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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 19:11:08
January 01 2012 19:10 GMT
#16941
On January 02 2012 03:52 ChriseC wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Can anyone say if my pc compenents fit well together?

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/810/pc2h.png/

GPU is missing in this list but it will be a sapphire 6950 2gb full retail version.

Any tips what to do better? and i dont want to spend alot more money

and thx to all the people helping in this thread <3



Component compatibility is okay. Since you are getting somewhat high-end components, I would suggest spending more money on a better motherboard with a 8x 8x configuration and slightly more phases with better mosfet heatsinks. You're also missing an aftermarket heatsink, one is recommended for overclocking.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 01 2012 19:49 GMT
#16942
On January 02 2012 03:52 ChriseC wrote:
Can anyone say if my pc compenents fit well together?

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/810/pc2h.png/

GPU is missing in this list but it will be a sapphire 6950 2gb full retail version.

Any tips what to do better? and i dont want to spend alot more money

and thx to all the people helping in this thread <3

Btw I have no idea why you're buying from there as the same stuff from mindfactory.de would be way cheaper, also for the psu I'd instead get a super flower golden green 450 and for the optical drive I'd get a dvd burner instead of just reader. Also for mobo I'd just instead get a asrock pro3 instead of SE and also I'd go with something like Thermalright True Spirit 120 for the cooler
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 22:25:37
January 01 2012 22:24 GMT
#16943
still deciding between keeping my 560 ti or waiting for 28nm generation cards
<3 Kim Taeyeon
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 01 2012 22:28 GMT
#16944
A GTX 560 Ti is significantly less expensive than what the 7950 and 7970 will be at during launch so...
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
January 01 2012 22:51 GMT
#16945
I might be willing to wait for the lower cards like 7850, 7870, or even ndivia's launch. Just hoping they would do some price drops to entice my pocket.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 01 2012 22:56 GMT
#16946
If you need it now than buy it now. If the current card you have is adequate than you can wait.
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
January 01 2012 22:56 GMT
#16947
thanks for your input! helpful and knowledgeable as always
<3 Kim Taeyeon
STYDawn
Profile Joined December 2011
137 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 00:21:32
January 02 2012 00:07 GMT
#16948
I have a precision t7400 that i want to use for gaming. I plan to replace the 2 quadros for one gtx 540ti. Will it be able to run new games well(bf3, crysis,etc.)?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
January 02 2012 00:10 GMT
#16949
what is a gtx 540?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 02 2012 00:12 GMT
#16950
T7400 is a mobile processor that's five years old. There's also no such thing as a GTX 540, do you mean a GT540M? Whether you will be able to run the newer games well depends on what settings you are aiming for and what resolution you play at. I don't even think such a low-end card has an MXM option...
STYDawn
Profile Joined December 2011
137 Posts
January 02 2012 00:15 GMT
#16951
On January 02 2012 09:12 skyR wrote:
T7400 is a mobile processor that's five years old. There's also no such thing as a GTX 540, do you mean a GT540M? Whether you will be able to run the newer games well depends on what settings you are aiming for and what resolution you play at. I don't even think such a low-end card has an MXM option...



I was talking about a Dell Precision T7400 computer/workstation.
http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/precision-t7400/pd
And i meant gtx 550ti sorry.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 02 2012 00:21 GMT
#16952
The GTX 550 Ti would play most games reasonably well on decent settings at 1080p but it's not a card I would recommend purchasing due to its pricing. It offers similar performance to a Radeon HD6770 but is priced $20-$30 more.
STYDawn
Profile Joined December 2011
137 Posts
January 02 2012 00:26 GMT
#16953
Ok thanks, but will this Xeon-based computer support the new video games?
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
January 02 2012 00:26 GMT
#16954
My computer is quite old and shitty so I need a new one. I don't really know what is good/needed so I figured I would ask here. As for the requested info in the OP:

Budget: maybe ~800?
Resolution: 1920x1080 but I don't mind slightly lowering it in games I guess
Purpose: Gaming (League of Legends, BroodWar, StarCraft 2, WoW, StarWars: The Old Republic) streaming those games (mainly streaming bw but considering LoL/SC2 after upgrade).
Upgrade Cycle: Dunno, I don't upgrade much since I don't play many new games
Overclocking: I don't plan on overclocking
Operating system: Currently using 32bit vista so yeah -_-

Don't plan on having 2 gpu and I guess I'm buying primarily from newegg

I probably don't need too large of a hard drive. Currently I have a 500gb that is roughly half full 1 TB would never be filled.

Any part recommendations would be greatly appreciated ^.^
Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 00:38:39
January 02 2012 00:36 GMT
#16955
Planning on ordering a stack of parts tomorrow, just posting it here before I do to ensure that I didn't miss any obvious errors / improvements.

Purpose is primarily gaming. Currently playing SC2, WoW, Skyrim, SW:TOR. D3 will definitely be added when it comes out (or I get beta-access). I play most of my games in windowed-fullscreen mode with a browser open on my second monitor (and often a SC2 stream in it). Primary monitor is 1920x1080, secondary is 1400x1050.

I'll do some overclocking. Not gonna push the very limits, but I'll take any free performance that I can get.

Items:
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500k - Obvious choice
HSF: Scythe Mugen 2 rev B - This one seems to be quite popular. Either this one or the Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO.
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3 - This seems to get solid reviews for a budget Z68 board
RAM: Corsair XMS3, 2x4 GB, 1333mhz - Not much to say here. Various other options available within 1-2 euros of price, but it won't matter all that much.
GPU: GF 560 Ti (MSI Twin Frozr II) - Doubted between this and the 6950 1GB. The 560 Ti is a bit cheaper and availability is much better at the moment. The cooling system allows for reasonable OCing.
SSD: Corsair M4 128 GB - I'd really like to save a bit here, but I fear that a 64 GB drive will just fill up too quickly.
CASE: Nexus Prominent R - This case gets good reviews for its sound-damping and ease-of-use. I like a bit of sound reduction (and my wife likes it even more, especially since I unleashed Cherry MX Blues on her recently).
PSU: be quiet! Pure Power L7 530W - Is it possible/worth dropping down to the 430W version? It might be pushing it a bit...

I already have: regular harddisk, optical drive and everything that takes place outside the case. OS I'll get via my wifes research institute.

The setup should last for about 2 years or so. Upgrades may come when they are needed. I don't think I'll ever go for SLI or Crossfire. All this together adds up to about 870 euro in the Netherlands. I mixed and matched shops with good reviews, prices and stock from the main Dutch computer-price-comparison website: http://www.tweakers.net/pricewatch.

If possible, pushing the budget lower is preferred over expanding it upwards. So if anyone has any suggestions, I'd be happy to see them.
Such flammable little insects!
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
January 02 2012 00:39 GMT
#16956
On January 02 2012 09:26 STYDawn wrote:
Ok thanks, but will this Xeon-based computer support the new video games?


It would be okay. The processor may be a problem with newer games that are more CPU bound.


On January 02 2012 09:26 SnowFantasy wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
My computer is quite old and shitty so I need a new one. I don't really know what is good/needed so I figured I would ask here. As for the requested info in the OP:

Budget: maybe ~800?
Resolution: 1920x1080 but I don't mind slightly lowering it in games I guess
Purpose: Gaming (League of Legends, BroodWar, StarCraft 2, WoW, StarWars: The Old Republic) streaming those games (mainly streaming bw but considering LoL/SC2 after upgrade).
Upgrade Cycle: Dunno, I don't upgrade much since I don't play many new games
Overclocking: I don't plan on overclocking
Operating system: Currently using 32bit vista so yeah -_-

Don't plan on having 2 gpu and I guess I'm buying primarily from newegg

I probably don't need too large of a hard drive. Currently I have a 500gb that is roughly half full 1 TB would never be filled.

Any part recommendations would be greatly appreciated ^.^


Total: $781

You didn't actually say whether you wanted or needed a new operating system... all you said was that you had Vista so I didn't include this in your total cost. You can continue using Vista and just re-install using the 64bit version instead. If you need to allocate budget for Windows 7 because you can't get it through MSDNAA or with a student discount than you can downgrade to a Crucial M4 64gb for $110, freeing up $90 for the Windows 7. Though 64gb isn't a lot of space and you won't be able to fit both WoW and SWTOR on it comfortably.

You can re-use your old HDDs for storage.

Intel Core i5 2400 @ $190
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

Sapphire Radeon HD6870 @ $165
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948

Crucial M4 128gb @ $200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442

Patroit 2x4GB 1600MHz @ $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220570

Asrock H61M-VS @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241

HAF 912 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

Rosewill Capstone 450 @ $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

DVD Burner @ $16
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151244
spscannon
Profile Joined November 2011
146 Posts
January 02 2012 03:13 GMT
#16957
just asking to make sure (probably a really noob question)
but
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314
will work with a h61 board without any issues right?

Thanks for any help you guys can give
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 03:23:35
January 02 2012 03:23 GMT
#16958
On January 02 2012 12:13 spscannon wrote:
just asking to make sure (probably a really noob question)
but
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314
will work with a h61 board without any issues right?

Thanks for any help you guys can give


Yes, but I believe H61 boards only support up to 1333MHz memory. So if you can find 1333MHz cheaper go with that. If that memory is the cheapest, I believe the RAM will just auto adjust itself to 1333MHz by the motherboard.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-02 03:46:49
January 02 2012 03:45 GMT
#16959
On January 02 2012 12:23 FabledIntegral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 12:13 spscannon wrote:
just asking to make sure (probably a really noob question)
but
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314
will work with a h61 board without any issues right?

Thanks for any help you guys can give


Yes, but I believe H61 boards only support up to 1333MHz memory. So if you can find 1333MHz cheaper go with that. If that memory is the cheapest, I believe the RAM will just auto adjust itself to 1333MHz by the motherboard.


I see language like this to describe RAM all the time (so this is not directed at you specifically), but unless my own interpretation is way off, this kind of statement comes from an unrefined understanding of RAM, leading to unnecessary confusion.

RAM is just electronic storage of a certain architecture involving one transistor and capacitor per bit, that gets accessed from whatever is connected to it. The speed at which it's accessed is determined by whatever is toggling it. Higher-speed RAM is just guaranteed to have low enough gate delays in the electronics to have the data ready in less time as opposed to more time. Let's say for a certain type of access, it will take X amount of time. If you grab the data in 1.2 * X amount of time, then it will have the data ready and it will work. If you grab the data in 1.5 * X amount of time (which would happen at a lower clock speed or higher timings, compared to the 1.2 * X case), it will also work. If you get the data from the RAM in 0.9 * X amount of time (higher clock speed), you'll get garbage results and your system will quickly crash from working with the corrupted data.

Thus the RAM is not auto-adjusting itself as much as being accessed at the standard 1333 MHz rate. If it's rated at the faster speed, it should work at the slower speed, where it's given more time. So yes it'll work.
AAyeR
Profile Joined December 2011
United States138 Posts
January 02 2012 07:34 GMT
#16960
thank you for all the help (myrmidon & skyr), Just need a bit more help choosing hd/mobo/vid/card

cpu i5 sandy bridge 190$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115074

ram g skill ripjaw 39$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231311

hd hitachi 80$ or seagate 80$?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822145299
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148699

cooler master case 60$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

win 7 99$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986

Rosewill Capstone Power 60$
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182066

MOBO ASROCK 75$ or 60$ cafe or or 75$ ASUS and 100$ that is out of stock so i can't get it.. need to order asap.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157236
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157246
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131724
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157230

Video Card 164$/150$/
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102948
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908
<<<<<ACCEPTING SUGGESTIONS FOR VID CARD ALSO>>>>>>>>>>>

thanks in advance
190+39+80+60+99+60+75+160ish=763$
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