EPTNew mouse: Razer Deathadder vs. Logitech MX518
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Axion12
11 Posts
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Goodseed
Korea (South)270 Posts
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Glueburn
United States496 Posts
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killamane
United States138 Posts
its aslo very customizable, as you can set your mouse specs however you want with a program that comes with the habu. out of 10, i rate the habu a 36 | ||
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EliteReplay
Dominican Republic913 Posts
overall its the Polling Rate. u cant change it on the MX518 | ||
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arcHoniC
United States141 Posts
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DarQraven
Netherlands553 Posts
Also, do you only play SC2 or also other stuff? For me, the Deathadder was the obvious choice because there is (or at least was) no other mouse with as high a malfunction- and perfect control speeds as the DA. It was important because I play arena shooters as well (Warsow, Quake, UT), and you need *very* fast mouse movements if you play those games on low sensitivity settings. Most mice would already start skipping or glitching at the speeds you play Quake at - including the MX518. Also, I couldn't stand the hard plastic feel of the 518. The shape was decent, but the material really was a dealbreaker. It feels cold and uncomfortable, because I tend to get clammy hands when playing. -- Really though, you can't go wrong with either mouse. The MX518 is more dependable I guess, but the Deathadder is the better performing mouse. Decide for yourself if you need that extra performance or are really rough with your mouse while playing (slamming it around on the mousepad, etc). HOWEVER, and I know you didn't ask about this: you really should just pick the mouse that fits your playstyle/hand best. Deathadder is a mouse that is perfectly suited for palm grip (putting your entire hand+palm on the mouse, moving from wrist/arm), while it is just a tad too large to be used as claw grip (using your fingers to push the mouse around, wrist is down on the mousepad). The MX518 is better suited to this claw-style. Just try one of them out in a store near you and see how it feels. | ||
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
HOWEVER, and I know you didn't ask about this: you really should just pick the mouse that fits your playstyle/hand best. Yup. This is more important than anything else. | ||
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
Thats just my two sense.. The main thing you wanna do is try them out. At least get a feel for them. A retail store like bestbuy may have ones out on display so you can determine if you would be able to use it comfortably or not. | ||
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Ryka
United Kingdom254 Posts
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Shockk
Germany2269 Posts
On March 08 2011 01:31 Axion12 wrote: Hey guys, I've been surfing around the forums here looking for advice on getting a new mouse. From what I've gathered, two relatively inexpensive and well-performing mice are the Razer Deathadder and the Logitech MX518. The logitech has lower dpi (400-1600) compared to the 3500 of the Deathadder but I've also heard that anything more than 1800 can actually be troublesome for RTS. I'd love to get everyone's opinion because I don't have too much knowledge on the topic myself. Thanks! I was about to write yet another rant about how people seem to be unable to use the search function to wade through the million mouse threads on this board, but then I realized it's useless. You won't check again after this thread has done what it's there for and others like you won't either (hence the recurrence of this issue again and again and again). So instead, I'll just comment on both mouse models and urge you to use the search function for future queries. For starters, check this thread which compares the Deathadder to the Logitech G5 and is basically the same, including me ranting about people not using the search function. Most important piece of advice: Try to get your hands on both of the mice (literally, i.e. check with a retailer) before buying one. The "feel" of a mouse is much more important than price, customization, drivers etc can ever be. Because if you're not comfortable with it, nothing else will make up for it. Deathadder vs. MX18 Make sure you know exactly what you want from a mouse. Precision? Should it be cheap? Macro controls? Customization? Ergonomic design? Light/Heavy/Customizable weigth? There's a ton of things to consider, so study the way you're currently using your mouse and find answers. Then check professional reviews (do not rely on amateur reviews á la "the Deathadder is the greatest mouse evar I'm so happy with it!!!11") Make sure you know how you hold your mouse. In the thread I linked and elsewhere on the web you'll find information about palm, claw, finger grip techniques. Check which one it is you're using, and judge if you'll be able to handle either mouse with it. The Deathadder for example sucks for claw grip, but is a perfect palm grip mouse. Misconceptions: - DPI settings aren't troublesome. You can either get used to higher DPI settings or you can throttle the value with the software/drivers. Don't worry about 3500 DPI messing up your control, won't happen My personal recommendation: If you're unsure, get the MX518. It's lighter, cheaper, is known to have less technical issues than the various Deathadder models and it's shape makes it better to use with other techniques than palm grip. | ||
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Greek820
Canada210 Posts
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sawedust
United States506 Posts
Are you a palm/claw gripper? Do you have large hands? Then either the DeathAdder or MX518 would be great for you. The DPI doesn't really matter, 1600 DPI and 1800 DPI is negligible when it comes to Starcraft II. For me personally, I play at 1800 DPI as 3500 is way too sensitive for my tastes on my DeathAdder. I'm also a claw gripper and the DeathAdder fits me well, despite the concerns that another mouse may be better suited for claw grippers such as myself. If you're a fingertip gripper, you might want to look elsewhere for a smaller and lighter mouse. Something like the Razer Salmosa would be perfect for Starcraft II. It's compact, light, and an overall great mouse. | ||
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Axion12
11 Posts
 @sawedust, I did have a slight concern that as nice as the deathadder is, it might not fit well with my claw grip as it seems to be more of a palm grip mouse, but it's nice to know that you have found it works even with that grip. Thanks again to everyone who has contributed! | ||
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Axion12
11 Posts
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sjschmidt93
United States2518 Posts
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Cadgers
United States514 Posts
It's very easy to change the DPI with or without drivers for both mice but just because a mouse can use that DPI, i.e 3500 doesn't mean you have to use it. Just pick the DPI that you feel comfortable with. Also, the new all black Deathadder is really slick looking. | ||
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Phayze
Canada2029 Posts
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politik
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
If you run the game at the lowest resolution possible, you will not need high DPI. If you run the game at a very high (2MegaPixel+) resolution, you would probably want high DPI. Aside from that, there's also persnoal sensitivity preference. I am running at 1600x1200, which is quite high resolution, and my mouse's maximum sensitivity of 2000 DPI barely does/doesn't cut it for me. I can live with 2000 DPI, but it's just too low for me. I would say if you just want a very basic mouse with improved DPI, go for the deathadder — mx518 seems too low DPI for now-a-days unless you still run programs and games at low resolution, and continue to plan on doing so for the entire time you have the mouse for. | ||
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