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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 31 2011 18:27 GMT
#16901
The thing is, I wont find a similar build on NCIX.com for under $800 with the OS already, especially not with the ridiculous HDD prices right now. On NCIX if they assemble it, it'll cost me $800-$850, so I think it'll save me quite a bit of time. The only thing I'm worried about is getting a H61 mobo and not being able to OC it -.-

I have all my peripherals.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 31 2011 18:32 GMT
#16902
On January 01 2012 03:22 Shikyo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
It IS really bad.

It also has preloaded a thousand programs that tell you to activate them every day and that are a hassle to uninstall, every single preloaded software is shareware so you dont actually get anything for free. I guess you get... a win7 so that's 100$. The mouse and keyboard are like 5$ total so please.

Also can you point me to where it says it's an overclockable configuration?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229283

Also why the hell would you buy that one if you can just buy this?

Really, how can these people be saying that's not a terrible offer?


Because Newegg doesn't ship to Canada.. lol? It's not bad compared to the majority of others.

On January 01 2012 03:27 FiWiFaKi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
The thing is, I wont find a similar build on NCIX.com for under $800 with the OS already, especially not with the ridiculous HDD prices right now. On NCIX if they assemble it, it'll cost me $800-$850, so I think it'll save me quite a bit of time. The only thing I'm worried about is getting a H61 mobo and not being able to OC it -.-

I have all my peripherals.


I'm pretty sure you can do a similar build for under $800 with the OS
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 31 2011 18:39 GMT
#16903
On January 01 2012 03:32 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 03:22 Shikyo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
It IS really bad.

It also has preloaded a thousand programs that tell you to activate them every day and that are a hassle to uninstall, every single preloaded software is shareware so you dont actually get anything for free. I guess you get... a win7 so that's 100$. The mouse and keyboard are like 5$ total so please.

Also can you point me to where it says it's an overclockable configuration?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229283

Also why the hell would you buy that one if you can just buy this?

Really, how can these people be saying that's not a terrible offer?


Because Newegg doesn't ship to Canada.. lol? It's not bad compared to the majority of others.

Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 03:27 FiWiFaKi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
The thing is, I wont find a similar build on NCIX.com for under $800 with the OS already, especially not with the ridiculous HDD prices right now. On NCIX if they assemble it, it'll cost me $800-$850, so I think it'll save me quite a bit of time. The only thing I'm worried about is getting a H61 mobo and not being able to OC it -.-

I have all my peripherals.


I'm pretty sure you can do a similar build for under $800 with the OS


Without anything being on sale I made one very comparable one on NCIX but with a 5850 instead of the 5770 and it came to cost $980 without assembly. Now with this logic... even if something is on sale I'm sure I wont be saving much money. And pre-built just seems like an easier way to go if I'm not saving much.

http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/pcbuilderpreview.cfm?id=3682459&skus=63499-1-0|50063-1-0|59327-1-0|44264-1-0|56549-1-0|29812-1-0|56970-1-0|45271-1-0|58746-1-0|7843-0
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poopman
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada83 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 18:44:26
December 31 2011 18:41 GMT
#16904
You can save money on the case(get a bitfenix outlaw or merc alpha) and saving money on the psu by getting 450w
Also the mobo you're getting won't let you oc your cpu, your heatsink isn't the best and couldn't you save on the HDD by using used ones?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 31 2011 18:49 GMT
#16905
On January 01 2012 03:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On January 01 2012 03:32 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 03:22 Shikyo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
It IS really bad.

It also has preloaded a thousand programs that tell you to activate them every day and that are a hassle to uninstall, every single preloaded software is shareware so you dont actually get anything for free. I guess you get... a win7 so that's 100$. The mouse and keyboard are like 5$ total so please.

Also can you point me to where it says it's an overclockable configuration?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229283

Also why the hell would you buy that one if you can just buy this?

Really, how can these people be saying that's not a terrible offer?


Because Newegg doesn't ship to Canada.. lol? It's not bad compared to the majority of others.

Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 03:27 FiWiFaKi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
The thing is, I wont find a similar build on NCIX.com for under $800 with the OS already, especially not with the ridiculous HDD prices right now. On NCIX if they assemble it, it'll cost me $800-$850, so I think it'll save me quite a bit of time. The only thing I'm worried about is getting a H61 mobo and not being able to OC it -.-

I have all my peripherals.


I'm pretty sure you can do a similar build for under $800 with the OS


Without anything being on sale I made one very comparable one on NCIX but with a 5850 instead of the 5770 and it came to cost $980 without assembly. Now with this logic... even if something is on sale I'm sure I wont be saving much money. And pre-built just seems like an easier way to go if I'm not saving much.

http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/pcbuilderpreview.cfm?id=3682459&skus=63499-1-0|50063-1-0|59327-1-0|44264-1-0|56549-1-0|29812-1-0|56970-1-0|45271-1-0|58746-1-0|7843-0


That's because you're using SKU pricing with no pricematching at all..

A similar configuration would only cost you $844:

Assembly @ $50
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=7842

Intel Core i5 2500k & MSI P67A C43 @ $315
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62550&promoid=1301

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $35 ($25 after mail in rebate)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1301

PNY GTX 550 Ti @ $110
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59584&promoid=1301

Seagate Barracuda 1TB @ $110
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&promoid=1301

Corsair CX430 V2 @ $40 (pricematch with http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?&item_id=038031 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60345

Bitfenix Merc Alpha @ $40
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63256

Windows 7 Home Premium @ $98 (pricematch with http://www.hltechnology.com/one_prod.php?pid=209982 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271

Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo @ $30 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/237385/RR-212E-20PK-R1/COOLERMASTER/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64385

DVD Burner @ $16
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45667&promoid=1301
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 31 2011 18:50 GMT
#16906
Does it state anywhere that the mobo is a P67 or a Z68?

If not, you can do a 190 + 60 + 35 + 70 + 17 + 40 + 60 + 140 build that's better. At 612 or whatever that is. 711 with OS.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 31 2011 18:55 GMT
#16907
On January 01 2012 03:49 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 03:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On January 01 2012 03:32 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 03:22 Shikyo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
It IS really bad. It also has preloaded a thousand programs that tell you to activate them every day and that are a hassle to uninstall, every

single preloaded software is shareware so you dont actually get anything for free. I guess you get... a win7 so that's 100$. The mouse and keyboard are like 5$ total so please.

Also can you point me to where it says it's an overclockable configuration?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229283

Also why the hell would you buy that one if you can just buy this?

Really, how can these people be saying that's not a terrible offer?


Because Newegg doesn't ship to Canada.. lol? It's not bad compared to the majority of others.

Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 03:27 FiWiFaKi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
The thing is, I wont find a similar build on NCIX.com for under $800 with the OS already, especially not with the ridiculous HDD prices right now. On NCIX if they assemble it, it'll cost me $800-$850, so I think it'll save me quite a bit of time. The only thing I'm worried about is getting a H61 mobo and not being able to OC it -.-

I have all my peripherals.


I'm pretty sure you can do a similar build for under $800 with the OS


Without anything being on sale I made one very comparable one on NCIX but with a 5850 instead of the 5770 and it came to cost $980 without assembly. Now with this logic... even if something is on sale I'm sure I wont be saving much money. And pre-built just seems like an easier way to go if I'm not saving much.

http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/pcbuilderpreview.cfm?id=3682459&skus=63499-1-0|50063-1-0|59327-1-0|44264-1-0|56549-1-0|29812-1-0|56970-1-0|45271-1-0|58746-1-0|7843-0


That's because you're using SKU pricing with no pricematching at all..

A similar configuration would only cost you $844:

Assembly @ $50
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=7842

Intel Core i5 2500k & MSI P67A C43 @ $315
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62550&promoid=1301

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $35 ($25 after mail in rebate)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1301

PNY GTX 550 Ti @ $110
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59584&promoid=1301

Seagate Barracuda 1TB @ $110
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&promoid=1301

Corsair CX430 V2 @ $40 (pricematch with http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?&item_id=038031 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60345

Bitfenix Merc Alpha @ $40
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63256

Windows 7 Home Premium @ $98 (pricematch with http://www.hltechnology.com/one_prod.php?pid=209982 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271

Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo @ $30 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/237385/RR-212E-20PK-R1/COOLERMASTER/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64385

DVD Burner @ $16
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45667&promoid=1301


So do you think saving the $50 justifies the saved time I would have?

I mean people just thought the pre-built computer was horrid, but I feel it's quite on par with what can be gotten from NCIX =/
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 19:01:03
December 31 2011 19:00 GMT
#16908
On January 01 2012 03:55 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 03:49 skyR wrote:
On January 01 2012 03:39 FiWiFaKi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
On January 01 2012 03:32 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 03:22 Shikyo wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
It IS really bad. It also has preloaded a thousand programs that tell you to activate them every day and that are a hassle to uninstall, every

single preloaded software is shareware so you dont actually get anything for free. I guess you get... a win7 so that's 100$. The mouse and keyboard are like 5$ total so please.

Also can you point me to where it says it's an overclockable configuration?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229283

Also why the hell would you buy that one if you can just buy this?

Really, how can these people be saying that's not a terrible offer?


Because Newegg doesn't ship to Canada.. lol? It's not bad compared to the majority of others.

Show nested quote +
On January 01 2012 03:27 FiWiFaKi wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
The thing is, I wont find a similar build on NCIX.com for under $800 with the OS already, especially not with the ridiculous HDD prices right now. On NCIX if they assemble it, it'll cost me $800-$850, so I think it'll save me quite a bit of time. The only thing I'm worried about is getting a H61 mobo and not being able to OC it -.-

I have all my peripherals.


I'm pretty sure you can do a similar build for under $800 with the OS


Without anything being on sale I made one very comparable one on NCIX but with a 5850 instead of the 5770 and it came to cost $980 without assembly. Now with this logic... even if something is on sale I'm sure I wont be saving much money. And pre-built just seems like an easier way to go if I'm not saving much.

http://pc.ncix.com/pcbuilder/pcbuilderpreview.cfm?id=3682459&skus=63499-1-0|50063-1-0|59327-1-0|44264-1-0|56549-1-0|29812-1-0|56970-1-0|45271-1-0|58746-1-0|7843-0


That's because you're using SKU pricing with no pricematching at all..

A similar configuration would only cost you $844:

Assembly @ $50
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=7842

Intel Core i5 2500k & MSI P67A C43 @ $315
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62550&promoid=1301

Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $35 ($25 after mail in rebate)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55544&promoid=1301

PNY GTX 550 Ti @ $110
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59584&promoid=1301

Seagate Barracuda 1TB @ $110
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&promoid=1301

Corsair CX430 V2 @ $40 (pricematch with http://canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?&item_id=038031 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60345

Bitfenix Merc Alpha @ $40
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63256

Windows 7 Home Premium @ $98 (pricematch with http://www.hltechnology.com/one_prod.php?pid=209982 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271

Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo @ $30 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/237385/RR-212E-20PK-R1/COOLERMASTER/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64385

DVD Burner @ $16
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45667&promoid=1301


So do you think saving the $50 justifies the saved time I would have?

I mean people just thought the pre-built computer was horrid, but I feel it's quite on par with what can be gotten from NCIX =/


Uh no it isn't on par with what you get from paying a company to asasemble. You get to pick the components that go into the computer and all these components come with full length warranties.

On January 01 2012 03:50 Shikyo wrote:
Does it state anywhere that the mobo is a P67 or a Z68?

If not, you can do a 190 + 60 + 35 + 70 + 17 + 40 + 60 + 140 build that's better. At 612 or whatever that is. 711 with OS.


If you look at pictures, you can tell that it has a lower-end Biostar Z68 and some (most likely shit) power supply without a honeycomb grill.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 19:03:03
December 31 2011 19:00 GMT
#16909
Also what do you think with this combo pack on newegg.ca

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.755266&cm_sp=DIY_PC_Combos-_-755266-_-Combo

Paired with a 6850/6870?

So it'd be $680 plus whatever more for the GPU and Win7... So once again it comes to $900 =/
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 31 2011 19:02 GMT
#16910
Newegg = shit

The combo discountns accounts for the overpriced components.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
December 31 2011 19:04 GMT
#16911
Unless it states the family somewhere i am assuming H61 which is obviously cheaper. The PSU is probably very bad so expect it to die and possibly take shit down with it whenever the warranty runs out.

I don't see a cooler listed so it probably doesnt have one. Which is fine because the mobo is prob H61 anyway!

I agree that a similar non retarded configuration would be similar. Maybe place a call or something. I dont trust black boxes of mystery.
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skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 19:14:06
December 31 2011 19:07 GMT
#16912
You realize it comes to $900 because you're buying from an American retailer? Not to mention picking components you don't need.

If you want to build it yourself, don't want a DVD burner, don't want a heatsink than the configuration from NCIX would be roughly $750.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-31 20:40:40
December 31 2011 20:40 GMT
#16913
SkyR, so I decided I'm going to buy your $844 dollar configuration, but I also decided that I'm willing to spend some more money on a better GPU. So I was wondering if there are any options for about $180-$220 dollars. I'm really bad at finding those sale prices you find haha.

Also I'm buying it today and I work 4pm-11pm, so I need to make all my decisions quickly. Thank you so much!
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
December 31 2011 20:44 GMT
#16914
You can get a Powercolor Radeon HD6870 for $155: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57118&promoid=1301

I would also recommend changing the power supply from the CX430V2 to a $60 OCZ ZS 550: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=62391&promoid=1301
Cheater23
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States34 Posts
January 01 2012 02:08 GMT
#16915
What is your budget?

I'm hoping to spend about $700 total, But I'm willing to fork out a little more if that can't get decent computer with an i5 processor

What is your resolution?

1280x768

What are you using it for?

I use it for alot of gaming and would like to be able to stream content. But that's not a high priority

What is your upgrade cycle?

I upgrade my graphics card occasionally, but aside from that i just buy a new computer

When do you plan on building it?

I would like to begin within the next month

Do you plan on overclocking?

No overclocking, pretty straightforward use.

Do you need an Operating System?

no

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Possibly, if i can get one that can stream content. (which seems doubtful with my price range.)

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg would be preferable, but any American website I'm not opposed to
Josh_rakoons
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom1158 Posts
January 01 2012 02:19 GMT
#16916
On January 01 2012 11:08 Cheater23 wrote:
What is your budget?

I'm hoping to spend about $700 total, But I'm willing to fork out a little more if that can't get decent computer with an i5 processor

What is your resolution?

1280x768

What are you using it for?

I use it for alot of gaming and would like to be able to stream content. But that's not a high priority

What is your upgrade cycle?

I upgrade my graphics card occasionally, but aside from that i just buy a new computer

When do you plan on building it?

I would like to begin within the next month

Do you plan on overclocking?

No overclocking, pretty straightforward use.

Do you need an Operating System?

no

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Possibly, if i can get one that can stream content. (which seems doubtful with my price range.)

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg would be preferable, but any American website I'm not opposed to


When do you buy a new computer? 1,2,3 + years from buying previous one?

SLI'ing will have no difference in your ability to stream, streaming is almost entirely your CPU.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 01 2012 02:42 GMT
#16917
On January 01 2012 11:08 Cheater23 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?

I'm hoping to spend about $700 total, But I'm willing to fork out a little more if that can't get decent computer with an i5 processor

What is your resolution?

1280x768

What are you using it for?

I use it for alot of gaming and would like to be able to stream content. But that's not a high priority

What is your upgrade cycle?

I upgrade my graphics card occasionally, but aside from that i just buy a new computer

When do you plan on building it?

I would like to begin within the next month

Do you plan on overclocking?

No overclocking, pretty straightforward use.

Do you need an Operating System?

no

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Possibly, if i can get one that can stream content. (which seems doubtful with my price range.)

Where are you buying your parts from?

Newegg would be preferable, but any American website I'm not opposed to


This is what you want for around $650. If you have no intention of upgrading your ancient monitor than you cann downgrade to a Radeon HD6670 or 6770.

Intel Core i5 2400 @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

HIS Radeon HD6870 @ $150 ($130 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161389

500gb HDD @ $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299

2x4GB 1333MHz @ $32
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820576006

Asrock H61M-VS @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241

HAF 912 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Rosewill Capstone 450 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

DVD Burner @ $16
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 01 2012 02:46 GMT
#16918
i5 2400, asrock icafe usb3 h61, 8gb 1333, random dvdrw, haf 912, 6870, 500gb hdd, cx430

This would total around 640 or so. I guess you could change the graphics card to 560 Ti or somesuch if you want to max your budget
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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 03:21:48
January 01 2012 03:20 GMT
#16919
Hey all, I just wanted to say I finally built the budget computer I was researching.

Eventually got an i3-2120, some cheap MSI H61 mobo for $50, a 6870, tsunami 650w (came in a bundle with the CPU), 4gb ram and some cheap antec case. Cost $470 altogether.

Works beautifully. Runs BF3 and Skyrim on High with (this is an estimation so ignore it) 40-50fps on 1080p. Love it.
lalala
Cheater23
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States34 Posts
January 01 2012 03:46 GMT
#16920
thanks guys

One more question, would the first motherboard be better then the second? It's not much more, and I went ahead and downgraded the graphics card to a Radeon HD6670, so the total still ends up around $600


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