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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
August 03 2011 19:41 GMT
#9081
What is your budget?
$600 max

What is your resolution?
Unsure

What are you using it for?
Gaming, mainly WoW and Starcraft 2 on lowest settings

What is your upgrade cycle?
As long as I can get

When do you plan on building it?
As soon as possible

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg.ca or other places if they are better

Any help appreciated! Thanks.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
Zepish
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada160 Posts
August 03 2011 19:42 GMT
#9082
Just received my new computer! I5 2500k with the CM Hyper 212. I overclocked it to 4.0ghz this afternoon, and Im running Prime95 right now.the temps are 57 62 64 61. Does it look high for such a small OC ?
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
August 03 2011 19:57 GMT
#9083
On August 04 2011 04:42 Zepish wrote:
Just received my new computer! I5 2500k with the CM Hyper 212. I overclocked it to 4.0ghz this afternoon, and Im running Prime95 right now.the temps are 57 62 64 61. Does it look high for such a small OC ?


That looks a bit high to me as a guess, but it depends on the voltage, case airflow, ambient temperatures, and so on--as well as how properly you mounted it and whether or not you applied the thermal paste correctly.

If you left voltages to "auto" it might have been bumped up (probably unnecessarily) when you increased the frequency.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 03 2011 19:58 GMT
#9084
On August 04 2011 04:41 Voltaire wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
What is your budget?
$600 max

What is your resolution?
Unsure

What are you using it for?
Gaming, mainly WoW and Starcraft 2 on lowest settings

What is your upgrade cycle?
As long as I can get

When do you plan on building it?
As soon as possible

Do you plan on overclocking?
No

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No

Where are you buying your parts from?
Newegg.ca or other places if they are better

Any help appreciated! Thanks.


Wait until tonight when NCIX's new sale starts and a configuration will be made for you.


On August 04 2011 04:42 Zepish wrote:
Just received my new computer! I5 2500k with the CM Hyper 212. I overclocked it to 4.0ghz this afternoon, and Im running Prime95 right now.the temps are 57 62 64 61. Does it look high for such a small OC ?


Depends on voltage and ambient temperature. It's an okayish load temperature I guess.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 03 2011 20:02 GMT
#9085
Seeing as my i7 930 runs closer to 70C than 60C @3.8 under load with that cooler, it doesn't seem too terribly unreasonable. You could probably get a higher OC at similar temps though, with manual voltages.

My CPU is more power hungry and lower stock speeds, after all. And it's running right around where it should be.
Zepish
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada160 Posts
August 03 2011 20:02 GMT
#9086
Ambient temperature must around 25, NCIX built the computer for me, so I would guess its all installed correctly. On CPU-Z the core voltage is at 1.044V
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 03 2011 20:03 GMT
#9087
On August 04 2011 05:02 Zepish wrote:
Ambient temperature must around 25, NCIX built the computer for me, so I would guess its all installed correctly. On CPU-Z the core voltage is at 1.044V


That's idle voltage. You need to check voltage during prime95 or load. I will be very surprised if that's what it's at for 4GHz... If that's what it is at 4GHz, overclock it further.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 03 2011 20:07 GMT
#9088
On August 04 2011 05:03 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 05:02 Zepish wrote:
Ambient temperature must around 25, NCIX built the computer for me, so I would guess its all installed correctly. On CPU-Z the core voltage is at 1.044V


That's idle voltage. You need to check voltage during prime95 or load. I will be very surprised if that's what it's at for 4GHz... If that's what it is at 4GHz, overclock it further.


Shit, if it's running that voltage at 4GHz, sell it on ebay for 4-5x what you spent on it.
Zepish
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada160 Posts
August 03 2011 20:09 GMT
#9089
Hmm Prime95 is running right now, I have RealTemps and CPU-Z running next to it and the only indication on voltage I have is from CPU-Z (Core Voltage) wich is at 1.044V am I looking at the wrong thing ?

If I overclock it further I fear it will probably get in the 70s though :S
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 03 2011 20:12 GMT
#9090
Is this a manual or auto / manual offset? Holy cow... 70c and even low 80c is fine for a prime95.
Zepish
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada160 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 20:18:24
August 03 2011 20:14 GMT
#9091
I think its at auto, I need to check, Ill stop prime55 for now and check into Bios. Ill edit when I know

Edit : Weird, my bios says my Vcore is at 1.320....

My Dynamic Vcore is at Auto
QPI/Vtt is auto
Graphics DVID Auto
PCH core Auto
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 03 2011 20:16 GMT
#9092
I hit 70C under P95 load, and that doesn't bother me at all, and I'm kind of temp paranoid, because I live in Texas, and ambients here suck.

Seriously, you should see how far you can push that chip, you may be able to flip that CPU for a good chunk of change if you wanted to.
Wabbit
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1028 Posts
August 03 2011 20:18 GMT
#9093
On August 04 2011 05:14 Zepish wrote:
I think its at auto, I need to check, Ill stop prime55 for now and check into Bios. Ill edit when I know


I (we all?) would still really like to know what the VCore is when running Prime95, though (especially if it's set to Auto in BIOS).
For me, CPU-Z updates kind of slow sometimes, maybe have another program by its side like HWMonitor.
The answers to most of your Tech Support questions are in the OP. That's why you're not getting a reply. It's been answered before. Read the OP.
Zepish
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada160 Posts
August 03 2011 20:19 GMT
#9094
On August 04 2011 05:16 JingleHell wrote:
I hit 70C under P95 load, and that doesn't bother me at all, and I'm kind of temp paranoid, because I live in Texas, and ambients here suck.

Seriously, you should see how far you can push that chip, you may be able to flip that CPU for a good chunk of change if you wanted to.


I see, I`ll try. Ill take it slow though just because its my first overclock... I enabled/disabled things ive seen in Guides and just played with the Clock ratio
Zepish
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada160 Posts
August 03 2011 20:20 GMT
#9095
On August 04 2011 05:18 Wabbit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2011 05:14 Zepish wrote:
I think its at auto, I need to check, Ill stop prime55 for now and check into Bios. Ill edit when I know


I (we all?) would still really like to know what the VCore is when running Prime95, though (especially if it's set to Auto in BIOS).
For me, CPU-Z updates kind of slow sometimes, maybe have another program by its side like HWMonitor.


Like I said, I let Prime55 run for about 1h30, and Vcore was at 1.044 all that time... Checking in the bios after stopping Prime, it was 1.320... Something must be wrong with CPU-Z
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 20:26:07
August 03 2011 20:24 GMT
#9096
Uhm, well, with Vdroop, or the sandy bridge equivalent, that 1.32 is probably a max voltage, instead of an actual.

But seriously, there's generally people willing to pay an assload for high quality silicon.
Zepish
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada160 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 20:28:42
August 03 2011 20:27 GMT
#9097
Ha. I see. I have no idea then, shoud I set a Vcore or let it at auto ? Theres actually no place to change the V core in my Bios... Ive only found what I listed in an earlier post :

Dynamic Vcore
QPI/Vtt Voltage
Graphics DVID
PCH core

@ JingleHell : Haha well I might aswell keep it and try to use it to its full potential!
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 20:32:31
August 03 2011 20:31 GMT
#9098
Dynamic vcore sounds like Vcore with a forced Vdroop, to me. But that's at best a semi-educated-ish guess, I've never played with sandy bridge.

I hate retarded BIOS settings. But yeah, a "Dynamic Vcore" sounds like a max vcore setting, and then it just pulls what it needs. Sounds iffy for function at higher OCs, if I'm guessing right though.

If I am right though, you can probably get a lot higher OC on air, and probably to the point that the CPU really would be worth some money. But again, that's just what some people would do. I'd probably keep the thing myself.
Zepish
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada160 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 20:35:03
August 03 2011 20:32 GMT
#9099
Yeah it must be that, also if its not at auto, the other options I have are only increments. (+0.200, +0.205 etc...)

Edit : Wow I just run CPU-Z WITHOUT P95 this time, and the Vcore is exactly the same... (1.044) I guess CPU-Z doesnt update it well or something...
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 03 2011 20:35 GMT
#9100
Your BIOS sounds like it was designed by chipmunks. One of the best reasons to spend more on a motherboard.
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