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On September 28 2010 05:21 Huko wrote:Exact same problem here  Don't want to make another thread or take this one over but if anyone is willing to maybe help me as well, shoot me a PM!
You could maybe post your computer specs here, dont worry about taking it over
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Alright thanks a bunch
Desktop 64bit vista home, AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ 2.60GHz 6.00 RAM, EVEA Geforce 9400 GT 1GB DDR2 (just copying off of box )
I basically have exactly same problem. Have a birthday coming up so was hoping to get something to help it out! (if its inexpensive) Also power settings are on balanced.
Do not know much about computers but did this reliability test and this is a screenshot from when I could barely move during a game. + Show Spoiler +
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On September 28 2010 05:49 Huko wrote:Alright thanks a bunch  Desktop 64bit vista home, AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+ 2.60GHz 6.00 RAM, EVEA Geforce 9400 GT 1GB DDR2 (just copying off of box  ) I basically have exactly same problem. Have a birthday coming up so was hoping to get something to help it out! (if its inexpensive) Also power settings are on balanced. Do not know much about computers but did this reliability test and this is a screenshot from when I could barely move during a game. + Show Spoiler +
Could you try setting it to High Performance mode, and trying it out that way, then getting back to us if it got any better? I'd try it, but I still have the game uninstalled, and didn't yet have time to reinstall it.
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I'm running a laptop too. My specs:
AMD QL-60 Dual Core 4GB ATI Radeon 3100 Vista HP
I can run the game only on absolute lowest settings with all details turned off in order to get a workable framerate. When the action bogs down, graphical details disappear (marine muzzle flashes stop showing up) and the frames chunk down pretty severely. Also, because of the graphical chunk, sometimes my mouse commands don't go through (the "box" to select units will not draw, for instance). The heavily rendered cinematics in the game are unwatchable and I've had to skip them.
My card is integrated with only 256mb of standalone memory. The rest it borrows from the RAM, which reduces my RAM down to 2GB during play. I think I'm barely scraping the minimum required to play this game, but I was wondering if there was anything I could do to increase performance? I'm surprised that the laptop players have gotten such good results--I'd love to play this game on medium settings or at least have animated portraits turn on (!).
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No, other laptop players just have much better specs, sorry. The CPU is a problem, but what's more important is that the GPU is a disaster. It's not so much video memory as much as not having enough physical computational units to render the game properly with playable frame rates.
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I don't know if its been said, and i doubt this will fix it, but if you want to turn off the shared memory on your GPU you can do so with a tool called ATI Tray tools (highly recommended for ATI users).
Tools and options -> General options -> Advanced -> Uncheck Enable ATT shared memory
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On September 28 2010 04:13 Black Gun wrote: only 3 gb ram with shared memory will create a ram shortage.
win7 uses about 1.5gb of ram, sc2 uses about 1-1.2 gb ram. and sc2 uses at least some 500 mb of ram of the graphics card. u see the problem?
also the cpu is very weak, and big battles in sc2 are very cpu intensive.
RAM is a resource to be used and if it's not being used it's being wasted. That's why Windows will use about 1.5gb of ram even if you're just browsing the web and running a few office apps, so it can speed up the application's load time and speed. Launch up a game and windows will start to allocate more to the game.
which is why a lot of people jumped from xp to vista/7 and went "OMG windows is using soo much of my ram" when windows is actually putting it to better use instead of wasting it like xp does.
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So I reinstalled SC2, and tried pretty much everything, from performance monitoring to setting it to high performance mode, it's pretty weird how my CPU jumps up to 100% every time I open a browser, or click on something in Windows, also when I'm playing SC2 the CPU is constantly around 70%, I didn't get to check if it gets up to 100% when my framerate drastically drops, however it probably does. It also seems to be worse than before, I even get these huge fps drops when there are like only 16 stalkers on the field, so it seems to get worse, I dunno what is up with my CPU, but it's either very shitty, or its gonna break down soon. So just fuck it all, I uninstalled the game again, and gonna forget about it. Also gonna beat up someone at Acer if this piece of shit breaks down right after the warranty wears off.
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lol I feel your pain. I pretty much quit SC2 until I save up some extra cash to buy a nice desktop that will last me a couple years.
I just play Brood War now mainly.
Honestly though I'd suggest you build a cheap desktop to run SC2 or just get a new laptop.
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set everything to low, turn unit portraits to 2d, turn off unit health bars (Just use alt when u need to see).
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I'm running with AMD athlon phenom ~2.1 GHz, is it enough for having all settings in low? Because i still get lag.
I have radeon 4670 which should be fine too, but i can't remember my RAM (I'm not at home).
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your CPU is at 2.1Ghz even if its duo core thats kinda little. Go get a new CPU ( or pc if its a laptop) since sc2 is CPU heavy
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On September 30 2010 18:26 Silentness wrote: lol I feel your pain. I pretty much quit SC2 until I save up some extra cash to buy a nice desktop that will last me a couple years.
I just play Brood War now mainly.
Honestly though I'd suggest you build a cheap desktop to run SC2 or just get a new laptop.
ya, the sad thing is that this laptop is only 3/4 years old, so I'm not really planning on buying a new one, also I'm in uni so i have no monies :~D
On September 30 2010 19:22 CharlieMurphy wrote: set everything to low, turn unit portraits to 2d, turn off unit health bars (Just use alt when u need to see).
always played like that, because I dont care about graphics :D
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3/4 years is a little more than the average length that a laptop lasts before it goes kaput
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This is CPU problem, go buy better CPU.
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I'm having similar issues here. As soon as food count gets around 50+ for 2+ players (single player, AI or multiplayer), frame rate slows down, and there is a noticeable lag between striking a key and the order actually occurring. In 2v2 it sometimes becomes unplayable.
My specs seems decent, and I'm running on absolute lowest graphics settings with a good internet connection:
Intel Core(tm) i5-450M 2.4GHz 4GB DDR3 RAM NVIDIA GeForce 310M 500GB 5,400RPM Serial ATA Hard Drive Windows 7 64 bit
The thing that really bugs me is that this problem suddenly appeared around late August. I have been playing the game since launch, and until then I had not had a single issue with game speed. This included the entire single player campaign and 50+ multiplayer games. Now even small map single player missions seem slower.
This is a new laptop, and I've installed only a bare minimum of programs. None of the programs installed in August make a difference. I've done everything I can think of to improve performance, including all the windows performance diagnostic tools. I've removed all unnecessary programs from start-up, and make sure nothing is running in the background when I play. If anything, there are less reasons for the computer to run slowly now than there were when I bought SC2. So I wonder, could this be associated with any of the minor patches? Or is it definitely a problem on my end?
Any ideas would be appreciated.
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It's weird how people with good computers are getting this problem too. Maybe we should post on the blizz forums. Doubt they would know anything more tho, tech support usually knows nothing more than the basic stuff.
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Im running sc2 on high graphics using my Alienware m17x laptop without any problems.
Q9000 Quad core 2.0 GHz 4Gig ram DDR3 2x Geforce GTX260M SLI Raid 0 harddrives Win7 64bit
Hope it helps
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On October 01 2010 01:34 whatthefat wrote: I'm having similar issues here. As soon as food count gets around 50+ for 2+ players (single player, AI or multiplayer), frame rate slows down, and there is a noticeable lag between striking a key and the order actually occurring. In 2v2 it sometimes becomes unplayable. [snip] Any ideas would be appreciated.
Check power settings and temperatures, if you haven't already. One way performance could be worse like that is because of CPU or GPU throttling, from heat or other causes.
Try setting everything to maximum performance settings. Monitor temperatures while at idle and while playing. Also consider running CPU and/or GPU benchmarking programs to load the CPU and GPU fully and check temperatures then as well.
This is also really dumb, but maybe your laptop has Optimus (switchable graphics) and somehow you're running on Intel's integrated graphics rather than the GeForce 310M?
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On October 01 2010 02:12 DraWx wrote: Im running sc2 on high graphics using my Alienware m17x laptop without any problems.
Q9000 Quad core 2.0 GHz 4Gig ram DDR3 2x Geforce GTX260M SLI Raid 0 harddrives Win7 64bit
Hope it helps
I want a laptop like that too :3 Too bad its like 3000$ if u wanna buy it in Hungary :~D
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