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Gara
Canada435 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
edit: on second thought, that's not necessarily true for Rosewill's branded version, if they asked Super Flower to set the OCP / OPP / etc. trip points to actually cut it off at a lower point. But as mentioned, that's irrelevant since you're never going to break 300W (DC) with those kinds of parts, even if you decide to overclock the GTX 560 Ti. The extreme.outervision calculator overestimates a bit in general, and it does power supply recommendations based on looking up the listed TDP of the processors. Listed TDP of i5-2400 is 95W, but it'll hardly use over 50W at full CPU load with the integrated graphics turned off, in reality, so the calculator's estimate is even more off. It's this unit, just under Rosewill branding and very small changes maybe: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story2&reid=250 750W under Rosewill branding: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=266 At 550W, the 450W version is still well in spec: http://www.itocp.com/htmls/48/n-1448-8.html On December 11 2011 05:59 Gara wrote: Random question: is there an easy visual way of figuring out how many power phases a motherboard has? I find that a lot of retailers don't provide that information, and the manufacturers' websites are all a pain-in-the-ass to navigate. In general, you can count the number of chokes (inductors; look like little boxes generally) around the CPU socket, where each inductor corresponds to one phase. Keep in mind that some may correspond to power phases for memory controller, integrated graphics, etc. http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Everything-You-Need-to-Know-About-The-Motherboard-Voltage-Regulator-Circuit/616/4 | ||
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Phyre
United States1288 Posts
Thanks again, I'm going to put in the order tonight and hopefully I'll be enjoying Skyrim is all it's cranked up glory for the holidays.  | ||
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TT1
Canada10011 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On December 11 2011 06:54 TT1 wrote: god fucking damnit when will the hdd shortage end? Several months probably? though depending on your interpretation of "end" maybe it's more than a year. | ||
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zickoray
United States366 Posts
) but i was curious if it had the power to run games like skyrim and BF3 and defiantly sc2 at high settings (not Maxed but nice looking) and any bump ups to hardware in the 700$-600$ price range would be great thanks allIntel Core i5 2320 @ $175 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63959&promoid=1244 GSkill Sniper 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $30 (w/ promo code EMCJHKJ27, ends 12/7) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417 HIS Radeon HD6850 @ $140 ($130 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161384 Asrock H61M-VS @ $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 Bitfenix Merc Alpha @ $40 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&promoid=1244 Antec Neo Eco 400C @ $35 ($25 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $95 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1244 DVD Burner @ $17 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151252 Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $90 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468 | ||
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Legatus Lanius
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On December 11 2011 07:25 zickoray wrote: How does this look? skyR built it for me (thanks a bunch ) but i was curious if it had the power to run games like skyrim and BF3 and defiantly sc2 at high settings (not Maxed but nice looking) and any bump ups to hardware in the 700$-600$ price range would be great thanks allIntel Core i5 2320 @ $175 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63959&promoid=1244 GSkill Sniper 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $30 (w/ promo code EMCJHKJ27, ends 12/7) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231417 HIS Radeon HD6850 @ $140 ($130 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161384 Asrock H61M-VS @ $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157241 Bitfenix Merc Alpha @ $40 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&promoid=1244 Antec Neo Eco 400C @ $35 ($25 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029 Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $95 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=45271&promoid=1244 DVD Burner @ $17 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151252 Seagate Barracuda 500GB @ $90 http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=63468 6850 will be fine for sc2 @ high, skyrim with fxaa enabled http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/skyrim-performance-benchmark,3074-5.html and not enough for bf3 on high | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
You can allocate the funds in a different way if you want. You can drop down to a core i3 2100 which will free up ~$60 for you to get a Radeon HD6870 instead and possibly get a ~500w power supply if you wanted to. | ||
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Gara
Canada435 Posts
On December 11 2011 06:00 Myrmidon wrote: In general, you can count the number of chokes (inductors; look like little boxes generally) around the CPU socket, where each inductor corresponds to one phase. Keep in mind that some may correspond to power phases for memory controller, integrated graphics, etc. http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Everything-You-Need-to-Know-About-The-Motherboard-Voltage-Regulator-Circuit/616/4 Ah, cool! I like techpowerup for it`s great layman`s explanation of technology, hadn`t read the motherboard one before... although their case reviews leave something to be desired. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
What i want to pay for it is 800-1000€. What i have in mind right now is : CPU : i5-2500 not sure k or not but since i'm not really into overclocking i think i can save 10-15 bucks here skipping the k unless i missed something i also plan on using the boxed HSF . Motherboard : ASRock Z68 Pro3 RAM : 8GB-Kit Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1333 CL9 GPU : Gigabyte GeForce GTX 560 Ti OC, 1024MB GDDR5 Case : Cooltek K2 - Rev. C Full Black - Midi Tower, ATX, I honestly have no clue about cases and want to spend the least amount of money possibly for the case , i chose a pretty cheap one here BUT it has pretty good reviews . Could spend more here but only if i absolutely have to. PSU : Super-Flower SF650P14P 650W HDD :Seagate Barracuda 7200 500GB SSD : OCZ SSD Vertex 2 90GB I don't really need a SSD but i'd like to have one for my OS and some other important stuff OS : Win 7 Home 64bit DVD Burner Random DvD Burner for Cheap How does this look ? It's mainly for gaming but also some programming , animating , rendering but nothing too major in that regard. Some feedback would be greatly appreciated on what i need to change not really up to date on most things since i haven't build a PC in years . | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
Motherboard is probably needlessly expensive since you're not overclocking. If you wanted USB3, AsRock P67 Pro3 SE is about 15 euros cheaper anyway. Or try the cheaper Asus P8H61/USB3 if you weren't going to ned more than two RAM slots. I would avoid first-gen SandForce SSDs like the Vertex 2, which had quite a high failure/problems rate. Intel 320 80GB is similarly priced and should be much more reliable, with similar performance (except compressible sequential writes, which are hardly important at all for how most people use SSDs): http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=45078&agid=1145 That's an older Super Flower model that isn't so good. It's generally much better to get the lower-wattage, higher-quality models, particularly when you won't be using over 300W ever anyway. You'll have a bit lower power consumption and less heat from the PSU that way too, and it will be more reliable and better performing. Amazon 450W is pretty decent for a budget unit, so long as you don't mind the LEDs: http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30074&agid=1627 BitFenix Merc Alpha is probably a better case (more well-known globally, anyway): http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50575&agid=631 And you linked Windows 7 and said Vista. I think you know what you mean. edit: you can save about 8 euros by just getting the normal Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti. It's the same exact hardware, just without the overclock (which you can set up yourself equivalently on the non-OC version anyway). http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=45569&agid=707 | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
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SnowSC2
United States678 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
See here: http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=170&Itemid=1&limit=1&limitstart=5 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/wyMVl.jpg) | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On December 11 2011 12:42 Shikyo wrote: That rosewill 450W gold PSU is a rebranded super flower isnt it, at least has the exact same specs Yeah it's Golden Green Pro (non-modular). Somehow 450W through 750W is priced at $60, $80, $100, $120, making the lowest-wattage one the best deal, compared to alternatives at each price point. It's about time we got it in the States...other than like Kingwin Lazer Gold 550W for like $110+ and other rebrands costing even more. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
60, 80, 100, 120 is a bit strange pricing, in Europe it's like 53, 62, 72, 80, 92 for 400, 450, 550, 650, 750w. So basically in US they rip you off with the higher wattage units while the 450W unit seems underpriced(60$ is totally insane for that by the way, that's going to be the only thing I'll recommend). | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
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