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Why wouldn't you just use the new technology to have the mobo sort out the files for you? What's inferior about it? I'm not saying you're wrong I'm just curious if you have data to back it up? As far a OCing it's the same but with more options?
The point of SRT is to improve read/write speeds of frequently accessed data for a low cost. How it works is that Intel's software layer will detect which data you constantly access and thus dump it into the SSD. If the SSD is full, it will delete the least used data to make room for more frequently used data.
This means if you load Starcraft 2 every hour, the software layer will dump the most frequently loaded files in there to improve read speeds. If you only load Adobe Photoshop once a month, chances are that its not in the cache and it won't benefit from Intel SRT at all - it will load at the same speed at the mechanical hard disk. Therefore, only frequently used files will benefit from this technology.
By proxy, this also means writes will benefit little from this because rarely do you write the same file over and over again. SSDs aren't very good at sequential writes while mechanical hard disks are so the SSD chosen must have better sequential write speeds than the mechanical hard disks it is serving as a cache to prevent write bottlenecks.
You can mitigate the read and write speed problems by getting a large SSD, which by proxy are generally faster due to parallelism, or getting a SLC SSD. Both options increases the cost of Intel SRT, which defeats the purpose.
Consumers are better off just getting a single 60-120GB SSD and dumping everything they want on it because it'll be faster in 90% of cases and not dependent on an additional software layer (hello data integrity problems). SRT seems to be derived from enterprise technology and thus, no matter how you spin it, if not entirely useful for basic consumers.
About overclocking: overclocking is exactly the same on both P67 and Z68. There is no difference. The Z68 board can harness the IGP of the Sandy Bridge processor, and overclock it to some benefit, but this has two problems:
1) Quicksync needs to be directly supported and I believe you need to use the Lucid software.
2) Most people already have a discrete card. Who cares about overclocking that IGP because your discrete card will do all of the work.
3) Even the HD3000 is not worth overclocking because it doesn't change the fact it still can't play games well. AMD's Llano is a prime candidate for overclocked memory and IGP but Intel's HD3000 is still too weak to be worth dealing with.
Some random graphs and tables for you to look at. Its nice if you have a small SSD lying around but its still worse than a standalone SSD:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4337/z68-ssd-caching-with-corsairs-f40-sandforce-ssd/1
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On August 02 2011 13:47 skyR wrote:
Newegg does not provide lower costs than NCIX or any Canadian retailer. You do not want to be shopping from Newegg ever unless it is an Shellshocker deal. We do link to NCIX for Canadians....
Hello,
I have noticied that all the "pros" hate newegg and prefer NCIX or possibly DirectCanada/bestdirect. I undrestand that pricematching and freeshipping are very good, but isnt the service of paying for return shipping for DOA items worth anything?
You guys were nice enough to give me advice on parts 2 weeks ago (I coudnt pull the trigger)and I will be asking for advice again tomorrow with NCIX's weekly deals but I am really worried about getting dead items and having to pay for shipping.
How hard is it to get MIR? do u have to send them a letter and then call them 20 times?
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What is your budget?
1500$ max
What is your resolution?
1920x1080
What are you using it for?
Gaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years
When do you plan on building it?
As soon as possible
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes windows 7 -64
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg.ca
I would appreciate it if you help me. Thank you.
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Im having trouble deciding on how to upgrade. Im a little bit low on money and cant upgrade my whole system right now. So ill have to do it in 2 steps probably.
Current System:
Intel E6300 @ 3,0GHz
4GB Ram
Radeon HD 5770
Upgrade options:
1) 3GB Triple-KIT DDR3 Kingston Valueram PC1066 CL7 27,53 €
ASRock H61M/U3S3 (B3), Sockel 1155, mATX 61,19 €
Intel Core i3-2100 Box, LGA1155 95,25 €
TOTAL: 183,97 €
2) EVGA GeForce GTX 560-Ti, 2048MB, PCI-Express 241,52 €
What do you think will be the best 1st upgrade? I want the best FPS for the money right now. In games like SC2,Witcher2 and upcoming games like BF3,Diablo3,Skyrim....
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On August 02 2011 23:31 spoonslush wrote:
What is your budget?
1500$ max
What is your resolution?
1920x1080
What are you using it for?
Gaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years
When do you plan on building it?
As soon as possible
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes windows 7 -64
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg.ca
I would appreciate it if you help me. Thank you.
Buy from directcanada
I ordered for my brother from there, it was a full 80 dollars cheaper than newegg.ca for the exact same parts
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On August 02 2011 23:37 chroniX wrote:
Im having trouble deciding on how to upgrade. Im a little bit low on money and cant upgrade my whole system right now. So ill have to do it in 2 steps probably.
Current System:
Intel E6300 @ 3,0GHz
4GB Ram
Radeon HD 5770
Upgrade options:
1) 3GB Triple-KIT DDR3 Kingston Valueram PC1066 CL7 27,53 €
ASRock H61M/U3S3 (B3), Sockel 1155, mATX 61,19 €
Intel Core i3-2100 Box, LGA1155 95,25 €
TOTAL: 183,97 €
2) EVGA GeForce GTX 560-Ti, 2048MB, PCI-Express 241,52 €
What do you think will be the best 1st upgrade? I want the best FPS for the money right now. In games like SC2,Witcher2 and upcoming games like BF3,Diablo3,Skyrim....
If you don't have a high budget, i'd suggest this
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=46795&agid=1004
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=44315&agid=1192
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=41226&agid=1617
hd6870 for only 150, i5-2400 for 152 and 8gb ram for 38
keep that mobo though should be enough
this build will be cheaper and better, you may want a better card then the 6870 but i recommand it, it's probably the best card performance/pricewise after the 6850
if you want a gtx560ti, get this one
http://www3.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=43100&agid=707
it's only 188 and i dont think you need the 2gb variant, but i may be wrong as you didn't really tell us what you'll be doing with your computer exept gaming
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i'm building a computer, and the last component i need to buy is a GPU. My system right now is:
i5-2500 sandy bridge
8gb ram pc1333
1 tb hd
420w psu that came with case
edit: also i have a 21.5" monitor with a 1920x1080 resolution
i play SC2 right now on a laptop, so it is pretty terrible. i want to play SC2 with this system, and also diablo 3 when it comes out. (i understand theres no specifications yet for diablo 3)
is the gtx 460 a card i could still consider? and if so, do i need to put a new psu in?
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On August 03 2011 00:35 scottsauce wrote:
i'm building a computer, and the last component i need to buy is a GPU. My system right now is:
i5-2500 sandy bridge
8gb ram pc1333
1 tb hd
420w psu that came with case
edit: also i have a 21.5" monitor with a 1920x1080 resolution
i play SC2 right now on a laptop, so it is pretty terrible. i want to play SC2 with this system, and also diablo 3 when it comes out. (i understand theres no specifications yet for diablo 3)
is the gtx 460 a card i could still consider? and if so, do i need to put a new psu in?
Yes, you can still consider a gtx460, also look at the radeon 6850, same pricepoint
no, 420W will be fine
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On August 02 2011 19:35 Womwomwom wrote:
By proxy, this also means writes will benefit little from this because rarely do you write the same file over and over again. SSDs aren't very good at sequential writes while mechanical hard disks are so the SSD chosen must have better sequential write speeds than the mechanical hard disks it is serving as a cache to prevent write bottlenecks.
Nah, all writes get cached to the SSD with Intel SRT, not just the most commonly-written files. This means that if there are a whole bunch of small writes necessary at once, the SSD caching will improve performance (in enhanced mode--i.e. the less secure one, where writes are buffered to the SSD and automatically moved to the HDD when convenient, rather than immediately).
@GeorgeyBeats:
Power supply is okay, but the XFX Core Edition 450W is superior by a decent margin and cheaper at £37.18. The +12V rating is the same as the Corsair unit, which is what counts. Due to a lot of trickery, shoddy products, and outright false advertising, graphics cards manufacturers always recommend wattages on the safe side. With an overclocked i5-2500k, your computer wouldn't draw much more than 300W in the worst case scenario.
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/450w-xfx-p1-450s-xxb9-core-edition-85-eff-80-plus-bronze-sli-crossfire
Save money by not getting a factory overclocked card (you can just do that yourself if needed). Normal EVGA GTX 560 Ti is £170.40:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-evga-gtx-560-ti-40nm-4000mhz-gddr5-gpu-822mhz-shader-1645mhz-384-cores-2x-dvi-i-mini-hdmi
Asus P8P67 LE is no good. A cheaper motherboard may overclock better, though you lose the fancy UEFI. Giagbyte Z68A-D3 is £74.02:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/gigabyte-ga-z68a-d3-intel-z68-s-1155-pci-e-20-(x16)-ddr3-1866-2133-sata-3gb-s-raid-atx
Note that most of the components you buy, when getting it piece by piece, have individual warranties of 3 years (or more, but not with this build).
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On August 03 2011 00:41 gdot5 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 00:35 scottsauce wrote:
i'm building a computer, and the last component i need to buy is a GPU. My system right now is:
i5-2500 sandy bridge
8gb ram pc1333
1 tb hd
420w psu that came with case
edit: also i have a 21.5" monitor with a 1920x1080 resolution
i play SC2 right now on a laptop, so it is pretty terrible. i want to play SC2 with this system, and also diablo 3 when it comes out. (i understand theres no specifications yet for diablo 3)
is the gtx 460 a card i could still consider? and if so, do i need to put a new psu in? Yes, you can still consider a gtx460, also look at the radeon 6850, same pricepoint no, 420W will be fine
A junk "420W" unit that came bundled with a case is not going to be fine.
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On August 03 2011 00:41 gdot5 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 00:35 scottsauce wrote:
i'm building a computer, and the last component i need to buy is a GPU. My system right now is:
i5-2500 sandy bridge
8gb ram pc1333
1 tb hd
420w psu that came with case
edit: also i have a 21.5" monitor with a 1920x1080 resolution
i play SC2 right now on a laptop, so it is pretty terrible. i want to play SC2 with this system, and also diablo 3 when it comes out. (i understand theres no specifications yet for diablo 3)
is the gtx 460 a card i could still consider? and if so, do i need to put a new psu in? Yes, you can still consider a gtx460, also look at the radeon 6850, same pricepoint no, 420W will be fine
thank you, i think ill just go with the gtx460 for now, as i have always been an nvidia fan
edit: i also think that the psu is probably junk, so could you point me in the correct direction
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What is your budget?
700$-1000$. id be willing to go a little bit higher than my budget to fit my needs.
What is your resolution?
1680x1050.
What are you using it for?
i basically want good performance for gaming (example: id like to be able to play 4v4s everyone maxed at low settings without lagging at all, diablo 3, etc.). i am also going to be using this computer for school work, a lot of photoshop, and some video encoding work from time to time.
What is your upgrade cycle?
my upgrade cycle is usually long, i usually buy a new computer every 2-3 years, but id like to stick with this one for a long time (maybe 5+ years).
When do you plan on building it?
before the end of august.
Do you plan on overclocking?
nope.
Do you need an Operating System?
not really, but if you can fit one ill take it. (windows 7, 32 or 64 bit is fine)
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
nope.
Where are you buying your parts from?
im in montreal canada, so ill be using newegg.ca/ncix/directcanada. (whatever is best)
thank you a whole lot!
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On August 02 2011 23:24 ataryens wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 02 2011 13:47 skyR wrote:
Newegg does not provide lower costs than NCIX or any Canadian retailer. You do not want to be shopping from Newegg ever unless it is an Shellshocker deal. We do link to NCIX for Canadians.... Hello, I have noticied that all the "pros" hate newegg and prefer NCIX or possibly DirectCanada/bestdirect. I undrestand that pricematching and freeshipping are very good, but isnt the service of paying for return shipping for DOA items worth anything? You guys were nice enough to give me advice on parts 2 weeks ago (I coudnt pull the trigger)and I will be asking for advice again tomorrow with NCIX's weekly deals but I am really worried about getting dead items and having to pay for shipping. How hard is it to get MIR? do u have to send them a letter and then call them 20 times?
You just fill out the mail in rebate form and send it in with the UPC code. In three to six months, you will either receive a cheque / pre-paid credit card in the mail or you won't have anything and you will have to chase them about it or forget about it.
NCIX is recommended for Canadians because it is a Canadian retailer. Direct Canada and Best Direct are both sister companies of NCIX. Shipping is less expensive because these Canadian retailers ship from a British Columbia or Ontario warehouse. Newegg has a single warehouse in Ontario but the majority of the items you purchase still ship from state side warehouses so shipping will be more expensive and longer.
NCIX post-sale support is arguably better than Newegg's.
Newegg is still recommended for Americans.
On August 03 2011 01:23 .DrK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget?
700$-1000$. id be willing to go a little bit higher than my budget to fit my needs.
What is your resolution?
1680x1050.
What are you using it for?
i basically want good performance for starcraft (example: id like to be able to play 4v4s everyone maxed at low settings without lagging at all). i am also going to be using this computer for school work, a lot of photoshop, and some video encoding work from time to time.
What is your upgrade cycle?
my upgrade cycle is usually long, i usually buy a new computer every 2-3 years, but id like to stick with this one for a long time (maybe 5+ years).
When do you plan on building it?
before the end of august.
Do you plan on overclocking?
nope.
Do you need an Operating System?
not really, but if you can fit one ill take it. (windows 7, 32 or 64 bit is fine)
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
nope.
Where are you buying your parts from?
im in montreal canada, so ill be using newegg.ca/ncix/directcanada. (whatever is best)
thank you a whole lot!
Here's a configuration for $776 before mail in rebates that's capable of playing more than just Starcraft at 1080p on reasonably high settings.
If you're interested in lowering the total because your goal is just to play Starcraft II on low aand nothing else than you can change the graphics card to a Radeon HD5770 or GTS 450 whcih would bring the total down by roughly $100.
If you do a lot of encoding or just want to use your entire budget than the extra threads of the core i7 2600 may be worth it to you, $282: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57961 , pricematch with http://www.vastech.ca/intel-core-i7-2600-sandy-bridge-3-4ghz-cpu.html
Core i5 2500 @ $198 (pricematch with http://www.hltechnology.com/one_prod.php?pid=039879 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962
Intel H61 @ $68 (pricematch with http://www.agileelectronics.ca/prod_details/tab/details.asp?prod_id=BOXDH61WWB3 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59496
Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $45 ($35 after mail in rebate)
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544
Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti @ $226 ($196 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD9294 )
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58366
Antec Neo Eco 450C @ $40 ($30 after mail in rebate)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&promoid=1310
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Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $49 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/230752/RC-912-KKN1/COOLERMASTER/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $40 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC9911 )
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58402
DVD Burner @ $16
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60344&promoid=1310
Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $94 (pricematch with http://bestdirect.ca/products/222137/GFC-00599/MICROSOFT/ )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271
On August 02 2011 23:31 spoonslush wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget?
1500$ max
What is your resolution?
1920x1080
What are you using it for?
Gaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years
When do you plan on building it?
As soon as possible
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes windows 7 -64
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg.ca
I would appreciate it if you help me. Thank you.
You can use the same configuration as above. With your budget, you can add in an SSD if you'd like.
Keep in mind the components with promoid=1310 will have the sale end tomorrow on Wednesday so if you don't plan on purchasing, you should add it to your cart to retain pricing. If the sale does or pricing changes and you weren't able to make a purchase, just post again.
On August 03 2011 01:05 scottsauce wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 03 2011 00:41 gdot5 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 00:35 scottsauce wrote:
i'm building a computer, and the last component i need to buy is a GPU. My system right now is:
i5-2500 sandy bridge
8gb ram pc1333
1 tb hd
420w psu that came with case
edit: also i have a 21.5" monitor with a 1920x1080 resolution
i play SC2 right now on a laptop, so it is pretty terrible. i want to play SC2 with this system, and also diablo 3 when it comes out. (i understand theres no specifications yet for diablo 3)
is the gtx 460 a card i could still consider? and if so, do i need to put a new psu in? Yes, you can still consider a gtx460, also look at the radeon 6850, same pricepoint no, 420W will be fine thank you, i think ill just go with the gtx460 for now, as i have always been an nvidia fan edit: i also think that the psu is probably junk, so could you point me in the correct direction
XFX Core Edition 450 for $55 ($45 after mail in rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012
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On August 03 2011 01:52 skyR wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 23:24 ataryens wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 02 2011 13:47 skyR wrote:
Newegg does not provide lower costs than NCIX or any Canadian retailer. You do not want to be shopping from Newegg ever unless it is an Shellshocker deal. We do link to NCIX for Canadians.... Hello, I have noticied that all the "pros" hate newegg and prefer NCIX or possibly DirectCanada/bestdirect. I undrestand that pricematching and freeshipping are very good, but isnt the service of paying for return shipping for DOA items worth anything? You guys were nice enough to give me advice on parts 2 weeks ago (I coudnt pull the trigger)and I will be asking for advice again tomorrow with NCIX's weekly deals but I am really worried about getting dead items and having to pay for shipping. How hard is it to get MIR? do u have to send them a letter and then call them 20 times? You just fill out the mail in rebate form and send it in with the UPC code. In three to six months, you will either receive a cheque / pre-paid credit card in the mail or you won't have anything and you will have to chase them about it or forget about it. NCIX is recommended for Canadians because it is a Canadian retailer. Direct Canada and Best Direct are both sister companies of NCIX. Shipping is less expensive because these Canadian retailers ship from a British Columbia or Ontario warehouse. Newegg has a single warehouse in Ontario but the majority of the items you purchase still ship from state side warehouses so shipping will be more expensive and longer. NCIX post-sale support is arguably better than Newegg's. Newegg is still recommended for Americans. Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 01:23 .DrK wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget?
700$-1000$. id be willing to go a little bit higher than my budget to fit my needs.
What is your resolution?
1680x1050.
What are you using it for?
i basically want good performance for starcraft (example: id like to be able to play 4v4s everyone maxed at low settings without lagging at all). i am also going to be using this computer for school work, a lot of photoshop, and some video encoding work from time to time.
What is your upgrade cycle?
my upgrade cycle is usually long, i usually buy a new computer every 2-3 years, but id like to stick with this one for a long time (maybe 5+ years).
When do you plan on building it?
before the end of august.
Do you plan on overclocking?
nope.
Do you need an Operating System?
not really, but if you can fit one ill take it. (windows 7, 32 or 64 bit is fine)
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
nope.
Where are you buying your parts from?
im in montreal canada, so ill be using newegg.ca/ncix/directcanada. (whatever is best)
thank you a whole lot! Here's a configuration for $776 before mail in rebates that's capable of playing more than just Starcraft at 1080p on reasonably high settings. If you're interested in lowering the total because your goal is just to play Starcraft II on low aand nothing else than you can change the graphics card to a Radeon HD5770 or GTS 450 whcih would bring the total down by roughly $100. If you do a lot of encoding or just want to use your entire budget than the extra threads of the core i7 2600 may be worth it to you, $282: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57961 , pricematch with http://www.vastech.ca/intel-core-i7-2600-sandy-bridge-3-4ghz-cpu.htmlCore i5 2500 @ $198 (pricematch with http://www.hltechnology.com/one_prod.php?pid=039879 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57962Intel H61 @ $68 (pricematch with http://www.agileelectronics.ca/prod_details/tab/details.asp?prod_id=BOXDH61WWB3 ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59496Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz @ $45 ($35 after mail in rebate) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544Gigabyte GTX 560 Ti @ $226 ($196 after mail in rebate) (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11830BD9294 ) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58366Antec Neo Eco 450C @ $40 ($30 after mail in rebate) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&promoid=1310+ Show Spoiler +Coolermaster HAF 912 @ $49 (pricematch with http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/230752/RC-912-KKN1/COOLERMASTER/ ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55583Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB @ $40 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=16950AC9911 ) http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=58402DVD Burner @ $16 http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60344&promoid=1310Windows 7 Home Premium x64 @ $94 (pricematch with http://bestdirect.ca/products/222137/GFC-00599/MICROSOFT/ ) http://ncix.com/products/?sku=45271Show nested quote +On August 02 2011 23:31 spoonslush wrote:+ Show Spoiler +What is your budget?
1500$ max
What is your resolution?
1920x1080
What are you using it for?
Gaming
What is your upgrade cycle?
2+ years
When do you plan on building it?
As soon as possible
Do you plan on overclocking?
No
Do you need an Operating System?
Yes windows 7 -64
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg.ca
I would appreciate it if you help me. Thank you. You can use the same configuration as above. With your budget, you can add in an SSD if you'd like. Keep in mind the components with promoid=1310 will have the sale end tomorrow on Wednesday so if you don't plan on purchasing, you should add it to your cart to retain pricing. If the sale does or pricing changes and you weren't able to make a purchase, just post again. Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 01:05 scottsauce wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On August 03 2011 00:41 gdot5 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 00:35 scottsauce wrote:
i'm building a computer, and the last component i need to buy is a GPU. My system right now is:
i5-2500 sandy bridge
8gb ram pc1333
1 tb hd
420w psu that came with case
edit: also i have a 21.5" monitor with a 1920x1080 resolution
i play SC2 right now on a laptop, so it is pretty terrible. i want to play SC2 with this system, and also diablo 3 when it comes out. (i understand theres no specifications yet for diablo 3)
is the gtx 460 a card i could still consider? and if so, do i need to put a new psu in? Yes, you can still consider a gtx460, also look at the radeon 6850, same pricepoint no, 420W will be fine thank you, i think ill just go with the gtx460 for now, as i have always been an nvidia fan edit: i also think that the psu is probably junk, so could you point me in the correct direction XFX Core Edition 450 for $55 ($45 after mail in rebate) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012
first of all, thank you very much for the configurations!
and secondly, it looks like the Mushkin 2x4GB 1333MHz (http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=55544) is currently on back order. is there an alternative, or do i simply wait for it.
thanks again! :D
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On August 03 2011 01:00 Myrmidon wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2011 00:41 gdot5 wrote:On August 03 2011 00:35 scottsauce wrote:
i'm building a computer, and the last component i need to buy is a GPU. My system right now is:
i5-2500 sandy bridge
8gb ram pc1333
1 tb hd
420w psu that came with case
edit: also i have a 21.5" monitor with a 1920x1080 resolution
i play SC2 right now on a laptop, so it is pretty terrible. i want to play SC2 with this system, and also diablo 3 when it comes out. (i understand theres no specifications yet for diablo 3)
is the gtx 460 a card i could still consider? and if so, do i need to put a new psu in? Yes, you can still consider a gtx460, also look at the radeon 6850, same pricepoint no, 420W will be fine A junk "420W" unit that came bundled with a case is not going to be fine.
This is true, I was assuming it is a decent one
If it's a piece of shit you'll need to drop 30-40 bucks on a new PSU (can be carried over to a new build)
By POS I mean unstable outputs (bad rippling), not actually pulling the labels 420W, and low efficiency (won't affect performance, but just sucks to have)
EDIT: Turns out I'm really really good at reading posts fully
go with the PSU that was posted for you
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Folks,
what do you have opinion about this mobo:
ASRock P67 EXTREME4 GEN3 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Personally looking for:
OC: needed with i5-2500k and 2x4gb G.Skill @1600
USB3: needed (w/ front panel)
SATA3: needed
SSD: dedicated (no cashing)
Video: will buy GTX560/570/580
PCIe 3.0: not really needed
On board audio: I have discrete card handy that I can use in case i need it
LAN: Absolutely need 1 Gb/s LAN
Firewire/esata: not really needed atm
Does it appear as a good choice? Some other ideas if you have them, will be highly apreciated.
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SATA3 will be available on all P67 and Z68 boards so this really isn't an issue and most, if not all boards will have 1Gbps LAN as well.
PCI-E 3.0 is a gimmick right now as it can't even be used until Ivybridge is released next year. This is irrelevant though since the regular Extreme4 is the same price.
It is a good board. I don't think there are any other boards that are less expensive and offer the same amount of connectivity or features.
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What is your budget?
600 Euro (850$) max
What is your resolution?
1280x1024
What are you using it for?
Gaming mostly (SCII on medium/high, Diablo III, maybe BF3) , studying, streaming maybe
What is your upgrade cycle?
4+ years, maybe never
When do you plan on building it?
this month
Do you plan on overclocking?
Never did it, only if it gives big benefits and is easy enough to do.
Do you need an Operating System?
No
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No
Where are you buying your parts from?
Was looking at this site:http://www.alternate.nl/html/pc-notebook.html?tn=BUILDERS&l1=&tgid=1089, But if there is a better site that ships to Europe, i'm happy to hear about it 
Seems like the I5-2400 or I5-2500k are affordable and pretty good , so i kind of lean toward one of them right now
Thanks in advance
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