sound Card
4 120mm fans total
keyboard/mouse/headset etc
Neo Eco 520c (480w on the 12v line)

I was wondering if I could power a 690 in my system instead of a 680. I saw that the Tom's setup had a 3960x at 4.5ghz in their power consumption testing for it, where it reached about 450w total system power draw during 3D mark.

I do a lot of streaming and I think I'd end up putting more load on the CPU than they did with 3D mark, although their CPU generally uses more power. I'm just not sure if I should bother trying or not.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
June 16 2012 16:18 GMT
#3159
GTX 690 should be okay. Why not just another GTX 680 though? Two 680s is actually getting to be too much for the Neo Eco 520C (though it may work fine in typical usage), but surely the cost of a better power supply and 680 is less than a 690?

So would you be streaming anything that would actually max out two GK104s? What's your monitor setup?
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 16:41:48
June 16 2012 16:40 GMT
#3160
I actually have a question that may or may not be simple. I have an ASRock Extreme3 Gen3 motherboard, but the audio "seems" to have died. I tried messing around with the cables, making sure that nothing is wrong with it, but it just doesn't have any audio. It won't output sound to my stream, it won't output anything to my headphones, and the front/back headphone jack stopped working correctly.

This was a few months ago, and I just cut my losses and bought a sound card, but I'm thinking about reevaluating my situation. Does anyone have an idea of where I should check/what I should check, or should I just use the sound card that I have? The main reason I don't want to use a sound card is cause it's PCI and PCI sound cards are absolute shit, at least from my experiences with them. Another issue I've gotten is that there's a slight humming from the graphics card that creates feedback with the sound card =/

Thanks for any responses.
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