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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
And larger SSDs outperform smaller ones. | ||
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CuraOh
Chile81 Posts
On September 15 2011 22:19 Huumy wrote: Hello! I would like a build a new computer from a scratch my current one is able to barely run sc2 1v1 on lowest graphic settings. I need help with it because I have never build a computer myself. + Show Spoiler + Things I already have: keyboard, mouse, headphones and a screen. Also I have GeForce 9600 GT as a graphic card. It's the only non-ancient part of my computer. What is your budget? - My budget is max 800-900 euros What is your resolution? 1280x1024 What are you using it for? I wish to stream sc2. I play sc2 in the lowest graphic settings, also I will be running winamp and skype at the same time. What is your upgrade cycle? 2+ years. That's why my starting budget is so freaking high  When do you plan on building it? As soon as possible. Do you plan on overclocking? No. Do you need an Operating System? Yes, windows 7 or Vista 64bit, whichever fits the budget. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where are you buying your parts from? I'm from Europe, Finland, Tampere. These are the nearby stores I found by searching the interwebs: http://www.jimms.fi/ http://www.mediakulma.com/ http://www.triosoft.fi/ http://www.verkkokauppa.com/ Ps. I know the pages are written in moon language so, "komponentit" means "components". Plz ask if an answer wasn's good enough. for your budget you can easy get a overcloking configuration and get a lot of performance also there no point to get a hi-end graphic card with your resolution only so if you are goint to change your monitor in the future go for that Intel Core i5 2500K 197,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/26565/cvrdc/Intel-Core-i5-2500K-3-3-GHz-LGA1155-suoritin-boxed ASRock Z68 Pro3 98,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/0121/dctsg/ASRock-Z68-Pro3-Intel-Z68-LGA1155-ATX-emolevy Cooler Master Hyper 212 31,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/43940/cjskf/Cooler-Master-Hyper-212-Plus-prosessorijaahdytin if you dont want to overclock + Show Spoiler + Corsair CX500W 56,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/48697/dcfmb/Corsair-CX500W-V2-CX-sarjan-500-W-ATX-virtalahde Asus ENGTX560 Ti 213,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/38744/cxhgx/Asus-ENGTX560-Ti-DCII-2DI-1GD5-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX560-Ti-1 if you are not changing monitor + Show Spoiler + Sapphire Radeon HD5670 65,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/12879/cnhsr/Sapphire-Radeon-HD5670-512MB-GDDR5-PCI-Express Corsair 8GB (4x2GB) 1333MHz DDR3 51,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/38332/cmvqk/Corsair-8GB-4x2GB-1333MHz-DDR3-CL9-240-pin-9-9-9-24-XMS3 Asus DRW-24 22,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/34448/cxqgv/Asus-DRW-24B3ST-BLK-G-AS-24x-DVD-RW-musta Antec Three Hundred 55,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/33341/xxfh/Antec-Three-Hundred-ATX-kotelo-ilman-virtalahdetta Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 56,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/2548/cjrxf/Samsung-Spinpoint-F3-1TB-3-5-8-9ms-SATA2-7200RPM-32MB Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 114,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/15309/dbfhj/Microsoft-Windows-7-Home-Premium-64-bit-FIN-OEM-SP1 you can search part in other sites for lower price but keep the caracteristic of the item like any brand of graphic card but gtx 560 ti edit: this is a configuration with monitor + Show Spoiler + here a configuration with monitor and for 886 € Intel Core i5 2400 178,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/26559/cvrcv/Intel-Core-i5-2400-3-1-GHz-LGA1155-suoritin-boxed Asus P8H61 69,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/24266/dbqxx/Asus-P8H61-M-LE-B3-Intel-H61-LGA1155-microATX-emolevy Sapphire Vapor-X Radeon HD 5850 1GB 159,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/38097/cxbkk/Sapphire-Vapor-X-Radeon-HD-5850-1GB-GDDR5 Corsair CX500W 56,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/48697/dcfmb/Corsair-CX500W-V2-CX-sarjan-500-W-ATX-virtalahde Corsair 8GB (4x2GB) 1333MHz DDR3 51,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/38332/cmvqk/Corsair-8GB-4x2GB-1333MHz-DDR3-CL9-240-pin-9-9-9-24-XMS3 Asus DRW-24 22,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/34448/cxqgv/Asus-DRW-24B3ST-BLK-G-AS-24x-DVD-RW-musta Antec Three Hundred 55,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/33341/xxfh/Antec-Three-Hundred-ATX-kotelo-ilman-virtalahdetta Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB 56,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/2548/cjrxf/Samsung-Spinpoint-F3-1TB-3-5-8-9ms-SATA2-7200RPM-32MB Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 114,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/15309/dbfhj/Microsoft-Windows-7-Home-Premium-64-bit-FIN-OEM-SP1 Asus VH222D 21.5" 116,90 € http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/49254/cncjs/Asus-VH222D-21-5-LCD-naytto | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On September 16 2011 08:06 Bambipwnsu wrote: Personally i'd only see myself putting on OS on it. So the only things I worry about is the longevity of the thing from rewrites and price. I will take my friends analogy: its sort of like jeans. I could get large ass jeans for just a tad more but...yeah. LOL I know im contradicting myself with my PSUs though  Also I heard the crucial M4 were one of the slower SSDs while the new OCZ ones were faster? I think the Crucial M4 is faster than the Agility 3 but it isn't as fast as something like a Vertex 3. I'm talking about same size SSDs, not different sizes btw If you're considering OCZ / Sandforce, don't say I didn't warn you: http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?92465-Where-we-are-with-Vertex3-Agility3-Solid3-drives | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 15 2011 22:19 Huumy wrote: Hello! I would like a build a new computer from a scratch my current one is able to barely run sc2 1v1 on lowest graphic settings. I need help with it because I have never build a computer myself. Things I already have: keyboard, mouse, headphones and a screen. Also I have GeForce 9600 GT as a graphic card. It's the only non-ancient part of my computer. What is your budget? - My budget is max 800-900 euros What is your resolution? 1280x1024 What are you using it for? I wish to stream sc2. I play sc2 in the lowest graphic settings, also I will be running winamp and skype at the same time. What is your upgrade cycle? 2+ years. That's why my starting budget is so freaking high When do you plan on building it? As soon as possible. Do you plan on overclocking? No. Do you need an Operating System? Yes, windows 7 or Vista 64bit, whichever fits the budget. Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? No. Where are you buying your parts from? I'm from Europe, Finland, Tampere. These are the nearby stores I found by searching the interwebs: http://www.jimms.fi/ http://www.mediakulma.com/ http://www.triosoft.fi/ http://www.verkkokauppa.com/ Ps. I know the pages are written in moon language so, "komponentit" means "components". Plz ask if an answer wasn's good enough. http://www.netanttila.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=715672&storeId=1444&catalogId=1444&shopId=19651&compartmentId=20152&categoryId=31151 Going to be tough finding a better deal for that kind of price in Finland! | ||
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CuraOh
Chile81 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 16 2011 08:32 CuraOh wrote: the build i put es better and it only 100 more expensive :S you mean 200, he has no win7 Oh but try finding a cheaper PC from Finland for 585€ | ||
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CuraOh
Chile81 Posts
 and keep my build been better by far! http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/144?vs=363 | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 16 2011 08:48 CuraOh wrote: if go for no overcloking configuration it only 150 and for keep the same price just put any 6850 and there another 50 and there you have your 100 and keep my build been better by far! http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/144?vs=363 non-OC version costs 130 euros more... | ||
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CuraOh
Chile81 Posts
886 - 117( less monitor ) = 769 only 70 more and better with quality items not some random power supply and motherboard | ||
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On September 16 2011 08:26 Shikyo wrote: http://www.netanttila.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=715672&storeId=1444&catalogId=1444&shopId=19651&compartmentId=20152&categoryId=31151 Going to be tough finding a better deal for that kind of price in Finland! I just looked up Finnish prices from jimms.fi and pixmania.com, and found that I could create a build with 1 TB 7200RPM Samsung Spinpoint HDD (49 Euros) i5 2400 (187 Euros) H61 Mobo (78 Euros) Sapphire Radeon 6850 (151 Euros) 8GB Kingstom 1333 RAM (47 Euros) Antec 300 Case (57 Euros) CX 430 PSU (51 Euros) DVD Drive (20 Euros) 640 Euros. And that wasn't even bargain hunting. Superior to the prebuilt in almost every category, while 740 Euros if you add Windows 7. Note that if I wanted to be more realistic, I would have done a shitty Case/PSU combo for around 60 Euros total and cut out about 58 euros making it overall cheaper than the prebuilt, with better hardware. Better processor, better RAM and more of it, arguably better GPU, better PSU... | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On September 16 2011 09:21 FabledIntegral wrote: I just looked up Finnish prices from jimms.fi and pixmania.com, and found that I could create a build with 1 TB 7200RPM Samsung Spinpoint HDD (49 Euros) i5 2400 (187 Euros) H61 Mobo (78 Euros) Sapphire Radeon 6850 (151 Euros) 8GB Kingstom 1333 RAM (47 Euros) Antec 300 Case (57 Euros) CX 430 PSU (51 Euros) DVD Drive (20 Euros) 640 Euros. And that wasn't even bargain hunting. Superior to the prebuilt in almost every category, while 740 Euros if you add Windows 7. Note that if I wanted to be more realistic, I would have done a shitty Case/PSU combo for around 60 Euros total and cut out about 58 euros making it overall cheaper than the prebuilt, with better hardware. Better processor, better RAM and more of it, arguably better GPU, better PSU... 5850 actually is better than 6850 but yeah that might work. Still think it's amazing for a prebuilt though. (and then I'd like to say that CX 430 isn't 80+ certified and 8GB is probably not necessary with that setup and I value better GPU over better CPU not to mention 40 euros) EDIT: But certainly you can build a similiar computer for cheaper by going for a i3 2100 for instance but still I think that "effort" should be worth at least something. | ||
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epikAnglory
United States1120 Posts
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Dannnnn_The_Man
United States166 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On September 16 2011 11:42 Dannnnn_The_Man wrote: Im not quite sure about crossfiring, can you crossfire say two gtx 560 ti? Since crossfire is what you call it for AMD cards... no. SLI for Nvidia. And if you know that little about it, you should do a lot more research before spending the extra money. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
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Dannnnn_The_Man
United States166 Posts
On September 16 2011 11:44 JingleHell wrote: Since crossfire is what you call it for AMD cards... no. SLI for Nvidia. And if you know that little about it, you should do a lot more research before spending the extra money. Will do, have maybe a recommendation thread i can read up on? also what does SLI stand for? just out of curiosity. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
This is why multi-GPU solutions suck: http://techreport.com/articles.x/21516/1 | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
Plus it's at it's worst with new releases, which is usually when you want the most GPU performance, just to see what it looks like. There's times it's efficient, but you should definitely make sure you're very informed first. | ||
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epikAnglory
United States1120 Posts
I remember the first time I asked SkyR a question was if I should crossfire two ATI 5670s, and then I remembered the exact same thing he replied back, that he would kill kittens if I did. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
I knew I was going to have to get 2 GPUs over time and SLI them, to spread the spending out, and since I was going with an X58 build anyways, SLI board, no sweat. So when the 9800 blew up a few days later, I got a 460 for the price/performance, instead of waiting a couple of months and buying a 470. As for X58 when the money was pushing it, I basically pointed out I'd only save about $150 building an 1156 i7 rig, so might as well do it proper and have it last longer, right? | ||
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