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I always ignore/forget things like this, which is why I post here. DEFINITELY overlooked af-heatsink, I'll get on that. Yeah, not interested in dual-cards. Never done the SSD/HD split before, I'll try it out.
Case recommendations? This guy's pretty, it worth it?: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139005
edit Lol, ricing is not need, had that Antec case before and it worked, lots of review, etc etc. I don't know much about cases, everything just needs to fit in it, and the nice stuff like where you can stuff the cables behind/under the mobo always seem awesome, but pricy and not worth it since cords are usually easy enough to manage. I'm looking at your recommendations and altering the build.
Thanks for the time and help!
edit I don't need the following: CDrom, monitors, keyboard, mouse, speakers/headset/mic.
Looking at dropping price on GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) - $134.99
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update Building a streaming machine. (not needed: monitors, key/mouse, speakers)
Advice requested. Thanks in advance!
Edit: Okay, CDrom only $20, added it on. Edit: Updated SSD, changed case.
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GTX 550 Ti is kind of borderline and significantly worse than the $150 HD 6850. I think it's worth the $15 extra.
I missed this before, but Crucial M4 64GB is $105 under this SKU (7mm height instead of 9.5mm height): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148528
Source 210 doesn't mount 2.5" drives like most SSDs natively I think. You can get an adapter, get an SSD model which comes with an adapter, or just tape it down or something like that.
Thinking long term, I'd still recommend the Rosewill Capstone, but it's a premium option that seems a little bit out of line with most of your other picks, which seem pretty price-conscious now. Antec Neo Eco 400C for $45 is a lower-priced yet quite capable alternative, if you want to save: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029
Likewise, an i7-2600k really isn't going to be that much better than an i5-2500k, maybe like 25% better at best if you can find an encoding scenario where you can hit all the threads (doesn't often happen in practice with streaming), but close to 0% better for most situations. I left it alone before because you said you wanted a streaming machine and had all kinds of much worse wastes of money elsewhere in the build. I'd say this can be argued either way, so it's your call.
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Okay, let me also state money isn't really an issue. I'd like to drop prices where possible, but I want a nice rig first and foremost. I've also never SLIed, and have mixed feelings about it, I think it just better/easier to drop cash on one nice card rather than two lesser cards.
Should I just grab a 580, 570? I've had a better experience with nVidia than AMD.
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A 560Ti is pretty good price/performance. Unless you play graphically demanding games and want them on maxed settings (rather than high settings), it should be more than enough. You can improve that a bit by getting an 560 Ti 448 (close to a 570). If you're considering a 580/570, I'd look for a cheap price on a used one from some enthusiast replacing theirs with a 7970. To me, a 580 is getting to the point where you ought to have a 2560x1600 resolution screen or eyefinity.
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On January 22 2012 06:02 lengeta wrote: Okay, let me also state money isn't really an issue. I'd like to drop prices where possible, but I want a nice rig first and foremost. I've also never SLIed, and have mixed feelings about it, I think it just better/easier to drop cash on one nice card rather than two lesser cards.
Should I just grab a 580, 570? I've had a better experience with nVidia than AMD.
Get a 560ti or a 560ti 448 cores.
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GTX 550 Ti just plain sucks for that price. That GTX 460 for $140 is way better and is probably the best value other than arguably Gigabyte's GTX 560 Ti at $210: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125401
Above GTX 560 Ti 448 is a huge waste of money if you've got a 60 Hz 1920x1200 monitor or less.
For many people 64GB on an SSD is not that much. If you're looking for a reasonable place to dump money, I'd get a 128GB model over upgrading from say CM HAF 912 (which has all the nice features including 2.5" drive mounting, except maybe great dust filtering) to Antec 1100. 64GB is enough for many people though, but a lot of people regret not having more space on their SSDs. It really depends on what you want to put on there.
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Streaming what, and playing what? Note that above GTX 460 is unnecessary for SC2 on ultra at 1920x1080. i.e. in general I'd call above GTX 560 Ti 448 a huge waste of money for most games, but for SC2, it's way past that point. It's not going to improve your streaming any.
This is the point where, if you really get the Ti 448, I need to have a disclaimer saying that if you overclock the crap out of the CPU and GPU AND run certain synthetic stress tests AND get around some power limiting on the GPU AND add a whole bunch of hard drives, you might be able to hit 450W power draw. But the power supply can do well over 450W anyway.
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I'm wanting to stream 1080p in any game with decent quality. I have an older PC, and a good laptop, so I'm grabbing a capture-card as well, but I'd still like this rig to stand alone.
Edit: Also, my speed 15 down 4 up, and I'll likely be upgrading that in the future. Haven't stream 1080p before, but I believe I should be able to manage it.
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Great advice from Myrmidon. A bigger SSD will be far more luxurious than a fancier video card on 1920x1080. Remember, streaming does not require additional GPU power, just CPU power. When I said above graphically demanding games, I really meant a few very demanding games (that we don't even know if you play). 560Ti will be overkill for most games out there. And it will play any game with good quality at your resolution.
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Overkill can be good when looking down the road though, I've also never done the SSD/HDD install before, so I'll take this advice and upgrade to the 128G. Stick with the Gigabyte's 560Ti.
Edit: Total comes to $1,172.90. Not bad, definitely wanted to stay well under $1,500.
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Just curious what you gurus think of this very economic build:
Case/PSU: Thermaltake v4 BE CPU: G620 Motherboard: Asus P8H61 RAM: rendition by cruicial ddr3-1333 GPU: GTX 460
Total: $370
Mind you my current computer is a 4 yr old Dell inspiron 530 with an E2160 and 8600gt running SC2 on low with 50fps mid to late game.
I just wanted to upgrade to something that can be upgraded again when the new ivybridge processors come out. Not needed are the monitor, HD, DVD, keyboard or mouse
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On January 22 2012 07:02 JFCycWalker wrote:Just curious what you gurus think of this very economic build: Case/PSU: Thermaltake v4 BECPU: G620Motherboard: Asus P8H61RAM: rendition by cruicial ddr3-1333GPU: GTX 460 Total: $370 Mind you my current computer is a 4 yr old Dell inspiron 530 with an E2160 and 8600gt running SC2 on low with 50fps mid to late game. I just wanted to upgrade to something that can be upgraded again when the new ivybridge processors come out. Not needed are the monitor, HD, DVD, keyboard or mouse
why do you want to upgrade to ivrybridge in a year? I would keep the 8600gt (unless u really dont want to play on low), and just buy CPU/MOBO/RAM/PSU (use old case as well). This way you can get a better CPU and you can get a new GPU in a year.
edit: and i see people usually suggest newegg and ncix for US, so u might be able to find better prices there
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You don't want a case with a power supply unless you don't care about putting your $300 components at risk. You might as well just re-use the Dell PSU -.-'
Not sure why you're buying from Tigerdirect, I assume you live in a state where Newegg charges sales tax?
If you want to upgrade to Ivybridge, probably a better idea to get a Celeron since Ivybridge comes out in three months or just wait for Ivybridge.
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Hey dudes, im building a new pc and need a little advice/help solving the cpu problem I am having.
HAF 912 Comp Case- $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233
MSI 870A-G54 MoBo- $90 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130632
AMD Phenom II x6 1055t- $150 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103851
PNY Optima 8GB RAM DDR3- $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820178333
Antec Kuhler H20 620 Liquid Cooling System- $65 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835209049
I already have the monitors as well as a 5770 (that I will be replacing with 2 6870s in CF in a couple weeks), a copy of win7, and a Thermaltake TR2 600w psu, and a 640GB hard drive.
Of course I will be playing a lot of sc2, along with skyrim, dead island, bf3, and various older games like left 4 dead. I plan on a 3 monitor setup, with 1 monitor displaying the comp stats (temp and such) and grooveshark, one with w/e game im playing, and another with TL and a stream. I want sc2 to stay above at least 30fps in 3v3's when I get the other 2 video cards on med-high settings.
Now for the big questions... Is the i5 2500k worth upgrading to? And is the extra 2 cores with the 1055t needed over something like a Phenom II x4 960t?
Right now as my setup sits it will be $430 (I have a pc tool kit and some cables Im in need of as well), but with the i5 it will push the price up almost $100, and I really dont want to invest more into this if its not needed
EDIT: I forgot to add that I plan on OC'ing the 1055 to ~3.8 Ghz, Ive read that the stock cooler has allowed for 4ghz, so the 620 should keep it nice a cold at 3.8.
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