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On September 16 2011 00:11 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2011 23:50 JingleHell wrote:On September 15 2011 23:28 Myrmidon wrote:
Should be that metal motherboard standoffs will connect the motherboard ground to the chassis. The important function is just to raise the motherboard away from the side of the case such that traces and surface mount components on the back side are not shorted to each other via the side of the case. I think that the standoff positions on the motherboard would be more or less connected to the same ground plane, so I wouldn't expect huge differences electrically if some were not used. I'm noob at PCB layout and EMI though.
Looking at it from another angle, I think it'd be a really really stupid design to release a motherboard that must be grounded to the chassis at each of the points. Some people will have plastic, while others may have cases with no hole at the corresponding location. This would make the probability of user error really high. So it really seems unlikely to matter. Just use whatever you have. Wait, so the standoffs ground it and keep it from shorting to ground at the same time? God I hate electricity. Confuzzling shit sometimes. Okay, motherboards work when placed outside of a case, right? It's not like they're connected to a sheet of metal via standoffs when operating like that...
Yeah, it's this bit that had me pretty much convinced they were only there to prevent shorting to the case. Well, shorting the mobo to itself via the case, I guess, really.
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By January there will probably be somewhat better graphics cards for the same money. Aside from that, no change. HD 6870 is super overkill for ultra on that resolution. Even a HD 6850 is plenty and would let you upgrade your monitor to a 1920x1080 model and run SC2 well on ultra.
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On September 16 2011 00:29 Ata wrote:i bought mine for 45$ CAD which is last i went to Europe ~25euros.
Yeah computer parts are much cheaper in US(ok NA) than in EU especially when in sale, your point?
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Well yeah, you could save 40 euros by going with 6770: http://www1.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46804&agid=717
I'm not sure how well that could run Diablo 3 though and it probably wouldn't last as long
EDIT: Actually you can't, that's worse than the Diablo 3 beta recommended system requirements, and it's possible they'll increase even more. You should go for either HD 6850 or 6870.
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ive just added the same items to a basket on Scan.co.uk (except the ram, coundt find one cheaply?) and it comes to £403.85 but thats with some £12 insurance that says if anything breaks during installation then it'll be replaced. Pretty useful imo cos im an idiot and will end up just trying to force something in the wrong place in excitement lol 
I dont think ill have the funds till january so im gonna have to wait till then (or get it on finance which is BS cos it adds like £150 -_-) and i might even need more help then if anything new comes out or theres some better deal on.
Thanks for all the help though guys
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yea but the one on the other site was cheaper. I dunno im undecided atm. Let me look into it a bit more, eating dinner atm :p
am i being retarded but do Scan.co.uk ONLY offer finance? i cant seem to just pay the full price in one go
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On September 15 2011 23:42 Wabbit wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 15 2011 11:08 Bambipwnsu wrote:
any reason why my 2500k isn't overclocking when I open up cpu-z...but OCed in the bios? Am i missing a setting somewhere? On September 15 2011 11:12 Bambipwnsu wrote:
turbo boost is off and multi to 47 On September 15 2011 11:13 skyR wrote:
Turbo has to be on. Wait... what? I'm hesitant to even say anything to contradict skyR but... are you sure turbo has to be on?!? I'm OC'ing with turbo off, just the multiplier and VCore...
I think what he meant is that "the turbo has to be on if that's what's happening." Not that he needs to turn turbo back on.
It's not a huge thing but usually you'd want your RAM to run through dual channel, 2x2GB instead of 1x4GB. Not a deal breaker. That's still really expensive by US or Canadian standards though.
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On September 16 2011 01:51 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2011 23:42 Wabbit wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 15 2011 11:08 Bambipwnsu wrote:
any reason why my 2500k isn't overclocking when I open up cpu-z...but OCed in the bios? Am i missing a setting somewhere? On September 15 2011 11:12 Bambipwnsu wrote:
turbo boost is off and multi to 47 On September 15 2011 11:13 skyR wrote:
Turbo has to be on. Wait... what? I'm hesitant to even say anything to contradict skyR but... are you sure turbo has to be on?!? I'm OC'ing with turbo off, just the multiplier and VCore... I think what he meant is that "the turbo has to be on if that's what's happening." Not that he needs to turn turbo back on.
That particular problem was that he was OCing with the Turbo multiplier, so that Turbo boost went to those levels. If you have turbo boost turned off when doing it that way, it isn't going to do much.
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On September 16 2011 01:53 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 01:51 FabledIntegral wrote:On September 15 2011 23:42 Wabbit wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 15 2011 11:08 Bambipwnsu wrote:
any reason why my 2500k isn't overclocking when I open up cpu-z...but OCed in the bios? Am i missing a setting somewhere? On September 15 2011 11:12 Bambipwnsu wrote:
turbo boost is off and multi to 47 On September 15 2011 11:13 skyR wrote:
Turbo has to be on. Wait... what? I'm hesitant to even say anything to contradict skyR but... are you sure turbo has to be on?!? I'm OC'ing with turbo off, just the multiplier and VCore... I think what he meant is that "the turbo has to be on if that's what's happening." Not that he needs to turn turbo back on. That particular problem was that he was OCing with the Turbo multiplier, so that Turbo boost went to those levels. If you have turbo boost turned off when doing it that way, it isn't going to do much.
Oh, I read it wrong then.  . Is that even a common way to go about OCing? Just how it works with turbo? I guess it makes sense if you're only using it for dual core processes.
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On September 15 2011 23:42 Wabbit wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 15 2011 11:08 Bambipwnsu wrote:
any reason why my 2500k isn't overclocking when I open up cpu-z...but OCed in the bios? Am i missing a setting somewhere? On September 15 2011 11:12 Bambipwnsu wrote:
turbo boost is off and multi to 47 On September 15 2011 11:13 skyR wrote:
Turbo has to be on. Wait... what? I'm hesitant to even say anything to contradict skyR but... are you sure turbo has to be on?!? I'm OC'ing with turbo off, just the multiplier and VCore...
Every motherboard has different BIOS options. Some have both a standard multiplier and a turbo multiplier. If you have an EVGA P67 board than feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but from my understanding of looking at the EVGA P67 BIOS, it appears that there is no turbo multiplier, it's just a single multiplier which is affected by turbo. If you wanted a constant clock on it than you would have to go change the minimum frequency from 1.6GHz to the same value as your maximum frequency.
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Hey a quick question, would a cpu cooler + one extra case cooler call for a fan controller? In what cases are those usually used? If one would be useful, what are some decent ones?
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On September 16 2011 04:53 skyR wrote:
Every motherboard has different BIOS options. Some have both a standard multiplier and a turbo multiplier. If you have an EVGA P67 board than feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but from my understanding of looking at the EVGA P67 BIOS, it appears that there is no turbo multiplier, it's just a single multiplier which is affected by turbo. If you wanted a constant clock on it than you would have to go change the minimum frequency from 1.6GHz to the same value as your maximum frequency.
I figured it was just some misunderstanding on my part.
That's an interesting choice by EVGA... not giving you the option of disabling turbo... I'm no OC expert but it sounds like that would make enthusiasts a bit mad.
And nah, I have a cheap-ass MSI P67-C43. You can change the "standard" multiplier as well as the turbo multipliers separately (and there's an option to turn turbo on/off). VCore can, of course, be auto and manual - but turbo doesn't seem to work with manual VCore (also doesn't work if you change the "standard" multiplier from 33).
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On September 16 2011 05:02 Shikyo wrote:
Hey a quick question, would a cpu cooler + one extra case cooler call for a fan controller? In what cases are those usually used? If one would be useful, what are some decent ones?
Whether a fan controller should be used or not is totally dependent on the individual. If noise is a concern than you would use one or if you run high-speed fans off of molex instead of a header or for the convenience factor over software.
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On September 16 2011 05:02 Shikyo wrote:
Hey a quick question, would a cpu cooler + one extra case cooler call for a fan controller? In what cases are those usually used? If one would be useful, what are some decent ones?
If you've only got a couple of fans, I wouldn't bother, unless noise is getting to you. Easier to get one of the molex-3pin adapters, and connect to the motherboard headers.
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Would a CX 430 be able to handle an i5 2400, XFX 6870, 8GB RAM, 1 7200 RPM HDD on an H61 or H67 board?
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Yes but you would be using adapter(s).
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On September 16 2011 05:55 skyR wrote:
Yes but you would be using adapter(s).
What are the downsides to using adapters?
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