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Boblhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2577 Posts
November 28 2011 19:07 GMT
#381
On November 29 2011 03:05 Eisregen wrote:
Hey hey everybody! I just started to try out streaming and so far everything is working wonderful.
I only got a minor question concerning the add screen region feature. I am on a res of 1680*1050 and I want xsplit to use only 1400*1050 of the screen so I have 200px for priv. chats as I dont have a 2nd monitor yet.

Everytime I assign the 1400*1050 xsplit edits it into 1680*1050
Is there any possbility?

Thx a lot already =)



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225200

just use this, it hides the programs you want so they don't show up on your stream, and only show up on your desktop for you.
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
November 28 2011 21:24 GMT
#382
On November 29 2011 03:05 Eisregen wrote:
I am on a res of 1680*1050 and I want xsplit to use only 1400*1050 of the screen so I have 200px for priv. chats as I dont have a 2nd monitor yet.

You can crop your screen region - right click it and set it up.
Free to do whatever I want!
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
November 28 2011 22:13 GMT
#383
On November 29 2011 06:24 HellGreen wrote:
You can crop your screen region - right click it and set it up.

Tried that already, the screen size is locked (grey) and I cant change it.
Photo-Noob@ http://www.flickr.com/photos/eisregen1983/
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
November 29 2011 02:32 GMT
#384
On November 29 2011 07:13 Eisregen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 06:24 HellGreen wrote:
You can crop your screen region - right click it and set it up.

Tried that already, the screen size is locked (grey) and I cant change it.


I'm talking about the "cropping" feature in the "Position" tab. Make sure your scene is not locked (see same tab). You are supposed to be able to crop scene regions, so if you can't you might want to re-create yours (maybe even the presentation).
Free to do whatever I want!
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 15:29:28
November 29 2011 15:25 GMT
#385
On November 29 2011 11:32 HellGreen wrote:
I'm talking about the "cropping" feature in the "Position" tab. Make sure your scene is not locked (see same tab). You are supposed to be able to crop scene regions, so if you can't you might want to re-create yours (maybe even the presentation).


Ah now I get you. Tried it and it crashes Xsplit for me :D I am going with the StreamPrivacy meantioned earlier and it is working pretty reliable. Thx both of you for the help =)

I have another problem now: The microphpone. Does Xsplit have a background noise suppression? (as I never had that problem via skype/teamspeak)

I am using an Asus Xonar D1 PCI on a MSI 770 C45 Board and if I monitor the Mic sound I got a horrbile background noise with the mic-boost on (which is not adjustable, just on/off). Like a constant buzzing in the background. If I turn the mic boost off the background noise is gone but my mic is really low and one can barely hear me.

If I use the onboardsound (was always disabled in bios so far), I can adjust the boost from 0-10-20-30. 10 still gives me the background noise (sure it boosts it) but it is on an acceptable level when not talking or playing music.

I tried 2 headsets on both sound devices and the result was the same.
Soundcard: buzzing with micboost on. No buzzung but low volume without (volume level on 100)
Onboard: buzzing with boost on, gets lower with lower boost. Boost off, no buzzing but too low on volume.

First I thought my boxes where interfering and not shielded good enough, but even with directly plugged in headsets, there wont be a change.

I know hardware like the CPU, gpu even the PSU can cause eletrical interference or when the case isnt grounded properly.

It appears mostly when there is no talking/music, didnt observe sth. special when starting games etc.

How do you guys handle it, if you have a similar problem and does anyone know a way to adjust the boost volume with an Asus Xonar D1?
Photo-Noob@ http://www.flickr.com/photos/eisregen1983/
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
November 29 2011 19:54 GMT
#386
On November 30 2011 00:25 Eisregen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 11:32 HellGreen wrote:
I'm talking about the "cropping" feature in the "Position" tab. Make sure your scene is not locked (see same tab). You are supposed to be able to crop scene regions, so if you can't you might want to re-create yours (maybe even the presentation).


Ah now I get you. Tried it and it crashes Xsplit for me :D I am going with the StreamPrivacy meantioned earlier and it is working pretty reliable. Thx both of you for the help =)

I have another problem now: The microphpone. Does Xsplit have a background noise suppression? (as I never had that problem via skype/teamspeak)
+ Show Spoiler +

I am using an Asus Xonar D1 PCI on a MSI 770 C45 Board and if I monitor the Mic sound I got a horrbile background noise with the mic-boost on (which is not adjustable, just on/off). Like a constant buzzing in the background. If I turn the mic boost off the background noise is gone but my mic is really low and one can barely hear me.

If I use the onboardsound (was always disabled in bios so far), I can adjust the boost from 0-10-20-30. 10 still gives me the background noise (sure it boosts it) but it is on an acceptable level when not talking or playing music.

I tried 2 headsets on both sound devices and the result was the same.
Soundcard: buzzing with micboost on. No buzzung but low volume without (volume level on 100)
Onboard: buzzing with boost on, gets lower with lower boost. Boost off, no buzzing but too low on volume.

First I thought my boxes where interfering and not shielded good enough, but even with directly plugged in headsets, there wont be a change.

I know hardware like the CPU, gpu even the PSU can cause eletrical interference or when the case isnt grounded properly.

It appears mostly when there is no talking/music, didnt observe sth. special when starting games etc.

How do you guys handle it, if you have a similar problem and does anyone know a way to adjust the boost volume with an Asus Xonar D1?


Yeah, I know what you mean. The boost feature will always induce static noise, that's normal, and you've already covered why with mentioning EMC/electronic interference. There is no filter in XSplit, but there is in Windows 7. Goto Recording Devices, select your Mic and chose Proporties, select the "Enhancements" tab and enable the three choices ("DC Offset Cancellation", "Noise Suppression", "Acoustic Echo Cancellation"). After 1-2 seconds the background noise should disappear. Note these enhancements may not be available on all devices (they are not on "Line-In") and may also depend on drivers (I have a Realtek onboard sound board).
Free to do whatever I want!
Grokken
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden245 Posts
November 29 2011 20:19 GMT
#387
[image loading]
CPU: i7 920 2667GHZ
GPU : Radeon HD 5870
RAM : 6GB
HDD : 1TB

Ingame resolution: 1920x1080

Streaming resolution: 1280x720
Streaming FPS: 30
General : Let XSplit disable Aero theme [checked]
Make XSplit a layered window [unchecked]
Enable Skype Interaction [unchecked]
Microphone : Line in(SoundMAX Integrated Di
Channels : JustinTV - http://sv.justin.tv/grokken
Location : Main Origin Cluster
Video Encoding
Quality : 6
VBV Max Bitrate (kbps) : 4000
VBV Buffer (kbit) : 4000
Resolution : Default Stage Resolution
Audio Encoding
Format : 44.100 KHz 16bit Stereo
Codec : MP3
Bitrate: 64000

Screen region settings: 1920x1080 (entire left monitor)
Capture layered windows[unchecked]
Optimize for non-motion picture[unchecked]
Optimize text resize[unchecked]



Ingame FPS drops from 200+ to 20-40 as soon as i create a screen region. If I try to stream it is also really choppy even more so than it is ingame. CPU usage is below 40% at all times. Same thing with ram. Changing ingame resolution to 1280x120 helps somewhat, but there are still issues. I've tried checking and unchecking every possible setting, played around with bitrates, resolutions, quality, locations, etc.
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 00:00:49
November 29 2011 23:34 GMT
#388
On November 30 2011 05:19 Grokken wrote:
CPU: i7 920 2667GHZ
Streaming resolution: 1280x720
Streaming FPS: 30
Location : Main Origin Cluster
VBV Max Bitrate (kbps) : 4000
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
GPU : Radeon HD 5870
RAM : 6GB
HDD : 1TB

Ingame resolution: 1920x1080

General : Let XSplit disable Aero theme [checked]
Make XSplit a layered window [unchecked]
Enable Skype Interaction [unchecked]
Microphone : Line in(SoundMAX Integrated Di
Channels : JustinTV - http://sv.justin.tv/grokken
Video Encoding
Quality : 6
VBV Buffer (kbit) : 4000
Resolution : Default Stage Resolution
Audio Encoding
Format : 44.100 KHz 16bit Stereo
Codec : MP3
Bitrate: 64000

Screen region settings: 1920x1080 (entire left monitor)
Capture layered windows[unchecked]
Optimize for non-motion picture[unchecked]
Optimize text resize[unchecked]

Ingame FPS drops from 200+ to 20-40 as soon as i create a screen region. If I try to stream it is also really choppy even more so than it is ingame. CPU usage is below 40% at all times. Same thing with ram. Changing ingame resolution to 1280x120 helps somewhat, but there are still issues. I've tried checking and unchecking every possible setting, played around with bitrates, resolutions, quality, locations, etc.


Thanks. I have very similar hardware and I can tell you from experience, that it's very very difficult to run a 720p on that CPU. You have two options:
a) Use a 3rd party capture driver such as DXTory or SCFH. I believe you already tried DXTory and while it works, you didn't want to buy it to remove the watermark. Maybe give SCFH a shot then: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=230865
b) OC your CPU

Some minor tweaks that I would do:
Set location to either Amsterdam or London (if you don't have them see http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12222283)
Change bitrate to match the maximum bandwidth you have available. Use the "Bandwidth test" button (see http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12518978).
Set preset to "fast" to get a lot better quality and utilize your CPU more (it will go to +85% on "fast").
Set quality to 10.
Set audio bitrate to 128.000 or higher for better audio quality.
Free to do whatever I want!
Eisregen
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany967 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-29 23:52:57
November 29 2011 23:51 GMT
#389
On November 30 2011 04:54 HellGreen wrote:


Yeah, I know what you mean. The boost feature will always induce static noise, that's normal, and you've already covered why with mentioning EMC/electronic interference. There is no filter in XSplit, but there is in Windows 7. Goto Recording Devices, select your Mic and chose Proporties, select the "Enhancements" tab and enable the three choices ("DC Offset Cancellation", "Noise Suppression", "Acoustic Echo Cancellation"). After 1-2 seconds the background noise should disappear. Note these enhancements may not be available on all devices (they are not on "Line-In") and may also depend on drivers (I have a Realtek onboard sound board).


I didnt had those options neither on the ASUS nor the Onboard, searched the Realtek drivers and what happens? the noise suppression is there =)

So guess I will use the onboard for my mic and my soundcard for the music etc. A bit annoying unplugging etc but well, shit happens!
Photo-Noob@ http://www.flickr.com/photos/eisregen1983/
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-17 01:37:58
November 30 2011 00:00 GMT
#390
Important addition to XSplit: The Bandwidth Test button

Edit: This feature is only available to subscribers (personal/premium licence required) - sorry.
Edit: I'm getting contradicting statements on the above. Seems like XSplit switches it on/off for free users atm. Use it if you can =)

Please take note of this, as this will help you immensely when trying to tweak your bitrate settings:

*)
How to measure your bandwidth in XSplit:
a) Important: Configure your settings (especially "Location"), load up a game, ie. SC2, and run an 200/200 action-packed replay
b) Click the button

[image loading]

c) Adjust your combined video+audio bitrate to what the test tells you is your maximum bandwidth to the selected server.
For more information read this: http://www.xsplit.com/broadcaster/help/index.html?bandwidth_tester_guide.htm

[image loading]
+ Show Spoiler +

Obsolete information since XSplit sent out latest beta version:
Note - if you don't have the 'bandwidth test' button, it's because XSplit hasn't released it yet. If you want the latest (beta of the beta), login with username: tier3@xsplit.com / password: update. It's perfectly okay to do, but I must tell you not to report bugs on XSplit forums and please note it's not released for a reason .

Ps. If anybody quotes this post, please put the pictures in a spoiler - thanks.
Free to do whatever I want!
Grokken
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden245 Posts
November 30 2011 01:04 GMT
#391
On November 30 2011 08:34 HellGreen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2011 05:19 Grokken wrote:
CPU: i7 920 2667GHZ
Streaming resolution: 1280x720
Streaming FPS: 30
Location : Main Origin Cluster
VBV Max Bitrate (kbps) : 4000
+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]
GPU : Radeon HD 5870
RAM : 6GB
HDD : 1TB

Ingame resolution: 1920x1080

General : Let XSplit disable Aero theme [checked]
Make XSplit a layered window [unchecked]
Enable Skype Interaction [unchecked]
Microphone : Line in(SoundMAX Integrated Di
Channels : JustinTV - http://sv.justin.tv/grokken
Video Encoding
Quality : 6
VBV Buffer (kbit) : 4000
Resolution : Default Stage Resolution
Audio Encoding
Format : 44.100 KHz 16bit Stereo
Codec : MP3
Bitrate: 64000

Screen region settings: 1920x1080 (entire left monitor)
Capture layered windows[unchecked]
Optimize for non-motion picture[unchecked]
Optimize text resize[unchecked]

Ingame FPS drops from 200+ to 20-40 as soon as i create a screen region. If I try to stream it is also really choppy even more so than it is ingame. CPU usage is below 40% at all times. Same thing with ram. Changing ingame resolution to 1280x120 helps somewhat, but there are still issues. I've tried checking and unchecking every possible setting, played around with bitrates, resolutions, quality, locations, etc.


Thanks. I have very similar hardware and I can tell you from experience, that it's very very difficult to run a 720p on that CPU. You have two options:
a) Use a 3rd party capture driver such as DXTory or SCFH. I believe you already tried DXTory and while it works, you didn't want to buy it to remove the watermark. Maybe give SCFH a shot then: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=230865
b) OC your CPU

Some minor tweaks that I would do:
Set location to either Amsterdam or London (if you don't have them see http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12222283)
Change bitrate to match the maximum bandwidth you have available. Use the "Bandwidth test" button (see http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12518978).
Set preset to "fast" to get a lot better quality and utilize your CPU more (it will go to +85% on "fast").
Set quality to 10.
Set audio bitrate to 128.000 or higher for better audio quality.


Did the banwidth test, gave me 4049 kbps.
Setting preset to fast didnt do much but if i set it to medium it takes up a lot of cpu.
I don't think the problem lies with the actual streaming, must have something to do with the video capturing, as my fps drops as soon as I select a screen region. It doesn't matter if i stream at 720p or 640x360, I get the same fps regardless. Also, why do I get so low fps when the cpu isnt even fully used?

Tried scfh and it only lets me record in 320x180, and lags even more than xsplit.


HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 01:53:37
November 30 2011 01:52 GMT
#392
On November 30 2011 10:04 Grokken wrote:
[...]
a) I don't think the problem lies with the actual streaming, must have something to do with the video capturing, as my fps drops as soon as I select a screen region. It doesn't matter if i stream at 720p or 640x360, I get the same fps regardless.
b) Also, why do I get so low fps when the cpu isnt even fully used?

c) Tried scfh and it only lets me record in 320x180, and lags even more than xsplit.


To answer the above.
a) Did you already try to make a new "Presentation" in XSplit. This has helped me before in that situation. Secondly make absolutely sure Windows Aero is disabled (you might want to change your theme into "Basic"). Thirdly minimize XSplit. In each step take note of the FPS.
b) Because the capture driver in XSplit is not fully optimized - it's unable to use the power of the CPU and being hindered/blocked by something (most likely inefficient software coding or the layer in Windows that handles graphics). This is also why we love DXTory so much, because it is way more efficient. Also keep in mind that XSplit isn't released yet - it may yet be improved. They already announced the GameSource (alternate built-in capture driver) feature which last time I checked was available to paying customers only. Though this also still need work to compete with DXTory.
c) That's weird. Both statements actually. Something indicates it's not set up right then. Don't give up yet.

With your CPU (i7 920) it is extremely difficult to get a decent 720p stream with ingame FPS above 20 without using DXTory.
Free to do whatever I want!
jw232
Profile Joined January 2009
United States157 Posts
November 30 2011 02:00 GMT
#393
For some reason my stream is delayed. I can see it's streaming perfectly fine with no delay at http://www.justin.tv/home?broadcast=true but on my actual stream channel at http://www.justin.tv/jw232 (just an example) it's delayed by a few seconds. Is this normal?
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 02:22:43
November 30 2011 02:21 GMT
#394
On November 30 2011 11:00 jw232 wrote:
For some reason my stream is delayed. I can see it's streaming perfectly fine with no delay at http://www.justin.tv/home?broadcast=true but on my actual stream channel at http://www.justin.tv/jw232 (just an example) it's delayed by a few seconds. Is this normal?


Yes. A few seconds is what is takes the data to reach Twitch.tv and return to your browser. Perfectly normal and cannot be changed (to be specific, you can prolong the delay, but not shorten it).
Free to do whatever I want!
jw232
Profile Joined January 2009
United States157 Posts
November 30 2011 17:53 GMT
#395
I notice some streams have video quality options like 240p, 360p, 480p, Best, but mine doesn't. How do I get those options to appear?
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
November 30 2011 18:29 GMT
#396
On December 01 2011 02:53 jw232 wrote:
I notice some streams have video quality options like 240p, 360p, 480p, Best, but mine doesn't. How do I get those options to appear?

Become a partner with Twitch.tv. There are requirements you need to meet though. See here http://www.twitch.tv/partner/signup
Free to do whatever I want!
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-01 00:31:25
December 01 2011 00:25 GMT
#397
When I updated it to the tier3, I'm getting this Notice pop up that just loads and sooner or later it says Navigation was cancelled...Refresh this page. I couldn't close notice and when I clicked refresh this page, it did nothing. Now I can't even use xsplit.

Edit: nevermind...fixed it
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
December 04 2011 05:04 GMT
#398
I installed xsplit on my new comp that I got yesterday and when I try to install the broadcast plugin for Justin.tv/twitch.tv

I get this error when trying to add the channel:

Content was blocked because it was not signed by a valid security certificate.

For more information, see "About Certificate Errors" in Internet Explorer Help.



I looked for the answer but can't really find the solution
HellGreen
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark1146 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-04 15:54:10
December 04 2011 15:53 GMT
#399
On December 04 2011 14:04 .kv wrote:
I installed xsplit on my new comp that I got yesterday and when I try to install the broadcast plugin for Justin.tv/twitch.tv
I get this error when trying to add the channel:
Content was blocked because it was not signed by a valid security certificate.
For more information, see "About Certificate Errors" in Internet Explorer Help.

I looked for the answer but can't really find the solution


I can't help you either. Remember if you're still on the tier3 version, these sort of things might happen. Try re-installing to latest released version :/
It might be a temporary problem if they are updating their certificates or something.
Free to do whatever I want!
FaRMor
Profile Joined March 2011
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 23:20:56
December 10 2011 22:41 GMT
#400
Hey TL!

Wonder if any nice guy could help me with setting Xsplit.

[image loading]

My Spec:

CPU: Phenom II 955 3.8ghz
RAM: 8 GB
GPU: 5770 XXX crossfire
Monitor Size: 1920x1080

I have test some few option on Xsplit and i didnt find any good one but The setting i have now is:

Streaming resolution: 1088x612
Streaming FPS: 20
Location : Default
Quality : 7
VBV Max Bitrate (kbps) : 500
VBV Buffer (kbit) : 700
Resolution : Default Stage Resolution
Format : 22.050 KHz 16bit Stereo
Codec : AAC LC
Bitrate: 32000

when i have this setting it gets really bad quallty bud i runs smooth.
what wrong to low bitrate or just to high Resolution?

Btw frist post on Teamliquid ! yeeah

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