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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
 the i7 is the more modern, future-proof and effective cpu though, so if the price isnt an issue, id go for the i7. in particular as the chance is high that blizz will improve the sc2 support for more than 2 cores in the future, and if this happens the i7 will destroy the p8700. | ||
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theBlues
El Salvador638 Posts
There is absolutely no way, that a core2duo is faster than a core i processor. No way. The cores is not the only thing to take into account. The core i3/5/7 processors have a HIGHER bandwidth, are of a newer architecture and therefore are faster. Comparing clock speeds is not an intelligent way of making a comparison. a 2.0ghz corei7 will rape a 3.0ghz core2duo hands down in every game and task. Remember when core2duo came out? people with pentium 4 and pentium D processors clocked at 3.0ghz couldnt believe a 1.8ghz processor was a lot faster. Its the same thing all over again. Op, buy corei7 and future proof your pc. | ||
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ammeL
United States211 Posts
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
On August 24 2010 01:34 FragKrag wrote: When the i7 recognizes it is handling a dual core load, it shuts off two cores and automatically increases the speed of the two other cores to 2.8GHz. This, combined with the fact that i7 already have a instructions/clock advantage makes it the logical choice. Can people PLEASE start listening to the guy who knows what he is talking about? | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
On August 24 2010 04:25 Fontong wrote: Can people PLEASE start listening to the guy who knows what he is talking about? except that the i7-720QM in dualcore mode runs at 2.4ghz and not at 2.8. 2.8 is the speed for singlecore. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
1600x900 vs G73JH-RBBX05 1920x1080, that being said the G73JH-RBBX05 is a much better laptop overall But the G72GX runs a 260m which is like a 8800GT the G73JH runs a 5870m which is like a 5770, which will run about the same in SC2 just due to the game bias that likes nvidia drivers quite a bit more (ati isn't showing the optimized love) I'd go with the G73JH frankly larger resolution on screen better gpu and cpu it's a better laptop, if you need to run sc2 just have turbo mode enabled, which should auto change up the cpu and self correct. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On August 24 2010 03:32 TheBlueMeaner wrote: I have never seen some many people spewing ignorance all over a thread. There is absolutely no way, that a core2duo is faster than a core i processor. No way. The cores is not the only thing to take into account. The core i3/5/7 processors have a HIGHER bandwidth, are of a newer architecture and therefore are faster. Comparing clock speeds is not an intelligent way of making a comparison. a 2.0ghz corei7 will rape a 3.0ghz core2duo hands down in every game and task. Remember when core2duo came out? people with pentium 4 and pentium D processors clocked at 3.0ghz couldnt believe a 1.8ghz processor was a lot faster. Its the same thing all over again. Op, buy corei7 and future proof your pc. I'm not sure to be sad or amused. | ||
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drlame
Sweden574 Posts
I would say amused. i7 will probably be rendered obsolete in weeks. | ||
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FragKrag
United States11557 Posts
On August 24 2010 04:36 Black Gun wrote: except that the i7-720QM in dualcore mode runs at 2.4ghz and not at 2.8. 2.8 is the speed for singlecore. oops my bad~ | ||
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EsbenPM
Denmark364 Posts
Now if the game runs better with the other cpu, i guess it'll depend on the build but with the i7-720QM the CPU atleast wont give any problems. | ||
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Cryptics
42 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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Subversion
South Africa3627 Posts
the i7 is def not the better choice. P.S. If when you read HP you thought "hitpoints", yes, I'm afraid you're a nerd. P.P.S. I did, lol. | ||
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Zealotdriver
United States1557 Posts
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Jiiks
Finland487 Posts
Be sad, he's talking about laptops not desktop where i7 is definitely not future proof. For a laptop it is. On August 24 2010 13:05 Subversion wrote: the core speed is really not everything. think of a car with 1000HP, its still gotta put that power on the road. the i7 is def not the better choice. P.S. If when you read HP you thought "hitpoints", yes, I'm afraid you're a nerd. P.P.S. I did, lol. The i7 is def the better choice. There's not a single feature other than 25wtpd that is better on that dual core. | ||
ohN
United States1075 Posts
On August 24 2010 03:32 TheBlueMeaner wrote: I have never seen some many people spewing ignorance all over a thread. There is absolutely no way, that a core2duo is faster than a core i processor. No way. The cores is not the only thing to take into account. The core i3/5/7 processors have a HIGHER bandwidth, are of a newer architecture and therefore are faster. Comparing clock speeds is not an intelligent way of making a comparison. a 2.0ghz corei7 will rape a 3.0ghz core2duo hands down in every game and task. Remember when core2duo came out? people with pentium 4 and pentium D processors clocked at 3.0ghz couldnt believe a 1.8ghz processor was a lot faster. Its the same thing all over again. Op, buy corei7 and future proof your pc. ..lol There are very few games that use more than 2-cores. So if we're talking strictly for gaming, you're comparing the p8700 to the two cores on the i7. In that case, the c2d is at least comparable, if not better than the i7 if the i7 is at 1.6ghz and the c2d at 2.53ghz. Not to mention I bet the c2d will be a LOT cheaper. | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On August 24 2010 13:50 ohN wrote: ..lol There are very few games that use more than 2-cores. So if we're talking strictly for gaming, you're comparing the p8700 to the two cores on the i7. In that case, the c2d is at least comparable, if not better than the i7 if the i7 is at 1.6ghz and the c2d at 2.53ghz. Not to mention I bet the c2d will be a LOT cheaper. Did you see any of the posts that mentioned that when using 2 cores, the i7-720QM can go up to 2.4 GHz, or that the i7 has 4X256 KB L2 + 6 MB L3 cache compared to 3 MB L2 cache on the P8700, or that the i7 has a more advanced architecture that's faster clock-for-clock? Granted, the difference isn't going to be huge in games that aren't threaded well, but it's crazy to think the P8700 could be better in performance. | ||
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theBlues
El Salvador638 Posts
On August 24 2010 04:56 sob3k wrote: I'm not sure to be sad or amused. I'm not sure why you are spamming the thread with no real contribution but your ignorant opinion. You probably have an old ass pc and are trying to feel self-assured you don't own dated crap. On August 24 2010 05:16 drlame wrote: I would say amused. i7 will probably be rendered obsolete in weeks. Yeah, because a core2duo is more future proof than core i7. Your comment says that you don't know much about hardware, and have absolutely no idea what intel's roadmap is. I'm pretty sure corei7 will remain a competitive processor at least a couple of years from now. Core2duo is already obsolote. On August 24 2010 13:50 ohN wrote: ..lol There are very few games that use more than 2-cores. So if we're talking strictly for gaming, you're comparing the p8700 to the two cores on the i7. In that case, the c2d is at least comparable, if not better than the i7 if the i7 is at 1.6ghz and the c2d at 2.53ghz. Not to mention I bet the c2d will be a LOT cheaper. There is a reason why core2duo is cheaper.. I'm getting the impression you guys don't know what a benchmark is. I challenge you guys to go to a technology forum and post that core2duo is faster than corei7. It doesn't even matter if it is a multithreaded app or a single threaded app, corei7 is faster, thats the way things are. The wolfdale architecture (core2duo) is dated, there is absolutely no way op will be better off buying dated hardware. "few games use quadcore processors" is an opinion either from 2 years ago, or from someone who only knows starcraft. Here is a small list of relatively new (2008-2010) mainstream games that make use of 4 processors Dragon age origins and its sequels (up to 60% faster on a quad core) Alien vs Predator Grand theft auto 4 (unplayable on a dual core) Battlefield bad company 2 Prototype Metro 2033 Crysis Warhead The last remnant Supreme Commander and its sequels Spore Lost planet and its sequels World in conflict and its sequels Alan Wake and the list goes on and on... Again, there is absolutely no way OP will be better off buying a dated dual core than a new quad core... Even if Sc2 was poorly optimized the corei7 would have the advantage. Please understand that you cannot use clock speeds as a reference when comparing diferent architectures... Here is a benchmark chart comparing a core2duo processor e8400 (3.0ghz) and the corei7 920 (2.66ghz), core2duo loses everytime eventhough it has a higher clockspeed... Benchmarks Here is another chart comparing the weaker corei5 650 vs core2duo e8400, both dual core processors, core2duo loses again... benchmarks 2 Ceteris paribus the mobile versions of these processors should behave similarly. Op will be better off buying the corei7. | ||
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TriniMasta
United States1323 Posts
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Cryptics
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