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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
-AtRi-
Profile Joined December 2010
123 Posts
January 08 2012 23:18 GMT
#17381
On January 09 2012 07:37 Alryk wrote:
I know you should probably change the RAM, the kingston hyperx ram runs at a 1.65V, you want 1.5V. Plus it's a bit expensive.

http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&vpn=996770&manufacture=Mushkin Enhanced&promoid=1368 is 10$ cheaper and will be basically as good (1600 speed clocked ram is barely better than 1333, it's negligible for gaming.)

I'm probably not qualified to comment on anything else, I'm sure somebody smarter than me will give you other tips though.

Edit: Cheaper ram - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422 35$. I don't know if it's a good stick though or anything.


Why is 1.5v better?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 08 2012 23:32 GMT
#17382
The JEDEC standard for DDR3 is 1.5v and that's what is recommended for Sandybridge.

Lower voltage memory is going to be better they're generally better chips, will have better resale value, and possibly have better overclocking potential.
-AtRi-
Profile Joined December 2010
123 Posts
January 08 2012 23:54 GMT
#17383
On January 09 2012 08:32 skyR wrote:
The JEDEC standard for DDR3 is 1.5v and that's what is recommended for Sandybridge.

Lower voltage memory is going to be better they're generally better chips, will have better resale value, and possibly have better overclocking potential.


Ah, makes sense, thanks!
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
January 09 2012 00:05 GMT
#17384
Yeah i picked up some 1.3 volt 1600 RAM really cheap, like 5 bucks more than the 1333 equivalent.

There were some 1866 RAM at 1.5 volts for 30 dollars more but guess what? If I wanted to I bet I could OC my 1600 RAM higher than that 1866.

Or really, I could toggle that RAM faster, is more accurate to say.
twitch.tv/medrea
TuckFexas
Profile Joined July 2011
United States154 Posts
January 09 2012 00:11 GMT
#17385
Helping a friend build a computer, need some help. He wants it to run skyrim, WoW, SC2 and needs it to handle a lot of video editing (has 3 classes on it) and would like it if he could overclock and had the option to upgrade if he wanted. Doesn't want an SSD, has windows 7 and is playing at 1920/1080. His budget is 800$-900$. Here is what i came up with:


Intel Core i5-2500K 220$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157271
ASRock Z68 121$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072
Radeon HD 6950 2GB 280$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150549
SAMSUNG CD/DVD Burner 16$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151233
CORSAIR 650W 90$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139020
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 45$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428
Rosewill CHALLENGER 60$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147060
HITACHI 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache 80$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299

914$ before shipping

would anyone here make any changes? I'm not to experienced with building computers and would like it if someone would look over this build.
Texas is to f*cking hot.
blaZer_cro
Profile Joined January 2012
Croatia5 Posts
January 09 2012 00:22 GMT
#17386
Hey,

need a little help.. Soon I am getting new laptop and probably it's going to be DELL XPS L502x (Core i7 Mobile 2670QM, DDR3 6GB, GeForce GT 540M 2GB).

I was wondering will I be able to use it for some streaming (atleast 360-480p, while playing on mid graphics ingame).
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 09 2012 00:22 GMT
#17387
6950 for $280 is not a good purchase, I'd suggest getting a GTX 560 Ti 448 for $10 more: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130738 Video editing most of the time depends on the CPU so I'm not sure whether you have specific requirements for the GPU and/or that's why you're getting a SLI configuration.

Corsair TX650V2 is good for ~$76 but at $90, the Rosewill Capstone 650 is better: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182071

You can get 1600MHz cas9 kits for under $40: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220570
TuckFexas
Profile Joined July 2011
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 00:32:18
January 09 2012 00:27 GMT
#17388
The reason i went with the 6950 is for the V-RAM, some of the mods for skyrim recommend having atleast 1.5gb of V RAM to run them smoothly, not for the SLI. And as for video editing i assumed it would be like photoshop so i thought it would be covered with the RAM. I don't really know a lot about the mods, if the 560 would be fine then ill just get that. and as for the video editing, i guess the i5 would be fine (unless hyperthreading is involved, wouldn't i need an i7 for that?)
Texas is to f*cking hot.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 00:31:26
January 09 2012 00:30 GMT
#17389
rather 6970 instead of 6950 2gb imo

Oh and btw I really don't think that you can play the mods at high enough quality to be capped by RAM anyway, 6950 isnt good enough for that
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 09 2012 01:45 GMT
#17390
Radeon HD7970 are up for sale on Newegg starting at $550. (holy shit no price gouging Newegg?)
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 03:41:21
January 09 2012 03:35 GMT
#17391
&*$#Texas:

If he's a big WoW head, you might want to skimp on the video card (and maybe drop to a non-SLI capable power supply) and get an SSD that can fit the operating system, WoW, and maybe one other RPG game. I've heard (but have no personal knowledge) that an SSD is a very nice luxury for MMOs because they lower the time needed to load new textures. In essence, there will be no delay in loading new graphics when they come into your field of vision. (Not much use to a game like SC2 though.) SC2 & WoW should not need a powerful video card (although a cheaper $200 card might have to drop to simply high settings for Skyrim).

If someone else here is familiar with SSDs for WoW, hopefully they'll speak up.

P.S. I doubt V-Ram will be a big deal for a 1920x1080 monitor, but I haven't read many Skyrim reviews.

@SkyR
I read a rumor on OCN that AMD dropped the price of 7970 to retailers to $475, theoretically giving Newegg something under $75 profit. Still less than most people anticipated. Perhaps they are nervous at testing price points above the level 580s have been at or there's enough stock to keep competing suppliers nervous.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
TuckFexas
Profile Joined July 2011
United States154 Posts
January 09 2012 03:39 GMT
#17392
I have an SSD myself, and told him what having them is like. He still doesn't want one
Texas is to f*cking hot.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 03:44:12
January 09 2012 03:43 GMT
#17393
Some less computer literate-people have a phobia about (or simply wouldn't be able to) managing more than one data drive. If I was to put a high-end system together for my mother, for example, it wouldn't include an SSD unless it was the only drive.

Edit: But if he bitches the AH still lags him, feel free to have no sympathy.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 09 2012 03:54 GMT
#17394
If the issue is not wanting to have to manage another drive, that's what SSD caching is for (on Intel Z68, with other alternatives like OCZ Synapse).
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 09 2012 04:33 GMT
#17395
Yeah or even a hybrid hard drive like a Seagate Momentus!
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Solidarity
Profile Joined September 2011
United States78 Posts
January 09 2012 06:05 GMT
#17396
Sorry for the hardware illiteracy, but is an Nvidia GeForce GTX 470 a significant improvement over an ATI Radeon 5770? Price is irrelevant, a friend is willing to give me the 470 if its a noteworthy improvement, otherwise he'll just sell it away. Thanks
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 09 2012 06:08 GMT
#17397
It is by a good amount. It also uses a lot more power, and many designs tend to be noisier.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/311?vs=296
Rollin
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-09 06:13:18
January 09 2012 06:12 GMT
#17398
On January 09 2012 15:05 Solidarity wrote:
Sorry for the hardware illiteracy, but is an Nvidia GeForce GTX 470 a significant improvement over an ATI Radeon 5770? Price is irrelevant, a friend is willing to give me the 470 if its a noteworthy improvement, otherwise he'll just sell it away. Thanks

Decide for yourself: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/311?vs=296

Personally, yes it is a significant difference, but how much is he selling it for?

EDIT: Myrm ninja'ed me
Throw off those chains of reason, and your prison disappears. | Check your posting frequency timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/post_activity_img.php
spscannon
Profile Joined November 2011
146 Posts
January 09 2012 06:32 GMT
#17399
Just built my computer after taking all of your advice,
waiting to install windows until tomorrow as i forgot I needed a vga cable to run from my motherboard as it won't register I have a graphics card until windows is installed (or am i mistaken about this as it currently isn't desplaying anything to my monitor with an hdmi cable attached to the graphics card slot)

I was wondering what's the best way for me to check system stability (using a i5 2400 and h61 board so no overclock with a hd 6870) and make sure all the components are running ok and that the system is at a good temperature? And where would i get the software. (Is intel burn test what is recommended? and where would i dl that as there seems to be a lot of them in google but no real official site)

Thanks again for the help
jellytoast
Profile Joined August 2010
United States7 Posts
January 09 2012 07:45 GMT
#17400
I need help building a computer to play sc2 on ultra and live stream. I'm new to this so I need to know if all of these parts are compatible/work well together. Also not sure if i'm forgetting something. I'm open to suggestions on better/different parts as long as they don't increase much in price. Thanks in advance!

Seagate Barracuda ST500DM002 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767

MSI N560GTX-M2D1GD5 GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127592

Creative Sound Blaster Audigy SE 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102003

G.SKILL Value Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL9D-8GBNT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231422

ASUS P8Z68-V LX LGA 1155 Intel Z68 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131781

Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115072

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler Compatible Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

LIAN LI Lancool PC-K58W Black 0.8 mm SECC, Plastic + Mesh ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112238
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