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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 03:50:00
January 01 2012 03:49 GMT
#16921
On January 01 2012 12:46 Cheater23 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
thanks guys

One more question, would the first motherboard be better then the second? It's not much more, and I went ahead and downgraded the graphics card to a Radeon HD6670, so the total still ends up around $600


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128523

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241


The Gigabyte Z68M D2H is better but there is no point in wasting money on a Z68 motherboard because you need a K suffix processor in order to overclock and it isn't smart to do CrossfireX with such a low-end card. The rest of the features on the Z68 chipset is next to useless.
Kaotic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States18 Posts
January 01 2012 07:09 GMT
#16922
Hey all, I'm looking to upgrade my graphics card on my new desktop. I'm playing on a 23" led monitor (1920x1080) so I'd love to be able to play in 1080p. I currently have a radeon HD 5450 w/ 1gb VRAM and a power supply with 350W. Basically I'm looking for suggestions so that I'd be able to play SC2/Rift/Etc.. on high graphics settings with full resolution (1080p). Also what power supply would I need to upgrade too. Any specific manufacturers, specs, etc.. that anyone could refer me to would be great. The CPU is also an i7-2600 3.4ghz and I have 8gb RAM.

Thanks for any info!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 01 2012 07:27 GMT
#16923
You'll want a quality ~500w unit and a Radeon HD6870.

Rosewill Capstone 450w for $60: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066
Radeon HD6870 for $160: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131378

Keep in mind there is a big big difference between the shit power supply that came in your prebuilt and the Rosewill Capstone even if the advertised wattage does not seem like a big difference.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
January 01 2012 07:43 GMT
#16924
I bought the build you suggested with the 6870 + the new PSU! Thank you, this might not be the place to ask, but how high should I be expecting to overclock it if I'm just using that configuration no thermal paste and what not?

Thank you so much btw! And Happy 2012!
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 01 2012 07:47 GMT
#16925
The configuration I listed has an aftermarket heatsink (the Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo). All retail heatsinks comes with thermal paste either in a tube, bag, or pre-applied. The 2500k can easily be overclocked to around 4.5GHz, it may be hard going any higher than 4.5GHz though since low-end boards such as the C43 usually has shit BIOS options.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
January 01 2012 07:49 GMT
#16926
With no thermal paste, you'll need to underclock it.

Using the thermal paste that comes with the Hyper 212 Evo, it will depend somewhat on the exact CPU you get (not the model number but the specific sample). The motherboard and CPU sample will be more limitations than the cooling. Around 4.5 GHz should be possible usually, but slightly lower may be better for long-term usage since it's a low-end motherboard.
Kaotic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States18 Posts
January 01 2012 07:53 GMT
#16927
Ok thanks, seems like the 6870 is what a lot of people have been recommended so I'll probably be looking into that for sure. Are there any compatability issues I'll need to pay attention to with upgrading the graphics card and psu? Thanks!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 01 2012 08:00 GMT
#16928
There shouldn't be any issues since you have a LGA1155 motherboard which is new enough to have your standard 24pin, 4pin, and PCI-E 2.0.
Kaotic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States18 Posts
January 01 2012 08:19 GMT
#16929
Also I'm making an assumption that the 6870 is multi-display capable? And is there anything else I should be looking into upgrading while I'm at it? Thanks!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 08:22:13
January 01 2012 08:21 GMT
#16930
The Radeon HD6870 is capable of handling six monitors. You have one of the best processors available right now so there's nothing else you can upgrade that will improve performance. You can add in an SSD if you want to improve loading times. If you have that much money than you may want to wait for the Radeon HD7950 / 7970 to be released next week and get one of them instead of the 6870.
Kaotic
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States18 Posts
January 01 2012 08:44 GMT
#16931
Yeah I'm looking to stick right around the 200 dollar range as I just dropped 1k on the desktop itself. I figured everything but the graphics card/power supply was pretty much good to go but figured I'd ask and make sure this is all I needed. I'm going to make an assumption that the 7950/7970 shatters my ~200 range lol.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
January 01 2012 09:26 GMT
#16932
On January 01 2012 16:49 Myrmidon wrote:
With no thermal paste, you'll need to underclock it.

Using the thermal paste that comes with the Hyper 212 Evo, it will depend somewhat on the exact CPU you get (not the model number but the specific sample). The motherboard and CPU sample will be more limitations than the cooling. Around 4.5 GHz should be possible usually, but slightly lower may be better for long-term usage since it's a low-end motherboard.


I'll be happy running it at 4.2Ghz, so hopefully I am able to get it to that. Another noob question, I think it's base clock is at 3.3 and 3.7 for turbo, so if I say OC it to 4.2, does that mean it's turbo will be 4.2 as well?

Thank you for everything, I'm very excited to receive it from the shipping. Only thing I slightly regret is not waiting for the new technology like Ivy Bridge and the 7000s series, oh well!
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
spscannon
Profile Joined November 2011
146 Posts
January 01 2012 09:48 GMT
#16933
which of these RAM would you recommend, (best performance/quality for price). A ranking would be nice. (all are 8 gb 2x4)
G skill value series :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424 (34.99)
Patriot G Series ‘Sector 5’ Edition :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220466 (36.99- 26.99 with rebate)
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311 (39.99 with a microsd)
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417 (39.99)

or would you guys recommend a different one? At the moment I am leaning toward the patriot G series as it is the cheapest after rebate or the skill value, but I thought I would ask for the opinion of more tech savvy people
Thank you for any help you guys can give
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
January 01 2012 13:00 GMT
#16934
On January 01 2012 18:48 spscannon wrote:
which of these RAM would you recommend, (best performance/quality for price). A ranking would be nice. (all are 8 gb 2x4)
G skill value series :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424 (34.99)
Patriot G Series ‘Sector 5’ Edition :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220466 (36.99- 26.99 with rebate)
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311 (39.99 with a microsd)
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417 (39.99)

or would you guys recommend a different one? At the moment I am leaning toward the patriot G series as it is the cheapest after rebate or the skill value, but I thought I would ask for the opinion of more tech savvy people
Thank you for any help you guys can give


Unless you have some very specific requirements: The cheapest. RAM specs above the baseline have very little influence on computer performance for the majority of the tasks.
Such flammable little insects!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 01 2012 14:46 GMT
#16935
On January 01 2012 18:48 spscannon wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
which of these RAM would you recommend, (best performance/quality for price). A ranking would be nice. (all are 8 gb 2x4)
G skill value series :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231424 (34.99)
Patriot G Series ‘Sector 5’ Edition :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220466 (36.99- 26.99 with rebate)
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311 (39.99 with a microsd)
G.SKILL Sniper 8GB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417 (39.99)

or would you guys recommend a different one? At the moment I am leaning toward the patriot G series as it is the cheapest after rebate or the skill value, but I thought I would ask for the opinion of more tech savvy people
Thank you for any help you guys can give


GSkill Value series is the best choice.

Patroit G series is the worse choice.
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
January 01 2012 16:25 GMT
#16936
I want to thank everyone who takes the time to help us noobs in this threads. For me, specially, SkyR and Myrmidon and whatever happend to JingleHell?
Ata
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 16:56:14
January 01 2012 16:56 GMT
#16937
On January 01 2012 18:26 FiWiFaKi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On January 01 2012 16:49 Myrmidon wrote:
With no thermal paste, you'll need to underclock it.

Using the thermal paste that comes with the Hyper 212 Evo, it will depend somewhat on the exact CPU you get (not the model number but the specific sample). The motherboard and CPU sample will be more limitations than the cooling. Around 4.5 GHz should be possible usually, but slightly lower may be better for long-term usage since it's a low-end motherboard.


I'll be happy running it at 4.2Ghz, so hopefully I am able to get it to that. Another noob question, I think it's base clock is at 3.3 and 3.7 for turbo, so if I say OC it to 4.2, does that mean it's turbo will be 4.2 as well?

Thank you for everything, I'm very excited to receive it from the shipping. Only thing I slightly regret is not waiting for the new technology like Ivy Bridge and the 7000s series, oh well!


Sandybridge overclocking is done based on turbo boost. Base clock is irrelevant for the 2500k because the processor will never be at that frequency due to its turbo boost and speedstep. So overclocking to 4.2GHz means you're setting the turbo boost for all four cores to 4.2GHz, well you can set each individual turbo boost (1 core, 2 core, 3 core, 4 core) separately but not many people do that.

On January 02 2012 01:25 Ata wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
I want to thank everyone who takes the time to help us noobs in this threads. For me, specially, SkyR and Myrmidon and whatever happend to JingleHell?
Ata


He quit after receiving a temp ban.
ChriseC
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany440 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 18:53:14
January 01 2012 18:52 GMT
#16938
Can anyone say if my pc compenents fit well together?

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/810/pc2h.png/

GPU is missing in this list but it will be a sapphire 6950 2gb full retail version.

Any tips what to do better? and i dont want to spend alot more money

and thx to all the people helping in this thread <3
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 19:09:04
January 01 2012 19:07 GMT
#16939
Running Crossfire HD 6950 2GB is a bad idea unless you've really got a 3x 1920 x 1080 monitor setup where the game is shown split across all three, or something like that. That's a lot of money to be dumping into hardware that's going to be superseded early this year.

If you're not going to be running multiple HD 6950s for that resolution, HD 6950 1GB is just as good because the extra VRAM will go unused. Also the TX650 V2 would be way overkill for a single graphics card configuration, and it's maybe not even the best option at that price for two graphics cards anyway.

What are you doing that's going to use the hyperthreading on the i7-2600k?

Where's the heatsink for overclocking the i7-2600k?
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 19:09:32
January 01 2012 19:08 GMT
#16940
On January 02 2012 03:52 ChriseC wrote:
Can anyone say if my pc compenents fit well together?

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/810/pc2h.png/

GPU is missing in this list but it will be a sapphire 6950 2gb full retail version.

Any tips what to do better? and i dont want to spend alot more money

and thx to all the people helping in this thread <3

Personally i'd get a i5 2500k and spend the extra 50-70$ on a CPU cooler.
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