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Sure, if you don't need any PCI slots, don't mind losing a PCIe 1x slot, don't need more than 4 SATA ports and don't need SATA3, don't want USB3, and don't need Gigabit Ethernet, and don't think the heatsink on the CPU voltage regulation MOSFETs isn't important (it shouldn't be for such a lower-power CPU, but it's not going to hurt), don't mind having less audio I/O and a lower-end onboard audio chip, you can save $10 there on the cheaper H61M-VS.
That's a lot to give up for $10, but if you're not using those things, then why pay for them?
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Hello gentlemen, I've come here to ask for your sage advice on a future purchase. My computer is several years old now, and I wish to build a new one. However, I currently lack the funds to do so. Here are my current specs:
Q6600
8800 GTX
4GB DDR2 RAM
700 watt PSU
Note: I play at 1680x1050
To get to the point, I'm wanting to upgrade my GPU to help tie me over in the mean time while I save up more funds for a new computer. What I want to know is what is the best GPU I can get with my current setup before the rest of my system starts to bottleneck the new GPU. Any suggestions would be helpful.
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Depends what games you can play, even though the Q6600 has lots of age to it it's actually quite comparable to a i5 2500. You could easily use a 6870 if you so desired.
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Different people have different idea of "quite comparable" but that's not what I'd use to describe a CPU that's less than half as fast (see Cinebench figures):
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=53
Obviously performance is going to depend on workload though, and that's what counts. For example for SC2, Q6600 is already a big problem, and I'd recommend dealing with that before upgrading the graphics any more. For other games, I'd probably still wait a couple months for the new 28nm GPUs to arrive at levels below HD 79xx, before upgrading the graphics.
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On December 31 2011 17:33 Myrmidon wrote:Different people have different idea of "quite comparable" but that's not what I'd use to describe a CPU that's less than half as fast (see Cinebench figures): http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/288?vs=53Obviously performance is going to depend on workload though, and that's what counts. For example for SC2, Q6600 is already a big problem, and I'd recommend dealing with that before upgrading the graphics any more. For other games, I'd probably still wait a couple months for the new 28nm GPUs to arrive at levels below HD 79xx, before upgrading the graphics.
Do you think there will be a price drop for current graphics cards when the new 28nm come out next year? I have the extra money to spend now due to Christmas, and I would upgrade my CPU if I could but I don't have a job currently and I have a dog to take care of. I was mainly looking for something that could games like Battlefield 3, Skyrim, Bad Company 2, and Crysis 2 at higher settings and FPS than my current GPU, and run cooler while doing it (my 8800GTX idles at 50c).
On December 31 2011 17:18 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Depends what games you can play, even though the Q6600 has lots of age to it it's actually quite comparable to a i5 2500. You could easily use a 6870 if you so desired.
Yeah I was thinking along the lines of a 6870 or 6850 most likely. I just don't want to spend extra cash on performance I wont see.
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The price will decrease to roughly performance region the 28nm parts hold - that is, the HD6950 will likely cost around as much as a HD7850 assuming the performance of the two are roughly the same. At worst, they hold their price position hoping late adopters of Crossfire/SLI will choose to buy an older card over newer hardware.
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On December 31 2011 19:52 Womwomwom wrote:
The price will decrease to roughly performance region the 28nm parts hold - that is, the HD6950 will likely cost around as much as a HD7850 assuming the performance of the two are roughly the same. At worst, they hold their price position hoping late adopters of Crossfire/SLI will choose to buy an older card over newer hardware.
I'm really worried about the latter happening. I was originally going to get a 460 back when the 550ti was released, but all the vendors never lowered the price of the 460 because they knew nvidia wasn't manufacturing them anymore.
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That's because GTX 550 Ti is significantly worse than (stock) GTX 460, and everybody was selling overclocked GTX 460s anyway, widening the gap.
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GTX 550 Ti should be completely obsolete anyway as GTX 460 768MB was selling for the same amount and is way better, that's why Nvidia decided to stop making 460 768mb - so that they could sell GTX 550 Tis. I guess they had some spare chips that suited a GTX 550 Ti kind of a card.
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Maybe indirectly, but it's more like any GF104 chip (all GTX 460 versions) costs about as much to make as any GF114 chip (all GTX 560 versions but Ti 448), while the GF116 for the GTX 550 Ti is cheaper to manufacture. Also it requires a bit less board and components costs for the graphics card manufacturers, and it has better performance/power and is thus more valuable at least in some legitimate way. As such there's more profits all around to be had for Nvidia getting GTX 550 Ti sold rather than GTX 460s.
I'm not sure what you mean by "spare chips" for a GTX 550 Ti, since it's a separate layout from the GTX 560s. Half-failed GF116 they can still sell as GT 545 in the OEM market.
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That prebuilt is awful.
Consider that you are paying for a 6950 or 6970 but receiving a 6770 instead, and a shit PSU. The money they save ripping you off is how they do business.
If you can't build your own PC thats fine but dont let a company also decide what to put in it.
EDIT: It also comes with software preloaded. Say hello to bloatware.
I also can't tell what motherboard that is. So I am expecting the cheapest and most shittiest board imaginable that probably wont let you overclock. It comes with an i5-2500k because i5-2500k is a buzz word now.
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It's an okay prebuilt... but why did skip the biggest sale of the year just to buy the same shit that was available for sale on boxing day a few days later? Getting NCIX to assemble for $50 is going to be much better for your money.
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I dont think its okay ಠ_ಠ
I did discount the included Keyboard and mouse and Win7 though i guess. If you need these things it looks like an easier pill to swallow I suppose.
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It's not so bad if you consider the OS and peripherals cost, but NCIX + $50 assembly would still be better.
I was trying to refrain on commenting on that build because there was no way I could let it pass without some kind of uncharitable comment regarding wtf that chassis thinks it's doing. 
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It's okay in the sense that you're extremely lazy and don't mind paying $100 for mystery components being pre-assembled. It's also a plus if you don't live near a NCIX, ME, or CC any computer hardware store that assembles and want to pick up the computer (but who am I kidding, the majority of Canadians live near one).
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Tch I guess I fell for the trap then.
Im still not a fan of builds that dont list specific brand/type information. Mysteries are not very good for computers.
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It IS really bad.
It also has preloaded a thousand programs that tell you to activate them every day and that are a hassle to uninstall, every single preloaded software is shareware so you dont actually get anything for free. I guess you get... a win7 so that's 100$. The mouse and keyboard are like 5$ total so please.
Also can you point me to where it says it's an overclockable configuration?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229283
Also why the hell would you buy that one if you can just buy this?
Really, how can these people be saying that's not a terrible offer?
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