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On June 18 2011 11:16 scarymeerkat wrote:
Waittt a minute... I didn't install the fan myself, my friend did. He however seemed to think the thermal paste was already on... Is that an incredible mistake?? If so where do I get thermal paste?
It generally is, but checking is always a damned good idea. You can get some from any computer parts store. Also, if you didn't install it yourself, it could have been done wrong. Is the little wire from the fan running to your motherboard?
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On June 18 2011 11:03 Uhh Negative wrote:
RealTemp is showing a max of 55-56 so far on my cores with Prime 95 running the "blend" test.
This is with no OCing either.
That sounds about right. Well done, your computer shouldn't burn itself down.
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Yes. The fan is running. Just looking into the case right now I can see it spinning. and I'm pretty sure it was on properly but I will check. I just would like to get a good understanding of it. The Thermal Paste looked like three strips on the bottom of the cpu. Is that correct?
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Yeah, my bad, CPU-Z on it's own doesn't show fan RPM, EVGA e-leet does, I assumed it was a standard feature since it's so handy, and that's built off of CPU-ID.
SpeedFan will generally have at least your fan RPMs right.
On June 18 2011 11:22 scarymeerkat wrote:
Yes. The fan is running. Just looking into the case right now I can see it spinning. and I'm pretty sure it was on properly but I will check. I just would like to get a good understanding of it. The Thermal Paste looked like three strips on the bottom of the cpu. Is that correct?
Yes. That was thermal paste. If your heatsink is seated properly (it clearly isn't) you should have lower temps. Putting the heatsink on feels scary the first time you do it with those pushpins. Odds are your friend was trying not to break your motherboard and turned it into an easy bake oven instead.
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On June 18 2011 11:19 Womwomwom wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:03 Uhh Negative wrote:
RealTemp is showing a max of 55-56 so far on my cores with Prime 95 running the "blend" test.
This is with no OCing either. That sounds about right. Well done, your computer shouldn't burn itself down.
Haha awesome. Now to install games and download a billion updates on my slowish internet here at home.
I guess I'll work on overclocking later. Also, I could swear my CPU fan is blowing away from the fins, but then again it also feels like air is coming out the other side too. There's just so much damn airflow in my case I can't tell.
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Well, when he pushed the plastic pins in they came out the other side of the motherboard... And they all look about even I think. I will go check however. I should turn the computer off and completely remove the motherboard right?
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On June 18 2011 11:23 Uhh Negative wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:19 Womwomwom wrote:On June 18 2011 11:03 Uhh Negative wrote:
RealTemp is showing a max of 55-56 so far on my cores with Prime 95 running the "blend" test.
This is with no OCing either. That sounds about right. Well done, your computer shouldn't burn itself down. Haha awesome. Now to install games and download a billion updates on my slowish internet here at home.
Congrats on your first build. Nice feeling of accomplishment, isn't it? And now you should feel a little more comfortable with any troubleshooting or cleaning you need to do, because it's not as big of an unknown.
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On June 18 2011 11:26 scarymeerkat wrote:
Well, when he pushed the plastic pins in they came out the other side of the motherboard... And they all look about even I think. I will go check however. I should turn the computer off and completely remove the motherboard right?
Turn it off, turn off the PSU, push the power button to drain the capacitors at least. And of course, avoid carpet and fuzzy wool clothes. Removing it is a decent idea if you're going to take off the heatsink, but you'll really need to get new thermal paste if you're going to reseat, clean it off with high percentage rubbing alcohol. Reapply with the technique that vid I posted shows.
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On June 18 2011 11:26 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:23 Uhh Negative wrote:On June 18 2011 11:19 Womwomwom wrote:On June 18 2011 11:03 Uhh Negative wrote:
RealTemp is showing a max of 55-56 so far on my cores with Prime 95 running the "blend" test.
This is with no OCing either. That sounds about right. Well done, your computer shouldn't burn itself down. Haha awesome. Now to install games and download a billion updates on my slowish internet here at home. Congrats on your first build. Nice feeling of accomplishment, isn't it? And now you should feel a little more comfortable with any troubleshooting or cleaning you need to do, because it's not as big of an unknown.
Yeah so glad I built it myself. I've been wanting to do this since last summer but just got the chance this summer. Not going to lie though, it's stressful working with $850 worth of components especially when the motherboard+CPU is basically one third to half the cost of that.
On the topic of turning off my computer. Should I always turn off the PSU in the back too when I turn it off?
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On June 18 2011 11:28 Uhh Negative wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2011 11:26 JingleHell wrote:On June 18 2011 11:23 Uhh Negative wrote:On June 18 2011 11:19 Womwomwom wrote:On June 18 2011 11:03 Uhh Negative wrote:
RealTemp is showing a max of 55-56 so far on my cores with Prime 95 running the "blend" test.
This is with no OCing either. That sounds about right. Well done, your computer shouldn't burn itself down. Haha awesome. Now to install games and download a billion updates on my slowish internet here at home. Congrats on your first build. Nice feeling of accomplishment, isn't it? And now you should feel a little more comfortable with any troubleshooting or cleaning you need to do, because it's not as big of an unknown. Yeah so glad I built it myself. I've been wanting to do this since last summer but just got the chance this summer. Not going to lie though, it's stressful working with $850 worth of components especially when the motherboard+CPU is basically one third to half the cost of that.
Less so after the first time, I promise. More so when it's someone else's components, at least for me. That's why I get so offended at shit advice being given, when it happens.
Installing that first intel CPU is the worst, with the squishy crunch feeling.
And no, you don't need to turn the PSU off every time.
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Sorry to keep pestering. But what are the visual cues that it is not seated correctly... because everything I'm seeing tells me it is... The fan is straight and all 4 plastic pegs are poking about 1/8 inch through the back of the motherboard... is that not how it is supposed to be?
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Yeah for me it was installing the HSF. It wasn't too bad but the instructions were so terrible.
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On June 18 2011 11:32 scarymeerkat wrote:
Sorry to keep pestering. But what are the visual cues that it is not seated correctly... because everything I'm seeing tells me it is... The fan is straight and all 4 plastic pegs are poking about 1/8 inch through the back of the motherboard... is that not how it is supposed to be?
The thing is, you can't tell by looking at it that easily. And the cues you should be looking for are your temps, which happen to be somewhere between an "oh" and a "holy" on the "what word comes before shit" meter.
We're talking about differences of fractions of a millimeter making a difference, and you're looking at it with your naked eye on your first build, saying it should be fine. See why this might not be the best diagnostic?
Just get a $7 tube of thermal paste and an aftermarket heatsink with a mounting method NOT designed in the Special Olympics Science Fair.
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Hmmm... I think I may see what was done wrong. The notches in the pegs are not faving the corners... they seem to be turned in the position that they would need to be in to remove it i.e. unlocked position or something.
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Once again, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. The computer should not have suffered any irreversible harm thus far correct? I will not do anything with it until I follow those instructions and you have been very clear, and very helpful. I know I've been a little crazy simply because I'm worried about breaking it. Could you please just explain the one last thing I don't understand? How does this process work? i.e. why does that millimeter of difference matter so much? Is it that the thermal paste is not directly on the cpu and it needs to be?
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On June 18 2011 11:43 scarymeerkat wrote:
Once again, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. The computer should not have suffered any irreversible harm thus far correct? I will not do anything with it until I follow those instructions and you have been very clear, and very helpful. I know I've been a little crazy simply because I'm worried about breaking it. Could you please just explain the one last thing I don't understand? How does this process work? i.e. why does that millimeter of difference matter so much? Is it that the thermal paste is not directly on the cpu and it needs to be?
The thermal paste is designed to make up for that fraction of a millimeter. Basically, when you're trying to transfer that much heat efficiently, with that little surface area, you need as perfect of contact as possible. Any air molecules (not exaggerating) reduce thermal transfer, which lets your cores get hotter.
You SHOULD be ok, but I can't guarantee anything. Throttling isn't guaranteed to work, but it's designed to shut off before it hits the expected permanent damage range. And yes, locking the little bastards also helps considerably in keeping it seated properly.
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Ok. So you would suggest this one? Seems like a common one. http://ncix.com/products/?sku=41337
There should be no problems mounting that on my cpu right? It should be a lot simpler/easier than the intel heatsink installation?
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Mounting the backplate doesn't qualify as "easier" by any mangling of any definition of the word, but mounting the actual heatsink to the backplate is a walk in the park by comparison, and roughly impossible to do wrong. It's also a much better cooler, and that's a fair price for it.
That being said, since you were able to stretch logic far enough to figure out that it would work on your motherboard, I'm going to assume you'll be able to pull off the mounting of the backplate. It mostly just requires a spare set of hands and the ability to read the instructions.
And no, I'm not making fun of you, I just talk that way.
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Okay I will probably get that then. I just would like to have this work simply as it's my first build, so I'm willing to shell out an extra 30$ to make it not die... lol.
PS not exactly sure how the heatsink there actually mounts... but I'm sure it will become apparent when I get it.
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On June 18 2011 12:06 scarymeerkat wrote:
Okay I will probably get that then. I just would like to have this work simply as it's my first build, so I'm willing to shell out an extra 30$ to make it not die... lol.
PS not exactly sure how the heatsink there actually mounts... but I'm sure it will become apparent when I get it.
It has a bracket that attaches to the motherboard, which you screw the heatsink into. It's also a direct touch heatpipe model, so you do thermal paste slightly differently. Thin lines on each heatpipe, specifically.
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