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Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 18:36:39
June 16 2012 18:26 GMT
#3161
On June 17 2012 01:18 Myrmidon wrote:
GTX 690 should be okay. Why not just another GTX 680 though? Two 680s is actually getting to be too much for the Neo Eco 520C (though it may work fine in typical usage), but surely the cost of a better power supply and 680 is less than a 690?

So would you be streaming anything that would actually max out two GK104s? What's your monitor setup?


I have a single 2560x1440 but I can't quite play FFXIV with Quality 10 (double screen buffer, 5120x2880) and anything over 4xmsaa without getting near 30fps in certain areas and even down to 20 in others even when low populated.

If I did get a 690, I'd sell the 680 too so that a 690 would basically cost me $500 rather than another 680 (500) + a new PSU (60, although arguably I can sell the 520c and grab a new PSU for like $20 more).

I have a terrible internet connection so I'm only streaming at a 700kb upload, so I don't usually stream an MMO like that (since the text is hard to read at low resolutions but the macro blocking is ridiculous at high resolutions).

This is of course mostly speculation and I honestly probably won't shell out more than $1k total on just the GPU setup of my system... but it's fun to dream and think that I may someday work towards that 2nd 680 (or the 690) and upgrade.



edit: in other news, my H100 seems to be causing my temps to fluctuate. During the usual Prime95 run, my CPU will max at about 62c or so.. and stay that way for a good 5 minutes and go up to 72c for a few minutes then go back down to 62c. This may or may not have something to do with the "CPU fan speed" reading in HWMonitor going down to 0 randomly and going back to it's usual 2.1-2.2k rpm or so (this happens every 5 seconds), but I haven't found any direct relation with that and the core temp.


On June 17 2012 01:40 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
I actually have a question that may or may not be simple. I have an ASRock Extreme3 Gen3 motherboard, but the audio "seems" to have died. I tried messing around with the cables, making sure that nothing is wrong with it, but it just doesn't have any audio. It won't output sound to my stream, it won't output anything to my headphones, and the front/back headphone jack stopped working correctly.

This was a few months ago, and I just cut my losses and bought a sound card, but I'm thinking about reevaluating my situation. Does anyone have an idea of where I should check/what I should check, or should I just use the sound card that I have? The main reason I don't want to use a sound card is cause it's PCI and PCI sound cards are absolute shit, at least from my experiences with them. Another issue I've gotten is that there's a slight humming from the graphics card that creates feedback with the sound card =/

Thanks for any responses.


Which soundcard? My Xonar DG is on the bottommost PCI slot with my 680 at the top most slot and I haven't gotten any interference from the GPU. If your sound card is placed closer to your GPU try moving it down a few slots.

Theres nothing inherently wrong with a PCI sound card :p
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
June 17 2012 00:42 GMT
#3162
On June 17 2012 03:26 Nabutso wrote:
Which soundcard? My Xonar DG is on the bottommost PCI slot with my 680 at the top most slot and I haven't gotten any interference from the GPU. If your sound card is placed closer to your GPU try moving it down a few slots.

Theres nothing inherently wrong with a PCI sound card :p

Incorrect. An internally mounted sound card will get a lot of interference, period. As to how much you notice/dislike it, that varies from person to person. I also have a Xonar DG, and it's mounted on the furthest pci slot from my gpu, and the interference during heavy graphics loads can be quite annoying.

That being said my onboard chipset has roughly double the interference (of the DG) at varying gpu loads, and was also heavily affected by cpu loading (which I don't notice with the DG).
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 17 2012 00:57 GMT
#3163
On June 17 2012 09:42 Rollin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2012 03:26 Nabutso wrote:
Which soundcard? My Xonar DG is on the bottommost PCI slot with my 680 at the top most slot and I haven't gotten any interference from the GPU. If your sound card is placed closer to your GPU try moving it down a few slots.

Theres nothing inherently wrong with a PCI sound card :p

Incorrect. An internally mounted sound card will get a lot of interference, period. As to how much you notice/dislike it, that varies from person to person. I also have a Xonar DG, and it's mounted on the furthest pci slot from my gpu, and the interference during heavy graphics loads can be quite annoying.

That being said my onboard chipset has roughly double the interference (of the DG) at varying gpu loads, and was also heavily affected by cpu loading (which I don't notice with the DG).


I've got a Xonar DG that sits between GPUs without discernible audio interference. Granted, my high frequency hearing is shot, but my wife hasn't said anything about it either.

Some of it is going to be related to card model, internal frequencies, and phase of the moon, I'm sure. I've used some cheap internals that sucked donkey dick. That's why the DG is the only internal discrete sound card I suggest. Audiophiles should just be using external, and nobody else should be spending more than a DG costs on a cheapo sound card.
-iNko
Profile Joined August 2010
Lithuania160 Posts
June 17 2012 19:28 GMT
#3164
i5 2500k or i7 2600k for streaming HD quality?

Hey guys, im reading that performance between these two CPUs are almost the same, basically only difference is hyper-threading

Will i be able to stream games such as guildwars2 on best settings with i5 without lagging my pc or the stream, or do i need to get the i7?

Also i read that xsplit doesnt support hyper-threading, so i7 would be useless in this case?

Help please
ets_nsm
Profile Joined June 2011
United States38 Posts
June 17 2012 19:32 GMT
#3165
Is there a way to reduce mouse lag without checking it within the SCII settings?

I currently have a Razer Deathadder 3500
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-17 19:39:49
June 17 2012 19:39 GMT
#3166
On June 18 2012 04:28 -iNko wrote:
i5 2500k or i7 2600k for streaming HD quality?

Hey guys, im reading that performance between these two CPUs are almost the same, basically only difference is hyper-threading

Will i be able to stream games such as guildwars2 on best settings with i5 without lagging my pc or the stream, or do i need to get the i7?

Also i read that xsplit doesnt support hyper-threading, so i7 would be useless in this case?

Help please


If you're willing to OC, a 2500k should suffice for most things. Bloomfield with HT disabled for thermal headroom for higher clocks can handle a decent looking 720p stream at 3.8Ghz, and a 2500k is considerably faster clock for clock, and OCs higher easily.

According to R1CH's guide, Xsplit should benefit from HT, unless there's something bizarre going on internally.
UPDATE: The latest XSplit versions can now use multiple cores properly. There are other programs such as VLC (very difficult to setup) and Dynno (suffers from macroblock artifacting) but the two main programs most people will be looking at are XSplit and FME.


Granted, HT isn't extra physical cores, but I assume he would have made the distinction if it was there.

On June 18 2012 04:32 ets_nsm wrote:
Is there a way to reduce mouse lag without checking it within the SCII settings?

I currently have a Razer Deathadder 3500


Are you currently running Vsync? That can cause some wicked input lag.



Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
June 17 2012 19:58 GMT
#3167
What is a PSU that is high quality, modular, and can support two EAH 6850s, a 1090t x6 black thuban, and corsair h60?
Bakkendepao
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands185 Posts
June 17 2012 20:00 GMT
#3168
I have a problem with streaming, using FFsplit or XSplit, my cpu is a 2600k at 3.4ghz and I have crossfire'd 6850's providing my graphics. SC2 says its running at 100 (which is the amount I capped it to) but when I look at it through my eyes it looks like its 40-50, its not consistent and its very noticeable compared to when I have Xsplit disabled. I dont see any major peaks in my cpu activity and I just dont know what it is :X

I stream in 1280x720 @ 25 fps with 2000 bitrate, quality to 8 and preset fast. Does anybody know what this is and how i can help it?

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Ev0lution
Profile Joined October 2011
United States16 Posts
June 17 2012 21:50 GMT
#3169
Which mouse and why?

CM Storm Spawn - $35
SteelSeries Kinzu v2 Pro - $45
Razer Abyssus - $32
SteelSeries Kinzu regular - $20

I really like the Kinzu size and ambidextrous shape. But have read that the Abyssus has the better tracker, will I be able to tell that big of a difference? I've read good things about the CM Storm Spawn, but I'm hesitant because I have never felt it in my hands and it has a different non-ambidextrous shape. What is the best small fingertip gaming mouse for SC2 for around $40?
Nabutso
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
June 18 2012 00:48 GMT
#3170
On June 18 2012 05:00 Bakkendepao wrote:
I have a problem with streaming, using FFsplit or XSplit, my cpu is a 2600k at 3.4ghz and I have crossfire'd 6850's providing my graphics. SC2 says its running at 100 (which is the amount I capped it to) but when I look at it through my eyes it looks like its 40-50, its not consistent and its very noticeable compared to when I have Xsplit disabled. I dont see any major peaks in my cpu activity and I just dont know what it is :X

I stream in 1280x720 @ 25 fps with 2000 bitrate, quality to 8 and preset fast. Does anybody know what this is and how i can help it?



Was resolution do you play at? I get the same issue with a 2560x1440 monitor. Xsplit seems to have an issue capturing a large game screen, however changing the game res drastically improves performance (and no this isnt tied in with ym GPU, it's a 680, pretty sure it can run at 1440p maxed), and I've got a 2600k at 4.5ghz and the cpu usage is totally fine. I havent found a solution to this other than playing at a lower resolution, windowed. How terrible.
Jomz
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom117 Posts
June 18 2012 01:20 GMT
#3171
My computer specs are
550 Ti
G840 @ 2.8 ghz
4GB RAM

Are these spec's fine to start dual screening? Would only be playing films / tv / streams on the second monitor.

Thanks in advance love you.
I'm so badass I can unscramble eggs.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 18 2012 01:21 GMT
#3172
On June 18 2012 10:20 Jomz wrote:
My computer specs are
550 Ti
G840 @ 2.8 ghz
4GB RAM

Are these spec's fine to start dual screening? Would only be playing films / tv / streams on the second monitor.

Thanks in advance love you.


Yeah you're fine.
NachiMe
Profile Joined November 2011
250 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 01:58:12
June 18 2012 01:57 GMT
#3173
There`s something wrong with my computer I think. I have the asus g73jh which I got around two years ago. It was pretty high end back then. I've always played sc2 on low but today I tried to play it on high/ultra and something funny happened. My fps was actually pretty low I think (around 30 at the beginning of the game on cloud kingdom on ultra for most settings, and 40 on high). Is this normal? I thought my laptop was much better than that, but the numbers seem to contradict that. It handles skyrim really well so it's odd that sc2 gives it so much trouble.

I just reformatted my computer the day before
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
June 18 2012 02:00 GMT
#3174
On June 18 2012 10:57 NachiMe wrote:
There`s something wrong with my computer I think. I have the asus g73jh which I got around two years ago. It was pretty high end back then. I've always played sc2 on low but today I tried to play it on high/ultra and something funny happened. My fps was actually pretty low I think (around 30 at the beginning of the game on cloud kingdom on ultra for most settings, and 40 on high). Is this normal? I thought my laptop was much better than that, but the numbers seem to contradict that. It handles skyrim really well so it's odd that sc2 gives it so much trouble.

I just reformatted my computer the day before


Did you install all your drivers after reformatting? Update OS? Fix stupid shit like the power plan defaulting to "molasses"?
NachiMe
Profile Joined November 2011
250 Posts
June 18 2012 03:27 GMT
#3175
On June 18 2012 11:00 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 10:57 NachiMe wrote:
There`s something wrong with my computer I think. I have the asus g73jh which I got around two years ago. It was pretty high end back then. I've always played sc2 on low but today I tried to play it on high/ultra and something funny happened. My fps was actually pretty low I think (around 30 at the beginning of the game on cloud kingdom on ultra for most settings, and 40 on high). Is this normal? I thought my laptop was much better than that, but the numbers seem to contradict that. It handles skyrim really well so it's odd that sc2 gives it so much trouble.

I just reformatted my computer the day before


Did you install all your drivers after reformatting? Update OS? Fix stupid shit like the power plan defaulting to "molasses"?

yea i updated the drivers, updated os, nothing is wrong with my power plan
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 03:29:56
June 18 2012 03:29 GMT
#3176
On June 18 2012 12:27 NachiMe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 11:00 JingleHell wrote:
On June 18 2012 10:57 NachiMe wrote:
There`s something wrong with my computer I think. I have the asus g73jh which I got around two years ago. It was pretty high end back then. I've always played sc2 on low but today I tried to play it on high/ultra and something funny happened. My fps was actually pretty low I think (around 30 at the beginning of the game on cloud kingdom on ultra for most settings, and 40 on high). Is this normal? I thought my laptop was much better than that, but the numbers seem to contradict that. It handles skyrim really well so it's odd that sc2 gives it so much trouble.

I just reformatted my computer the day before


Did you install all your drivers after reformatting? Update OS? Fix stupid shit like the power plan defaulting to "molasses"?

yea i updated the drivers, updated os, nothing is wrong with my power plan


Did you format with the Asus disk? If so, you may have some nasty bloatware. Just to confirm, the issues started after the reformat?
NachiMe
Profile Joined November 2011
250 Posts
June 18 2012 03:40 GMT
#3177
On June 18 2012 12:29 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2012 12:27 NachiMe wrote:
On June 18 2012 11:00 JingleHell wrote:
On June 18 2012 10:57 NachiMe wrote:
There`s something wrong with my computer I think. I have the asus g73jh which I got around two years ago. It was pretty high end back then. I've always played sc2 on low but today I tried to play it on high/ultra and something funny happened. My fps was actually pretty low I think (around 30 at the beginning of the game on cloud kingdom on ultra for most settings, and 40 on high). Is this normal? I thought my laptop was much better than that, but the numbers seem to contradict that. It handles skyrim really well so it's odd that sc2 gives it so much trouble.

I just reformatted my computer the day before


Did you install all your drivers after reformatting? Update OS? Fix stupid shit like the power plan defaulting to "molasses"?

yea i updated the drivers, updated os, nothing is wrong with my power plan


Did you format with the Asus disk? If so, you may have some nasty bloatware. Just to confirm, the issues started after the reformat?

honestly I have no idea. Maybe it's just my laptop overheating. I'll shut it off for a while and try again.

I formatted with the f9 method.
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 05:50:52
June 18 2012 05:37 GMT
#3178
This problem is seriously pissing me off. I'm getting random freezes when I watch streams or play games. It freezes at most for 5 minutes and then return to normal. I've replaced the memory, a new psu, a new hard drive, and a new gpu. When I replaced the hard drive, I was so happy because I thought the problem went away. But the fucker came out of nowhere like a dormant herpes randomly waking up and saying hello world.

The culprit is now either the motherboard or replacing the thermal paste. Unless I've gotten unlucky again with the replaced parts. Then it's really FML. Any ideas people?
Without a paddle up shit creek.
lost_artz
Profile Joined January 2012
United States366 Posts
June 18 2012 09:45 GMT
#3179
I'm having an issue with my graphic card's driver. Everytime I boot my computer, includes restarts, my graphic card's driver seem to uninstall themself. If I open up my device manager it says that there's still a driver installed but basic things such as Aero will not work. I also have tried running Minecraft to compare FPS - 20-30 after boot vs 160-260 after updating the drivers after every time I boot PC. The only thing that's change between those two comparisons is installing the driver again.

to make things more confusing if I try running the Troubleshooter for Aero (before updating the driver) it will say that my Graphics card isn't compatible even though I know for a fact it is because Aero will work AFTER updating my driver.

Unfortunately to further make even matters worse this is happening to my PC I built last week.

System specs/parts
MOBO: ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M LGA 1155 Intel Z77
Graphics card: ASUS ENGTX550 Ti/DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 550
Processor: Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3
Harddrive (IDK if this matters: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB
PSU: CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650

Help is very much so appreciated. I need it lol. If you could also PM me a copy of any ideas you have I'd appreciate it as I may or may not see feedback posted here.
AJCpar
Profile Joined February 2012
United States32 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-18 14:20:59
June 18 2012 14:20 GMT
#3180
I'm planning to go to a SLI configuration for my computer with two GTX 670 graphics cards, and I was also planning to get an ASUS Xonar DX sound card as well. My question is if that will interfere with the SLI configuration of the graphics card. I will be using a ASRock Z77 Extreme4 Mobo for the SLI config, and I'm not sure if it will interfere.

Also to note, I am planning for those devices to be the only ones I'm using in the PCI slots.
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