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On September 26 2011 11:49 TexDrum wrote:
After you assemble a computer, how do you install an OS on it? (What happens when you boot it up without an OS?)
Nothing. It just sits at the POST screen. You just hit DEL to enter BIOS and set boot priority to DVD-Drive, insert installation disc, install operating system, reboot, go back into BIOS and set it to HDD.
Why... you're never going to come close to the 34a provided even with an overclocked GTX 560 Ti and a 2500k...
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On September 26 2011 11:50 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2011 11:49 TexDrum wrote:
After you assemble a computer, how do you install an OS on it? (What happens when you boot it up without an OS?) Nothing. It just sits at the POST screen. You just hit DEL to enter BIOS and set boot priority to DVD-Drive, insert installation disc, install operating system, reboot, go back into BIOS and set it to HDD.
Oh alright, thank you very much!
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Well simply because it's already cutting it pretty close at max load and assuming he's planning on using the computer for around 3 years the PSU's generally going to become slightly weaker, but I guess if he keeps it at around 1.3v and 4.5 Ghz that wouldn't happen.
I guess that poorly regulated 12V lane kind of bothers me long-term as those problems are mostly fixed in the 550W version. Then again that probably won't even matter...
US PSUs so complicated, on EU I'd just recommend Super Flower.
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So im wondering if micro-shuttering is still an issue im looking at sli gtx 460. If it is still an issue what would be a fit replacment for price of the cards.
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On September 26 2011 12:18 rv238 wrote:
So im wondering if micro-shuttering is still an issue im looking at sli gtx 460. If it is still an issue what would be a fit replacment for price of the cards.
depends on what you see as an issue, but generally yes. 6950 / 560 Ti normally.
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Ok... so I feel really dumb, but I really need help. My brother is building his computer out of the parts I selected for him, and he couldn't find the place where the Reset SW is on the board (reset switch). Nor could he find hte POWER SW, or Power LED's. I told him to look at the manual to find it, he couldn't. So I went to help him. I can't find it either, and I can't find it anywhere on my friggin' manual. I just can't figure out where hte fuck it's supposed to go. I have read every single page of the manual and it's not mentioned once. I didn't have this issue when I built my own computer because it was clearly labeled...
http://www.msi.com/product/mb/H61M-P23--B3-.html
That's the motherboard. Am I doing something wrong?
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It's the header labeled as JFP1. It is in your manual, page 18.
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On September 26 2011 12:26 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2011 12:18 rv238 wrote:
So im wondering if micro-shuttering is still an issue im looking at sli gtx 460. If it is still an issue what would be a fit replacment for price of the cards. depends on what you see as an issue, but generally yes. 6950 / 560 Ti normally.
Horse shit. SLI 460s is enough to run almost every game maxed with smooth frames. I've had no visible graphics issues that weren't traceable to something else. Microstuttering is the silliest reason to avoid SLI. The delays are almost inevitably shorter than frame time at 60 FPS anyways, so you can't notice it.
Go with a legit reason, like noise, heat, power consumption, and the tinkering involved.
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Hey TL
I need a new computer and would really like some help. I would like to start streaming, so any devices which help in that direction will be appreciated  . Thanks for taking your time.
What is your budget?
Around 1000$, can go a little up if needed.
What is your resolution?
1280x1024 usually.
What are you using it for?
Gaming SC2, would like to start streaming.
What is your upgrade cycle?
Longer upgrade cycle, 2+ years.
When do you plan on building it?
I plan on getting my computer asap, preferrably within a month.
Do you plan on overclocking?
I don't have plans on overclocking (I am a noob at computers btw, but maybe I will overclock when streaming?)
Do you need an Operating System?
Yeah, I would need an Operating System.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
I don't have any plans regarding adding another GPU.
Where are you buying your parts from?
I am from Denmark, Europe - so of course I would like some devices available here, lol ;-)
Thanks a lot for reading this and I hope someone will help me out.
Take care
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^^If you are ordering online you can post a few links to some danish sites if you want people to give you more specific suggestions regarding price.
Also it could be good if you clarifies if you plan to upgrade your monitor soon as you probably won't need to spend $1000 with such low resolution.
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On September 26 2011 12:38 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2011 12:26 Shikyo wrote:On September 26 2011 12:18 rv238 wrote:
So im wondering if micro-shuttering is still an issue im looking at sli gtx 460. If it is still an issue what would be a fit replacment for price of the cards. depends on what you see as an issue, but generally yes. 6950 / 560 Ti normally. Horse shit. SLI 460s is enough to run almost every game maxed with smooth frames. I've had no visible graphics issues that weren't traceable to something else. Microstuttering is the silliest reason to avoid SLI. The delays are almost inevitably shorter than frame time at 60 FPS anyways, so you can't notice it. Go with a legit reason, like noise, heat, power consumption, and the tinkering involved.
Hey it's not an issue to myself as I've said, but people make a huge enough deal about it to not recommend 6870 in crossfire, I even said "depends on what you see as an issue". Oh but I agree with you, SLi 460s is much more cost-effective and I'd always go for dual GPUs myself before going for a single high-end card. I guess I should've expanded upon that a little bit more.
On September 26 2011 17:20 XxDefexX wrote:Hey TL I need a new computer and would really like some help. I would like to start streaming, so any devices which help in that direction will be appreciated . Thanks for taking your time. What is your budget?Around 1000$, can go a little up if needed. What is your resolution?1280x1024 usually. What are you using it for?Gaming SC2, would like to start streaming. What is your upgrade cycle?Longer upgrade cycle, 2+ years. When do you plan on building it?I plan on getting my computer asap, preferrably within a month. Do you plan on overclocking?I don't have plans on overclocking (I am a noob at computers btw, but maybe I will overclock when streaming?) Do you need an Operating System?Yeah, I would need an Operating System. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?I don't have any plans regarding adding another GPU. Where are you buying your parts from?I am from Denmark, Europe - so of course I would like some devices available here, lol ;-) Thanks a lot for reading this and I hope someone will help me out. Take care 1280x1024? You won't come anywhere close to 700 euros.
mobo: MSI H61M-E33 m-ATX 54.12€:
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44938&agid=1603
CPU: i5 2400 158.33€:
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41226&agid=1617
RAM: 8GB-Kit G.Skill 1333Mhz 33.65€:
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44315&agid=1192
GPU: HD 6870 149.38€:
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=40505&agid=1004
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM 44.34€:
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=25683&agid=689
Case: Xigmatek Asgard II 33.34€:
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=32896&agid=631
PSU: Super Flower Amazon 80+ Bronze 450W 40.94€:
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=30074&agid=1627
Optical Drive: some random DVD-RW 17.41€:
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=27402&agid=699
Win7 Home Premium 64bit OEM 85.13€:
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=29181&agid=185
Total: 616.64€ + 30€ shipping = 646.64€
However, if you really aren't planning on ever getting a 1080p monitor and will keep playing at 1280x1024, you can replace the GPU with the 6670, 64.58€:
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=49395&agid=1004
I'd like to give a honorable mention to this PSU but I'm not certain if going from a bronze to a gold-rating is worth 12 euros. Probably is actually if you're going to be using the computer actively, to be honest:
Super Flower Golden Green 400W 80+ Gold 53,29 €:
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=50852&agid=1626
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SO... i just opened the case on my gaming comp's PSU to blow the dust off..I blow the dust off, put the case cover back on, screw the PSU back to my case, plug it back in. I start the computer, win7 loads..then my PSU spontaneously combusts..Thankfully it self extinguished so the rest of my comp still lives (well, metaphorically). So now I need a new PSU; With my comp I need a bare minimum of ~350W, a 24 main, and at least 4 4-pin peripheral plugs..I have no idea what PSU to get though, do I get a 500w generic, since ima upgrade (well build a new) my comp, once Ivy Bridge comes out, or do I get some $80 PSU?
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On September 26 2011 21:29 iTzSnypah wrote:
SO... i just opened the case on my gaming comp's PSU to blow the dust off..I blow the dust off, put the case cover back on, screw the PSU back to my case, plug it back in. I start the computer, win7 loads..then my PSU spontaneously combusts..Thankfully it self extinguished so the rest of my comp still lives (well, metaphorically). So now I need a new PSU; With my comp I need a bare minimum of ~350W, a 24 main, and at least 4 4-pin peripheral plugs..I have no idea what PSU to get though, do I get a 500w generic, since ima upgrade (well build a new) my comp, once Ivy Bridge comes out, or do I get some $80 PSU?
Step 1: Buy a good PSU so it doesn't happen again, if you buy in the ~500-550w range with a high quality unit, it will last you through multiple builds, assuming you don't go multi-GPU.
Step 2: Stop messing with shit you don't understand.
Step 3: Save huge amounts of money when your parts stop exploding.
Just out of curiosity, what did you use to blow the dust out? Also, what PSU was it, and what specs?
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On September 26 2011 21:47 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2011 21:29 iTzSnypah wrote:
SO... i just opened the case on my gaming comp's PSU to blow the dust off..I blow the dust off, put the case cover back on, screw the PSU back to my case, plug it back in. I start the computer, win7 loads..then my PSU spontaneously combusts..Thankfully it self extinguished so the rest of my comp still lives (well, metaphorically). So now I need a new PSU; With my comp I need a bare minimum of ~350W, a 24 main, and at least 4 4-pin peripheral plugs..I have no idea what PSU to get though, do I get a 500w generic, since ima upgrade (well build a new) my comp, once Ivy Bridge comes out, or do I get some $80 PSU? Step 1: Buy a good PSU so it doesn't happen again, if you buy in the ~500-550w range with a high quality unit, it will last you through multiple builds, assuming you don't go multi-GPU. Step 2: Stop messing with shit you don't understand. Step 3: Save huge amounts of money when your parts stop exploding. Just out of curiosity, what did you use to blow the dust out? Also, what PSU was it, and what specs?
I used a can of air. I blew the dust off because the top of my comp case was hot...It was a 500W coolmaster that i got 2 years ago, I threw it away yesterday so IDK the exact specs.
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On September 26 2011 21:29 iTzSnypah wrote:
SO... i just opened the case on my gaming comp's PSU to blow the dust off..I blow the dust off, put the case cover back on, screw the PSU back to my case, plug it back in. I start the computer, win7 loads..then my PSU spontaneously combusts..Thankfully it self extinguished so the rest of my comp still lives (well, metaphorically). So now I need a new PSU; With my comp I need a bare minimum of ~350W, a 24 main, and at least 4 4-pin peripheral plugs..I have no idea what PSU to get though, do I get a 500w generic, since ima upgrade (well build a new) my comp, once Ivy Bridge comes out, or do I get some $80 PSU?
Generic 500W? "Or" 80$ PSU? Isn't 80$ pretty generic for a 500W unit? Or do you perhaps consider Logisys generic?
My suggestion: Think about the kind of a computer you're going to build in half a year, and buy a quality PSU that you can use with that build. PSU is the LAST thing you want to skimp on.
On September 26 2011 21:56 iTzSnypah wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2011 21:47 JingleHell wrote:On September 26 2011 21:29 iTzSnypah wrote:
SO... i just opened the case on my gaming comp's PSU to blow the dust off..I blow the dust off, put the case cover back on, screw the PSU back to my case, plug it back in. I start the computer, win7 loads..then my PSU spontaneously combusts..Thankfully it self extinguished so the rest of my comp still lives (well, metaphorically). So now I need a new PSU; With my comp I need a bare minimum of ~350W, a 24 main, and at least 4 4-pin peripheral plugs..I have no idea what PSU to get though, do I get a 500w generic, since ima upgrade (well build a new) my comp, once Ivy Bridge comes out, or do I get some $80 PSU? Step 1: Buy a good PSU so it doesn't happen again, if you buy in the ~500-550w range with a high quality unit, it will last you through multiple builds, assuming you don't go multi-GPU. Step 2: Stop messing with shit you don't understand. Step 3: Save huge amounts of money when your parts stop exploding. Just out of curiosity, what did you use to blow the dust out? Also, what PSU was it, and what specs? I used a can of air. I blew the dust off because the top of my comp case was hot...It was a 500W coolmaster that i got 2 years ago, I threw it away yesterday so IDK the exact specs.
afaik CM only has xtreme power at that wattage and it's trash.
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Yeah, generally it's not suggested to open up your PSU if you don't understand how it works (really, not just sort of), because, unlike the rest of your PC, which you can fry, the PSU can fry you.
I just blow mine out from the outside. I'd rather not have that many amps decide to play Tickle me Elmo with my fingers. What's your PC's specs? Did you stick a real GPU in a cheap low end prebuilt, maybe?
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On September 26 2011 22:00 JingleHell wrote:
Yeah, generally it's not suggested to open up your PSU if you don't understand how it works (really, not just sort of), because, unlike the rest of your PC, which you can fry, the PSU can fry you.
I just blow mine out from the outside. I'd rather not have that many amps decide to play Tickle me Elmo with my fingers. What's your PC's specs? Did you stick a real GPU in a cheap low end prebuilt, maybe?
I had the power cord unplugged, all i did was unscrew the 4 screws that held the case on and took the case cover off, nothing more i didn't like take it apart or something stupid like that...and really all a psu is tranformers with capacitors and resistors.. IM 80% sure i blew a capacitor...
My computer specs:
I7-920 (2.67Ghz)
Evea e-geforce 9800 GTX
MSI Mobo
4gb (2x2gb) DDR3 ram
720GB seagate HDD (dual-boot win7/linux)
some $60 case, can't tell which no markings (the on/off switch is broke on it)
As you can see this comp is a few years old.
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Generally speaking capacitors can be fully capable of tickle your fingers without a direct power source. 
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On September 26 2011 22:09 iTzSnypah wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2011 22:00 JingleHell wrote:
Yeah, generally it's not suggested to open up your PSU if you don't understand how it works (really, not just sort of), because, unlike the rest of your PC, which you can fry, the PSU can fry you.
I just blow mine out from the outside. I'd rather not have that many amps decide to play Tickle me Elmo with my fingers. What's your PC's specs? Did you stick a real GPU in a cheap low end prebuilt, maybe? I had the power cord unplugged, all i did was unscrew the 4 screws that held the case on and took the case cover off, nothing more i didn't like take it apart or something stupid like that...and really all a psu is tranformers with capacitors and resistors.. IM 80% sure i blew a capacitor... My computer specs: I7-920 (2.67Ghz) Evea e-geforce 9800 GTX MSI Mobo 4gb (2x2gb) DDR3 ram 720GB seagate HDD (dual-boot win7/linux) some $60 case, can't tell which no markings (the on/off switch is broke on it) As you can see this comp is a few years old.
A capacitor exploded at win7 startup without you doing anything wrong? That's really difficult for me to believe for some reason, even the logisyses normally explode only under load.
Um you could have just... opened the PSU to see what you blew =P
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