EPTOn December 11 2011 13:21 skyR wrote:
You realize a euro is worth more than a dollar....
You realize a euro is worth more than a dollar....
In europe they have taxes included so they balance it quite a bit, tax is 19-23% depending on country
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
In europe they have taxes included so they balance it quite a bit, tax is 19-23% depending on country | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On December 11 2011 13:24 Myrmidon wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I think he means that the price differences (percentage) between the different-wattage models aren't consistent. Pricing on the Capstone 750W is decent, and everything down from there is progressively better for the buyer. I don't understand? It's $20 for every additional 100w =\ seems pretty consistent. On December 11 2011 13:24 Shikyo wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On December 11 2011 13:21 skyR wrote: You realize a euro is worth more than a dollar.... In europe they have taxes included so they balance it quite a bit, tax is 19-23% depending on country Most people (basically everyone) that buys from Newegg don't pay taxes. | ||
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TT1
Canada10011 Posts
here are the settings, does everything look normal(sorry but im clueless when it comes to tech related stuff tt)? ![[image loading]](http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5624/cpuyw.png) edit: oh yea and my motherboard is a ASUS M4A77TD, dunno if that might help | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 11 2011 13:33 skyR wrote: I don't understand? It's $20 for every additional 100w =\ seems pretty consistent. Most people (basically everyone) that buys from Newegg don't pay taxes. I know that, that's exactly what I'm saying... In europe there's taxes, in america there's not, so that means that european prices are higher than you'd think if you just compare the currencies. Did you even read what I said or... Also those PSUs were in europe first and it's ~10 euros difference per PSU here so in US its a larger difference I really don't get what you're even arguing about, you're missing the point completely in like 3 seperate instances. | ||
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zickoray
United States366 Posts
 and "fine" by me is not choppy frames smooth game play | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On December 11 2011 13:36 Shikyo wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On December 11 2011 13:33 skyR wrote: I don't understand? It's $20 for every additional 100w =\ seems pretty consistent. Most people (basically everyone) that buys from Newegg don't pay taxes. I know that, that's exactly what I'm saying... In europe there's taxes, in america there's not, so that means that european prices are higher than you'd think if you just compare the currencies. Did you even read what I said or... Also those PSUs were in europe first and it's ~10 euros difference per PSU here so in US its a larger difference I really don't get what you're even arguing about, you're missing the point completely in like 3 seperate instances. I'm not missing the point. You're comparing price totally ignoring the fact that it's two different markets and two different brands. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On December 11 2011 13:34 TT1 wrote: i know this might be a little off topic but i recently bought a phenom x6 1090t and for some reason my comp feels alot slower than it did with my older cpu(amd athlon x4 630) here are the settings, does everything look normal(sorry but im clueless when it comes to tech related stuff tt)? edit: oh yea and my motherboard is a ASUS M4A77TD, dunno if that might help What do you mean "slower"? Yes that screenshot looks normal because that's Cool n' Quiet kicking in and downclocking your CPU...because you're currently in the desktop. Does it perform worse ingame, for instance? Edit: removed huge image. | ||
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TT1
Canada10011 Posts
On December 11 2011 13:56 Womwomwom wrote: What do you mean "slower"? Yes that screenshot looks normal because that's Cool n' Quiet kicking in and downclocking your CPU...because you're currently in the desktop. Does it perform worse ingame, for instance? should i disable cool n' quiet? it feels fine ingame but when im opening stuff/browsing the net it feels alot slower | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On December 11 2011 13:33 skyR wrote: I don't understand? It's $20 for every additional 100w =\ seems pretty consistent. European pricing: 750W is under 150% the price of 450W. US pricing: 750W is 200% the price of 450W. Even between 550W and 750W in general...the 750W in the same series is rarely priced at 150% This makes some sense, since the cost it takes to make (and ship) the higher-wattage models is not that much higher at all. Profit margins are higher on the highest-end model of a series, even with compressed pricing. | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
If it works fine within games, then I doubt its actually sluggish doing desktop tasks. Perhaps you expected more from a Phenom II X6 upgrade? Edit: One thing you can check is whether or not turbo core is enabled within the BIOS...this should help you out doing desktop tasks. Another thing you can try is changing your theme to something that isn't Windows 7 Basic. Judging by the task bar colour and the icon sizes, you're currently using this theme and frankly it feels like shit. | ||
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matiK23
United States963 Posts
I'm trying to get the cheapest, but good hardware. Basically best bang for your buck deal. Not sure the parts I list fit into that category, but I would like to know your suggestions. Intel Core i3-2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078 GIGABYTE GA-H61M-DS2 http://www.newegg.com/Product /Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128527 G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231396 XFX HD-567X-ZNF3 Radeon HD 5670 1GB 128-bit DDR5***** http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150467 LG 22X Super-Multi DVD Burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136240 LIAN LI PC-Q08B http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112265 Acer V173DJB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824114018 *****The 5670 is discontinued so my option is eBay, unless there is a cheaper option that does bare minimum for this particular setup. If I could do better on any of these items, let me know. Again, cheap but effective is the theme for this project. I'm also not too sure on which PSU to buy. Ideally, the smaller the ITX, the better. But I want to know which PSU would combo great with the smaller cases in terms of airflow, and also if I need additional fans for cooling. I'm also on the market for a HD--2TB preferably. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 11 2011 13:52 skyR wrote: I'm not missing the point. You're comparing price totally ignoring the fact that it's two different markets and two different brands. Yes you are, luckily Myrmidon has me covered. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On December 11 2011 14:42 Shikyo wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On December 11 2011 13:52 skyR wrote: I'm not missing the point. You're comparing price totally ignoring the fact that it's two different markets and two different brands. Yes you are, luckily Myrmidon has me covered. The Capstones are priced relatively to its competitors and Rosewill doesn't have the brand reputation of everyone else so I didn't understand what you were trying to say since you provided no explanation. | ||
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TT1
Canada10011 Posts
On December 11 2011 14:13 Womwomwom wrote: I probably wouldn't mess with it, its good to have decent power management. There's a program named PhenomMsrTweaker, which lets you adjust the P states if you really, really think its a problem. If it works fine within games, then I doubt its actually sluggish doing desktop tasks. Perhaps you expected more from a Phenom II X6 upgrade? Edit: One thing you can check is whether or not turbo core is enabled within the BIOS...this should help you out doing desktop tasks. Another thing you can try is changing your theme to something that isn't Windows 7 Basic. Judging by the task bar colour and the icon sizes, you're currently using this theme and frankly it feels like shit. well for some odd reason my windows processor rating dropped down from 5.9 to 4.1 after i changed my cpu to the phenom 1090t edit:ugh fuck this i think im just gonna buy a new comp, this shit is turning out to be a massive headache.. wanted to wait until summertime so i could put together a better build tt edit: ![[image loading]](http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7232/processor.png) i was told that the standard rating should be around 7.2 =/ dunno why its scoring so low | ||
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
On December 11 2011 14:39 matiK23 wrote: So I decided to buy myself a mini-ITX to stream console games from my Hauppauge HD PVR. I WILL NOT be playing any games on it. It's basically an antenna for my console games for streamers to see. I'm trying to get the cheapest, but good hardware. Basically best bang for your buck deal. Not sure the parts I list fit into that category, but I would like to know your suggestions. Intel Core i3-2100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115078 GIGABYTE GA-H61M-DS2 http://www.newegg.com/Product /Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128527 G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231396 XFX HD-567X-ZNF3 Radeon HD 5670 1GB 128-bit DDR5***** http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150467 LG 22X Super-Multi DVD Burner http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136240 LIAN LI PC-Q08B http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112265 Acer V173DJB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824114018 *****The 5670 is discontinued so my option is eBay, unless there is a cheaper option that does bare minimum for this particular setup. If I could do better on any of these items, let me know. Again, cheap but effective is the theme for this project. I'm also not too sure on which PSU to buy. Ideally, the smaller the ITX, the better. But I want to know which PSU would combo great with the smaller cases in terms of airflow, and also if I need additional fans for cooling. I'm also on the market for a HD--2TB preferably. If you aren't going to play games on it, I'm fairly sure you don't need a discrete GPU. The Intel HD2000/HD3000 isn't half bad to be frankly honest. Does your streaming software support Intel's QuickSync? I dunno but it could ultimately determine processor/motherboard choices. I think a good case/PSU option would be a Silverstone SG05. You honestly don't need more than a decent 300W PSU since you aren't putting a very powerful GPU into this machine. You don't need a lot of airflow either due to the extremely low power draw of the processor. The main problem with the case is that it can't really handle full sized 3.5" hard drives but I don't think using laptop hard drives is honestly a problem. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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Rachnar
France1526 Posts
have you installed all the motherboard software? | ||
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TT1
Canada10011 Posts
On December 11 2011 18:11 Rachnar wrote: Very strange, my x6 1090t gives me a 7.5 lol have you installed all the motherboard software? no i didnt install anything(using old BIOS from previous processor), im sure the problem is because i didnt upgrade my BIOS which is why it doesnt recognize my new processor(and its setting everything to the safest settings), i googled it to see if i could upgrade the BIOS myself but it looked way too complicated so im just gonna have a professional fix it | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
Sorry i didnt read this thread earlier. You need to update your BIOS. It is relatively simple and TL can walk you through it. Sometimes professionals like to charge an arm and a leg for this kind of thing. For future reference, this is pretty much the one and ONLY time one should reflash there BIOS. If you come across almost any other problem and someone tells you to update BIOS, ignore them. | ||
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Kleataurus
Australia56 Posts
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