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Womwomwom
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Kleataurus
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Womwomwom
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TooN
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One more thing. I have enough for a 64GB Crucial M4 SSD. I would like to use it as my OS boot up and some applications. I want to know, if its worth the 110 I have to spend. Is it worth all the performance that I hear? | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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gruff
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Medrea
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Shauni
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On December 12 2011 05:58 Medrea wrote: I sometimes wonder about that. I keep my PC fairly clean and maintained and my system already loads up everything except games instantly. How more instant can an SSD make things? My OS is already booted into before my monitor even fades from black! Either your monitor switches on really slow or you run a 8ghz overclocked bulldozer. Even then, the harddrive will still limit quite a few things including OS boot. Or well, if you run a lightweight linux OS or like windows 98 with a current computer you won't notice much of a difference since there isn't as much to load. for example | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On December 12 2011 05:58 Medrea wrote: I sometimes wonder about that. I keep my PC fairly clean and maintained and my system already loads up everything except games instantly. How more instant can an SSD make things? My OS is already booted into before my monitor even fades from black! Play World of Warcraft or any game that requires to load a lot of textures upon logging on and you'll soon realize your HDD is shit in comparison to a SSD. The difference is also pretty noticeable if you have a lot of startup programs. | ||
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Medrea
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I dont have these issues the left computer seems to be having. I dunno I must have captured magic i guess. For games though makes sense. Yeah but SC2 and the like has you wait upon the other guy so...... ASUS motherboards used to have those mini SSD's on them that had a mini OS. Those were neat if all you wanted to do was browse for a moment. I miss those. What happened to them? | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
For just the OS, web browsing (just loading that by itself is not much obviously), multiplayer games which require waiting on others to load, and relatively lightweight programs, it's not a big deal really. | ||
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Medrea
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On December 12 2011 07:01 Myrmidon wrote: Ever regularly load MS Office, Adobe products, CAD programs, A/V capture and editing programs, MATLAB / mathematics programs, Visual Studio / other IDEs, system utilities, web browser, other networking programs? At the same time!? Madness! | ||
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
To be honest, the worst performance and thrashing can be avoided by just having more than one storage device, even if they're all mechanical. i.e. you don't want a virus scan, a million torrents, and some large transcoding job all hitting the same disc while you're trying to load programs off of it, or it will cry. | ||
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Myrmidon
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MisterFred
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Edit: I know the difference between what the RAIDs are supposed to do for you. I was just unaware that RAID 0 did not increase certain (what seems to me to be the more important) types of performance and was seeking more information. | ||
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Medrea
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On December 12 2011 07:58 MisterFred wrote: Wait... isn't random access like the big important think for loading programs & playing games like World of Warcraft? So am I hearing RAID [meaning 0 or whatever the HDD speed increase one is] only really helps in transferring large files or batches of files? Not in everyday casual/student use? Edit: I know the difference between what the RAIDs are supposed to do for you. I was just unaware that RAID 0 did not increase certain (what seems to me to be the more important) types of performance and was seeking more information. Maybe "wouldn't help much at all" is a bit too strong, but...having multiple hard drives is not going to help any one of them move the arm to the correct place. Hence to access a different part of the RAID (or single drive), you will still need to wait. Realistically, loading programs--particularly games, what with all the large chunks of assets--will involve some large sequential accesses that would be faster in a RAID (non-1). So you need to think, for a particular workload, how much time is spent moving the arm to the correct place vs. actually reading or writing data. RAID (non-1) will speed up the actual reading or writing of data, but not the access times. If you need to grab a lot of small files scattered around, then that's bad news for mechanical drives, be they in RAID or not. That's why using a fairly cheap flash memory drive (much slower than SSDs) for ReadyBoost caching can improve performance. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
Not that I really need to know, except for dream computer purposes. | ||
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