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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 19:45:42
January 09 2012 08:24 GMT
#17401
The GTX 560 is priced a bit high. HD 6870 sell for like $160-165 or so and offer pretty much the same performance, which will be more than enough for SC2 on ultra at standard resolutions like 1920x1080.

The sound card is unnecessary, since all motherboards these days have onboard audio, and everything in the price range you're considering supports 7.1 channels too. If you have some very nice speakers or headphones and are looking for better audio quality, a really outdated and cheapo Creative card is really not what you're looking for.

At current prices, if you want a decent mobo and are looking to OC, AsRock P67 Pro3 for $100 is a better deal.

Chassis is okay. If you don't need the window, Cooler Master HAF 912 is of similar quality and features for $60.

You're missing a power supply. Rosewill Capstone 450W for $60 is very high quality and way overkill for the system. If you want, you can spend a little less like around $45, but I don't recommend it as nothing else in the price range is anywhere near as good as the Capstone.

edit: also missing an optical drive
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
January 09 2012 11:28 GMT
#17402
woah just got home and all 7970's on newegg are sold out
<3 Kim Taeyeon
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 09 2012 13:36 GMT
#17403
Ya they were sold out in less than six hours. Amazon has some for about $100 more though =p
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
January 09 2012 14:00 GMT
#17404
ncix has them now.
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
January 09 2012 15:03 GMT
#17405
The 7970 x4 on liquid nitrogen @~1500-1600 core + 3960k at 5.x (5.5?) gHz benchmarks almost made me piss myself. It was so beautiful :D
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
January 09 2012 16:12 GMT
#17406
On January 09 2012 15:32 spscannon wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Just built my computer after taking all of your advice,
waiting to install windows until tomorrow as i forgot I needed a vga cable to run from my motherboard as it won't register I have a graphics card until windows is installed (or am i mistaken about this as it currently isn't desplaying anything to my monitor with an hdmi cable attached to the graphics card slot)

I was wondering what's the best way for me to check system stability (using a i5 2400 and h61 board so no overclock with a hd 6870) and make sure all the components are running ok and that the system is at a good temperature? And where would i get the software. (Is intel burn test what is recommended? and where would i dl that as there seems to be a lot of them in google but no real official site)

Thanks again for the help


You shouldn't have to check for stability if you're not overclocking.

Use HardwareMonitor or some other free temp monitoring program. Load GPU temps sub-90*C and CPU sub-70*C preferrably are fine.

If you really want to test for stability, use IntelBurnTest and do 10 runs. But really just use your computer normally. If your CPU or GPU is for some reason somehow defective it will most likely crash either under light load or in a game.

As a side note @WomWomWom
I think the reason people still use 12+Hr Prime95 runs is because it'll still find errors IBT and LinX don't (I know it did for me, passed IBT and had Prime errors after... 30min? 1hr? forgot). This is what my reading and experience suggests but I'm not preaching it as gospel.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 16:21:57
January 09 2012 16:12 GMT
#17407
-autonuked- didn't think this post was submitted, sorrr
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 16:34:09
January 09 2012 16:21 GMT
#17408
Hi, I have a quick question. I bought a ASROCK H61 M-VS motherboard, and I'm wondering if I can plug both my graphics card, and a wifi card to it.

Here's the description of my mobo:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=H61M-VS&cat=Specifications

So I have one 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot (blue @ x16 mode) which I believe I need to plug the Graphics card. And there is 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x1 slot but it's a smaller one, I think...

Here is a picture of the mobo: http://www.productwiki.com/upload/images/asrock_h61m_vs.jpg

Am I fucked? If I can plug the wifi card, where and how should I put it? If I can't, what is the best solution? Changing the mobo (that would sux)? Maybe buy an external wifi modem to plug by ethernet?

EDIT: more details from the mobo's manual=

PCIE1 (PCIE x16 slot; Blue) is used for PCI Express x16 lane width graphics cards.

PCIE2 (PCIE x1 slot; White) is used for PCI Express cards with x1 lane width cards, such as Gigabit LAN card, SATA2 card, etc.

So can I use the PCIE2 for my wifi card? (this card: http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL-WN851N#spec )
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 16:37:41
January 09 2012 16:35 GMT
#17409
If your wifi works with PCIe, then why shouldn't it work? worse case scenario, you will have to buy a 30$ usb wifi (which was recommended over the pci/pcie wifi cards to me on these forums due to the ability of moving the card around with a usb male to male cable.)

edit: your wifi card is PCI so I dont think u can connect it to your mobo, but wait for more knowledgeable people.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 16:40:19
January 09 2012 16:39 GMT
#17410
On January 10 2012 01:21 SolidMustard wrote:


PCIE2 (PCIE x1 slot; White) is used for PCI Express cards with x1 lane width cards, such as Gigabit LAN card, SATA2 card, etc.

So can I use the PCIE2 for my wifi card? (this card: http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL-WN851N#spec )


Interface 32-bit PCI

No, you can't. Either get a PCI-e x1 interface internal card or a USB adapter.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
January 09 2012 16:52 GMT
#17411
On January 10 2012 01:39 Wabbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 01:21 SolidMustard wrote:


PCIE2 (PCIE x1 slot; White) is used for PCI Express cards with x1 lane width cards, such as Gigabit LAN card, SATA2 card, etc.

So can I use the PCIE2 for my wifi card? (this card: http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL-WN851N#spec )


Interface 32-bit PCI

No, you can't. Either get a PCI-e x1 interface internal card or a USB adapter.


Oh ok thanks, that's what I thought but I wasn't sure. So it's better to get a USB wi-fi adapter than an ethernet one ?
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
January 09 2012 17:26 GMT
#17412
USB Wi-fi adapters are fine & pretty cheap. If you can return the wireless card and get a USB adapter, go with that. If you can still return the motherboard you can check your retailer to see if you can exchange it for an Asrock H61M-GE, a very similar motherboard that comes with a PCI instead PCI-e slot you can use in addition to the graphics card.

But USB adaptors are often better than internal ones is you don't have the greatest reception because it doesn't suffer interference from the case and you can wave it around.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
s.a.y
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Croatia3840 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 21:38:13
January 09 2012 21:37 GMT
#17413
As the time for my PC build finally comes around, i have a power supply question. Is a Corsair CX 430 enough for a Intel i5 2400, Radeon 6850 Vapor-X, WD 500 GB HDD and a Asus P861/USB3 motherboard?

EDIT: Edit sentence to make more clear
I am not good with quotes
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 09 2012 21:46 GMT
#17414
On January 10 2012 06:37 s.a.y wrote:
As the time for my PC build finally comes around, i have a power supply question. Is a Corsair CX 430 enough for a Intel i5 2400, Radeon 6850 Vapor-X, WD 500 GB HDD and a Asus P861/USB3 motherboard?

EDIT: Edit sentence to make more clear


Yes.
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Blackinator
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada25 Posts
January 09 2012 22:30 GMT
#17415
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62697
Does this mobo support SLI?
Stephen
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 09 2012 22:36 GMT
#17416
On January 10 2012 07:30 Blackinator wrote:
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62697
Does this mobo support SLI?

No. Generally if the product information page includes the word CrossFire (CrossFireX) but not SLI, that's a good indication of something...if it supported SLI, you would think that this would be a feature to advertise.

Note that the slots are not split x8/x8 though, only x16 and then x4 on the second slot.
Blackinator
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada25 Posts
January 09 2012 23:14 GMT
#17417
On January 10 2012 07:36 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 07:30 Blackinator wrote:
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62697
Does this mobo support SLI?

No. Generally if the product information page includes the word CrossFire (CrossFireX) but not SLI, that's a good indication of something...if it supported SLI, you would think that this would be a feature to advertise.

Note that the slots are not split x8/x8 though, only x16 and then x4 on the second slot.


Well, fuck. Is there any way to enable SLI, seems like a stupid question. But just wondering.
Stephen
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 09 2012 23:17 GMT
#17418
If it doesn't support it, how could you enable sli? Really...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 23:24:19
January 09 2012 23:23 GMT
#17419
There are hacks to do so for such intel boards although it greatly varies, it's not like sli is some secret hardware thing put on the board it's just the board gets set to nvidia and they check it out to see if it's okay for licensing, but it does add like a few bucks of the cost of the board.
Ancestral
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 00:33:16
January 10 2012 00:31 GMT
#17420
On January 08 2012 20:26 Womwomwom wrote:
Use Intel Burn Test. Prime95 takes up to 24 hours to properly test stability. Intel Burn Test should start shooting error messages twenty minutes in or after 5-10 passes. I'm surprised people still recommend Prime95 for stability testing, especially since no one uses AMD processors anymore.

After 20 passes with Intel Burn Test, chances are your processor is completely stable.

Thanks. I can pass 20 tests on normal and high, but not maximum! Some blokes say Normal is enough, or even high. What should I do? Max temps hit 68°C, and opinion ranges from 70°C is the highest for a burn test, some say 75°C is okay. Should I increase VCore more? Like to 1.39 or 1.40? Should I turn off C1E or EIST (C3 and C6 are already off)?

There are lots of opinions out there. What does the TL.net computer build resource thread think? I know there isn't a "perfect" overclock, increasing voltage means more heat, more power, but decreasing frequency means fewer GHz. Of course, I haven't actually installed music software yet so maybe I already have more overhead than I could ever want (but probably not).

Edit: tl;dr 4.5 GHz, 1.36 volts, passes 20 burn tests on high, but not on max, what should I do?
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