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kuruptt
Canada168 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
sc2 i7-740QM Seriously one of the worst CPU's to have the sc2. I'd expect overclocked Haswell to wreck it really, really hard, 3 maybe 5x+ better minimums depending on how well turbo works on the first gen i7 qm's and your laptop in particular. If it's turboing 1 core close to 3ghz if you're just playing sc2, it's really far behind oc'd haswell on desktop, but if it's not (stuck below 2ghz due to thermals, bad turbo boost or utilising more cores so turbo cant ramp up on 1) then it'd get completely obliterated performance-wise. I can't really see a nice Haswell system performing worse than like 3x better though. You can double singlethreaded performance of the max single core turbo of a 740qm just with frequency and IPC (lets say, 50% higher ghz, 30% faster at the same clock speed) and then throw in some faster RAM and take into account that sc2 minimums scale exponentially with CPU performance, and you're just in a completely different performance league from something like a 740qm or a mid-clocked stock core 2 duo. Yea, you can get good framerate streaming+playing. Performance just suffers more and more as you increase FPS, and often resolution of the stream, compared to playing without stream What do you want from a cooling solution? How important is high OC/good temps, noise, cost, space taken up etc? Closed loop liquid coolers are generally not really a better option than air a lot of the time. For example i got my Silver Arrow for £50, it's within ~5c of corsair h100i and half the price. It's big though, and requires RAM without big heat spreaders (which you dont want anyway) but is trickier to mount and blocks access to top fans etc unless you unmount it. I think air coolers are negatively affected more if you have subpar airflow, too. Typically though, good air coolers are rather quiet. Think of the u12s, u14s, nh-d14, silver arrow. They have big fans, my silver arrow has a pair of 140mm's that cap out around ~1200rpm. The u15s has a 150mm fan. They're all really quiet, AFAIK closed loop coolers are significantly louder at anywhere near the max fan speeds, they typically (like the h100i for example) are 240mm rads with a pair of 120mm fans, which have to ramp up to increase airflow and heat exchange And with a lategame bench, i didn't see any FPS change on med shaders (with and without cpu settings up) upgrading from gtx260 to 770 (an increase in strength of what, 500%? I have no idea) even with my pretty-much-highest-end-possible CPU setup, sc2 has so little GPU load. CPU load increases by 10x+ as game lengh goes up* (and you go from 12 units up towards hundreds), GPU load per frame could double (i'm not sure if it does) and you'd still have 1/5'th as much GPU load in lategame vs early, because there's 1/10'th as many frames due to the CPU *Or rather, CPU load stays the same pretty much, but instead of being able to produce 500fps in the same amount of work, it only gets 50fps done, cause it takes a lot more work with so many more units In worst case FPS (2v2) min vs max settings (basically everything aside from physics, effects, reflections) didn't change my minimum fps with my last system even with gtx260, so if you have any remotely decent graphics card, you're good for sc2. I don't know about dota though | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On July 08 2013 06:38 Nooborghini wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On July 08 2013 02:19 Cyro wrote: OBS game capture is the best performing software method i know of (though you have to fight with it sometimes for it to give you the FPS you set..) better than dxtory etc 460 would be overkill for trying to maintain 60-100fps minimums on sc2 max settings, on low shaders etc ultra textures, then gtx 260 would be really overkill, as in, won't pull less than 200-500+fps unless you're cpu limited You can grab some ~2400mhz RAM, cas 10/11/12 (lower latency = better) cause it doesn't cost much more than normal RAM (you can get 8gb for like $20 more than the slowest ram most of the time) and it's significantly better, you have gains in the ~5-10% league sc2 compared to random 1333/1600 RAM and it helps a bit for encoding What specifically do you want from liquid cooling? Cause most people seem to think anything with liquid in it is amazing, when in reality most of the closed loop coolers etc are actually pretty bad Use i5, unless you want to spend quite a bit of money for potentially 0 gains. You can just clock i5 to 4.5-4.8 (depending on luck) and run 1920x1080, 48fps stream. There's not much point making higher fps stream when it will just pull your game performance down further etc, you can squeeze another ~20% fps out potentially with hyperthreading, but it'll cost you 100mhz heat-wise on overclock, plus the i5-i7 price difference, plus the game will run worse if you stream with higher fps at a high resolution too so i don't think it's worth it at all for sc2 What CPU do you have right now? You can get really, really great performance with a strong, overclocked cpu (and high OC + nice RAM will literally give you 60% more minimum FPS than same, best available singlethreaded CPU at stock + 1600 RAM) Never dropping below ~60fps in any cirumstances in maxed fights etc is a bit tricky to pull off, you can probably do it npnp though with physics and reflections disabled (physics, effects, reflections.. cpu settings, not graphics settings) but the massive performance losses from using a software solution for screen capture etc for a high resolution and FPS stream really hurt, 1920x1080, 48fps you're losing at best a third of your framerate AFAIK. Think of how much it messes up game to run 720p60 stream, and then double it  On low shaders though my CPU gives like 500-700fps at start of game. I don't mind losing a third of that I'm using a laptop atm, alienware m17x-r2. I needed a portable comp that could run sc2 but atm, the processor is lacking. I have a i7-740QM @ 1.73ghz and a ATI 5870M and 16GB of 1833Mhz Ram. Thank you so much for your insight, I was thinking i5 too. I would be running 1080p but be streaming on 720p so I assume I can get 60 frames while maintaining a significant amount when i play right? For the liquid cooling, could you recommend me one? I don't have anything in mind. You don't need liquid for a decent overclock. If you just want it to look nice then you're going to spend significantly more to get the same performance as you do with a high-end radiator heatsink. Noctua NH-U14S can be had for $63 at MemoryExpress ( http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45777 ) by pricematching Newegg ( http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608041 ). You'd have to spend $100+ on a Corsair H100i for equivalent performance. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
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Nooborghini
Canada136 Posts
On July 08 2013 07:00 Cyro wrote: + Show Spoiler + Seriously one of the worst CPU's to have the sc2. I'd expect overclocked Haswell to wreck it really, really hard, 3 maybe 5x+ better minimums depending on how well turbo works on the first gen i7 qm's and your laptop in particular. If it's turboing 1 core close to 3ghz if you're just playing sc2, it's really far behind oc'd haswell on desktop, but if it's not (stuck below 2ghz due to thermals, bad turbo boost or utilising more cores so turbo cant ramp up on 1) then it'd get completely obliterated performance-wise. I can't really see a nice Haswell system performing worse than like 3x better though. You can double singlethreaded performance of the max single core turbo of a 740qm just with frequency and IPC (lets say, 50% higher ghz, 30% faster at the same clock speed) and then throw in some faster RAM and take into account that sc2 minimums scale exponentially with CPU performance, and you're just in a completely different performance league from something like a 740qm or a mid-clocked stock core 2 duo. Yea, you can get good framerate streaming+playing. Performance just suffers more and more as you increase FPS, and often resolution of the stream, compared to playing without stream What do you want from a cooling solution? How important is high OC/good temps, noise, cost, space taken up etc? Closed loop liquid coolers are generally not really a better option than air a lot of the time. For example i got my Silver Arrow for £50, it's within ~5c of corsair h100i and half the price. It's big though, and requires RAM without big heat spreaders (which you dont want anyway) but is trickier to mount and blocks access to top fans etc unless you unmount it. I think air coolers are negatively affected more if you have subpar airflow, too. Typically though, good air coolers are rather quiet. Think of the u12s, u14s, nh-d14, silver arrow. They have big fans, my silver arrow has a pair of 140mm's that cap out around ~1200rpm. The u15s has a 150mm fan. They're all really quiet, AFAIK closed loop coolers are significantly louder at anywhere near the max fan speeds, they typically (like the h100i for example) are 240mm rads with a pair of 120mm fans, which have to ramp up to increase airflow and heat exchange And with a lategame bench, i didn't see any FPS change on med shaders (with and without cpu settings up) upgrading from gtx260 to 770 (an increase in strength of what, 500%? I have no idea) even with my pretty-much-highest-end-possible CPU setup, sc2 has so little GPU load. CPU load increases by 10x+ as game lengh goes up* (and you go from 12 units up towards hundreds), GPU load per frame could double (i'm not sure if it does) and you'd still have 1/5'th as much GPU load in lategame vs early, because there's 1/10'th as many frames due to the CPU *Or rather, CPU load stays the same pretty much, but instead of being able to produce 500fps in the same amount of work, it only gets 50fps done, cause it takes a lot more work with so many more units In worst case FPS (2v2) min vs max settings (basically everything aside from physics, effects, reflections) didn't change my minimum fps with my last system even with gtx260, so if you have any remotely decent graphics card, you're good for sc2. I don't know about dota though maaaaaan I really have NO idea what you are trying to say LOL. I think what I got out of that was if you are doing air cooler, you need to have proper air flow or else you gimped vs liquid which is standard. Yeah it's a very bad core. Very poor investment I made. This is why I just want to make sure I want to get the right one this time. When I don't stream, I don't have too much problems with my game play. I just want a system setup with a ~50-60fps while streaming 720p w/ 60fps. If there is another configuration, could I get a setup with 1080p w/ 30-40 fps. Would both of these be CPU or GPU dependent? Cause if it's CPU dependent and I can get away with a i5 then replace a GPU later I can do that when I want to stream at 1080p but right now, 720p is something I would do. So if the switch from 720p w/ 60 fps is with a GTX 460 to 1080p w/ a ~30-40fps w/ a better GPU but both the same CPU, I'd be quite happy with that. On July 08 2013 07:01 skyR wrote: + Show Spoiler + On July 08 2013 06:38 Nooborghini wrote:+ Show Spoiler + On July 08 2013 02:19 Cyro wrote: OBS game capture is the best performing software method i know of (though you have to fight with it sometimes for it to give you the FPS you set..) better than dxtory etc 460 would be overkill for trying to maintain 60-100fps minimums on sc2 max settings, on low shaders etc ultra textures, then gtx 260 would be really overkill, as in, won't pull less than 200-500+fps unless you're cpu limited You can grab some ~2400mhz RAM, cas 10/11/12 (lower latency = better) cause it doesn't cost much more than normal RAM (you can get 8gb for like $20 more than the slowest ram most of the time) and it's significantly better, you have gains in the ~5-10% league sc2 compared to random 1333/1600 RAM and it helps a bit for encoding What specifically do you want from liquid cooling? Cause most people seem to think anything with liquid in it is amazing, when in reality most of the closed loop coolers etc are actually pretty bad Use i5, unless you want to spend quite a bit of money for potentially 0 gains. You can just clock i5 to 4.5-4.8 (depending on luck) and run 1920x1080, 48fps stream. There's not much point making higher fps stream when it will just pull your game performance down further etc, you can squeeze another ~20% fps out potentially with hyperthreading, but it'll cost you 100mhz heat-wise on overclock, plus the i5-i7 price difference, plus the game will run worse if you stream with higher fps at a high resolution too so i don't think it's worth it at all for sc2 What CPU do you have right now? You can get really, really great performance with a strong, overclocked cpu (and high OC + nice RAM will literally give you 60% more minimum FPS than same, best available singlethreaded CPU at stock + 1600 RAM) Never dropping below ~60fps in any cirumstances in maxed fights etc is a bit tricky to pull off, you can probably do it npnp though with physics and reflections disabled (physics, effects, reflections.. cpu settings, not graphics settings) but the massive performance losses from using a software solution for screen capture etc for a high resolution and FPS stream really hurt, 1920x1080, 48fps you're losing at best a third of your framerate AFAIK. Think of how much it messes up game to run 720p60 stream, and then double it On low shaders though my CPU gives like 500-700fps at start of game. I don't mind losing a third of that I'm using a laptop atm, alienware m17x-r2. I needed a portable comp that could run sc2 but atm, the processor is lacking. I have a i7-740QM @ 1.73ghz and a ATI 5870M and 16GB of 1833Mhz Ram. Thank you so much for your insight, I was thinking i5 too. I would be running 1080p but be streaming on 720p so I assume I can get 60 frames while maintaining a significant amount when i play right? For the liquid cooling, could you recommend me one? I don't have anything in mind. You don't need liquid for a decent overclock. If you just want it to look nice then you're going to spend significantly more to get the same performance as you do with a high-end radiator heatsink. Noctua NH-U14S can be had for $63 at MemoryExpress ( http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX45777 ) by pricematching Newegg ( http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608041 ). You'd have to spend $100+ on a Corsair H100i for equivalent performance. I don't know if OC is needed, I heard you need to OC to stream 720p and 1080p. I'm not too worried about dropping money for a good cooler. It's just I don't want to buy a expensive GPU when I can just get away using my friend's old 460 | ||
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azngamer828
United States137 Posts
1) is it good to have a power supply gasket? 2) same question but about anti-vibration fan mount? 3) same question but about the GIGABYTE GC-WB300D Exclusive Bluetooth 4.0/WiFi PCIe Expansion Card? 4) is it better to have an INTERNAL wireless card or an EXTERNAL wireless card? | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On July 08 2013 09:39 azngamer828 wrote: couple questions and please explain! 1) is it good to have a power supply gasket? 2) same question but about anti-vibration fan mount? 3) same question but about the GIGABYTE GC-WB300D Exclusive Bluetooth 4.0/WiFi PCIe Expansion Card? 4) is it better to have an INTERNAL wireless card or an EXTERNAL wireless card? No idea what 1 is. There is no downside to having number 2. Gaming on wireless is not recommended, external you might be able to move closer to the transmitter of wireless but otherwise there should be no real difference. | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
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Rannasha
Netherlands2398 Posts
On July 08 2013 09:39 azngamer828 wrote: couple questions and please explain! 1) is it good to have a power supply gasket? It can reduce vibrations caused by the fan of the powersupply. Whether or not this is useful highly depends on the PSU you have and how much you value noise reduction. 2) same question but about anti-vibration fan mount? Same answer as above ^^ 3) same question but about the GIGABYTE GC-WB300D Exclusive Bluetooth 4.0/WiFi PCIe Expansion Card? Do you need Bluetooth and/or WiFi? If not, then you don't need this thing. For gaming, always prefer wired internet. I don't know this particular model of WiFi/BT card. 4) is it better to have an INTERNAL wireless card or an EXTERNAL wireless card? Doesn't matter much. Internal cards often come with an antenna you can screw onto the rear of the card. Externals typically go into a USB port, so they're still very close to the pc and you don't really gain much by it being external. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6216 Posts
On the other hand I got a pretty decent gtx 760. It'll hit 1306mhz core clock rather cleanly (+160mhz) and memory goes at least +150mhz (Still working on slowly upping it). | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On July 08 2013 08:40 Nooborghini wrote: maaaaaan I really have NO idea what you are trying to say LOL. I think what I got out of that was if you are doing air cooler, you need to have proper air flow or else you gimped vs liquid which is standard. Yeah it's a very bad core. Very poor investment I made. This is why I just want to make sure I want to get the right one this time. When I don't stream, I don't have too much problems with my game play. I just want a system setup with a ~50-60fps while streaming 720p w/ 60fps. If there is another configuration, could I get a setup with 1080p w/ 30-40 fps. Would both of these be CPU or GPU dependent? Cause if it's CPU dependent and I can get away with a i5 then replace a GPU later I can do that when I want to stream at 1080p but right now, 720p is something I would do. So if the switch from 720p w/ 60 fps is with a GTX 460 to 1080p w/ a ~30-40fps w/ a better GPU but both the same CPU, I'd be quite happy with that. I don't know if OC is needed, I heard you need to OC to stream 720p and 1080p. I'm not too worried about dropping money for a good cooler. It's just I don't want to buy a expensive GPU when I can just get away using my friend's old 460 1080 stream at half as high FPS at 720 probably gives you even more FPS ingame, not less OC helps game performance, like i said you can see 50-60% higher minimum FPS from overclocking and having good RAM 460 is a beast for sc2, you don't need more I was just talking about advantages/disadvantages of liquid. I don't have nor want anything liquid that is available for any kind of decent price, and i can't really see anyone who wants it aside from niche situations when there's a $63 u14s available, so saying why. u14s will be somewhere around the same performance as h100i with stock fans i guess, while being ~$40 cheaper and making much less noise. The "mid-high" range closed loop coolers like the h100i are expensive and loud without any real defining performance, the lower priced ones (like h80i or below) are really loud and really bad at cooling a CPU and then stuff like aftermarket fans for a dual rad cooler push the price up notably, and better liquid cooling (that is significantly better than high end air) can go to much more expensive prices Pretty much everything talked about is really CPU dependant, 460 won't hold you back much unless you consider "my fps is only 200 at the start of the game, and then the same as a weaker graphics card later because cpu is deciding fps" | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
On July 08 2013 17:21 Lmui wrote: Well I got a pretty crappy 4670k. I've tried coercing it through various means but it pretty much refuses to go above 4.3ghz without massive volts and higher temps than I'd like =(. On the other hand I got a pretty decent gtx 760. It'll hit 1306mhz core clock rather cleanly (+160mhz) and memory goes at least +150mhz (Still working on slowly upping it). edit: Oops, it's the same guy. I still think you should be able to tweak a bit. How much vcore do you need to go from 4.3 to 4.4 stable for pass 1 and 2 of x264 bench, or like half an hour of adia? I don't know how good adia is, i've never seen it fail and i've never ran it with a stable overclock either. I don't think there's any really good tools for haswell, just gotta kinda improvise.. I mean, does 4.3 to 4.4 take 0.03vcore, or 0.08+? Something in between? Did you put RAM/uncore multipliers down? (but leave ring volts the same at like 1.2 and ram volts/timings the same) You shouldn't decide on stability for core or try to raise it when uncore is i think at 4.3ghz you said. Uncore/RAM is king of causing confusing instability at some settings but not others. Your temps shouldn't be too high before ~1.3-1.35v without HT on high end air, but you can trigger pretty wild behaivour with them if you are running stress testy programs with avx on. edit:I tried a cinebench ht off @1.32v and my max temp was 77c even though it's ridiculously hot in here (2-3pm on one of the hottest days of the year, it must be close to 30c in my room when it's usually 15 or so) Cut 0.02v more and multiple cinebench runs maxing at 74c hottest core, x264 isn't as hot. So you should be able to do more than 1.25v on a u14s with ht off. Seems like ht might actually be related to my issues making higher frequencies stable too, that's why i was testing in the first place | ||
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Soap
Brazil1546 Posts
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Big Monkey
United Kingdom473 Posts
The PC Customiser VAM124 Desktop PC features an AMD Bulldozer FX 4100 Quad Core Processor running at a blistering 4.0Ghz! Coupled with 16GB DDR3 1333Mhz RAM for Excellent Performance. It is designed as a Gaming PC which will of course also be able to handle all your day to day tasks with ease. Please check out the detailed specs below, and of course if this particular PC is not quite right for you, why not take a look at our eBay shop where you will find hundreds of different PCs to suit every need and budget. And if you can't find exactly what you need here on eBay, please don't hesitate to contact us and we can design the PC exactly as you want it. Item Features: AMD Bulldozer FX 4100 Quad Core Processor / CPU running at 4.0Ghz 16GB DDR3 1333Mhz RAM AMD / ATi HD 6450 Graphics Card With HUGE 2GB Dedicated DDR3 Graphics Memory 1TB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive CD / DVD-RW Dual Layer Optical Disc Drive MSI 760GM-P21-(FX) uATX Motherboard (Full specifications of this board can be found here) 500W Quiet Power Supply featuring large 120mm fan High Quality Vantage BLUE Desktop PC Gaming Case Fast Ethernet 10 / 100 LAN Port 6 X High Speed USB 2.0 Ports on Back PLUS Additional 2 Ports On Top of Case 8 Channel HD Audio 4 X SATA II 3GB/s Ports 1 X PCI Express X16 Slot 1 X PCI Express X1 Slot 1 X PCI Slot 2 X PS/2 Port (For Keyboard / Mouse) 1 X VGA Port 1 X DVI Port 1 x HDMI Port (With Audio) Dual Monitor Support Includes UK Mains Power Cable Includes All Relevant Driver Discs & Manuals The cost for this without operating system is £355 Many thanks if yu can advise or compete with this | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On July 09 2013 01:47 Big Monkey wrote:+ Show Spoiler + I was looking at getting a new gaming pc this month and someone reccomended asking in here. This is the spec i was going to buy before i was told to ask in here. The PC Customiser VAM124 Desktop PC features an AMD Bulldozer FX 4100 Quad Core Processor running at a blistering 4.0Ghz! Coupled with 16GB DDR3 1333Mhz RAM for Excellent Performance. It is designed as a Gaming PC which will of course also be able to handle all your day to day tasks with ease. Please check out the detailed specs below, and of course if this particular PC is not quite right for you, why not take a look at our eBay shop where you will find hundreds of different PCs to suit every need and budget. And if you can't find exactly what you need here on eBay, please don't hesitate to contact us and we can design the PC exactly as you want it. Item Features: AMD Bulldozer FX 4100 Quad Core Processor / CPU running at 4.0Ghz 16GB DDR3 1333Mhz RAM AMD / ATi HD 6450 Graphics Card With HUGE 2GB Dedicated DDR3 Graphics Memory 1TB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive CD / DVD-RW Dual Layer Optical Disc Drive MSI 760GM-P21-(FX) uATX Motherboard (Full specifications of this board can be found here) 500W Quiet Power Supply featuring large 120mm fan High Quality Vantage BLUE Desktop PC Gaming Case Fast Ethernet 10 / 100 LAN Port 6 X High Speed USB 2.0 Ports on Back PLUS Additional 2 Ports On Top of Case 8 Channel HD Audio 4 X SATA II 3GB/s Ports 1 X PCI Express X16 Slot 1 X PCI Express X1 Slot 1 X PCI Slot 2 X PS/2 Port (For Keyboard / Mouse) 1 X VGA Port 1 X DVI Port 1 x HDMI Port (With Audio) Dual Monitor Support Includes UK Mains Power Cable Includes All Relevant Driver Discs & Manuals The cost for this without operating system is £355 Many thanks if yu can advise or compete with this You should answer the questions in the OP so that we can better understand your needs. If this is for gaming then this is a shitty build. Radeon HD6450 is only okay for low settings and/or low resolutions. It is not suitable for 1080p gaming, well except for League of Legends. FX4100 is terrible. Phenom II X4 is less expensive while performing better. 16gb of memory is useless for gaming. Money is better spent elsewhere. | ||
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Big Monkey
United Kingdom473 Posts
On July 09 2013 02:00 skyR wrote: You should answer the questions in the OP so that we can better understand your needs. If this is for gaming then this is a shitty build. Radeon HD6450 is only okay for low settings and/or low resolutions. It is not suitable for 1080p gaming, well except for League of Legends. FX4100 is terrible. Phenom II X4 is less expensive while performing better. 16gb of memory is useless for gaming. Money is better spent elsewhere. Yes this is for gaming. Eve online. My computer knowledge is minimal. I was just advised someone might be able to sell/build me a decent spec gaming pc on a similar budget to the one i was looking at so thought id ask in here. | ||
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On July 09 2013 02:03 Big Monkey wrote: Yes this is for gaming. Eve online. My computer knowledge is minimal. I was just advised someone might be able to sell/build me a decent spec gaming pc on a similar budget to the one i was looking at so thought id ask in here. What this thread does is tell you the parts to buy, then you buy it and put it together. If you don't think you can handle assembling a computer (its just expensive lego) then there is probably a business in the UK that puts together decent computers but they will be notably more expensive. You only play Eve online? Do you have a budget? Answer the questions in the OP. | ||
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Cereb
Denmark3388 Posts
I am buying a new pc today / tomorrow and I would like some input. The very specific demand I have for this pc is that it should be able to run Skyrim at 1080 x 1920 with HD mods and ENB quite well. This is of course quite a demand and it’s further complicated with the fact that I am very limited on cash. I have done some research to get the most for as little as possible that would accomplish my goal but I would love some feedback. This is what I have ended up with: Intel Core i7 3770 / 3.4 GHz Processor - LGA1155 Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO processor-køler - 92mm 17-30dBA Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H - Micro-ATX LGA1155 Kingston HyperX blu - 8GB DDR3 1600MHz PC3-12800 CL10 MSI N670GTX-PM2D2GD5/OC grafikkort - GF-GTX670 2GB Seagate Barracuda harddisk - 3.5″ SATA-600 1TB Samsung SH-224BB - SATA Intern DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM Sort Cooler Master Elite 342 - Micro-ATX Sort XFX Core Edition PRO550W Would this accomplish its purpose? Is there any way to do it and save some more cash? Should I take some more money from the CPU and invest in a better the GPU? Are there any issues with the motherboard vs the components? Also will the 550W be enough power? Would more ram give my pc more longevity? Also I do not plan to overclock or upgrade (I usually just get a brand new pc when the time is). But if I could save a lot of money going for another system that could be overclocked then I probably would. But it seems that the money I would save on the CPU would just be spent on the motherboard / power / cooler instead. I am having the pc made from a Danish site where I have quite a few options of hardware. You can view it here to see what is able to be changed: https://www.fcomputer.dk/?show=system_show&systemlinkid=122162 Any input would be much appreciated! Also, I was considering assembling it myself but after looking at prices of the components individually vs the prices of this company I almost wouldn't save anything (Looking at Danish companies only) | ||
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PowerDes
United States520 Posts
Resolution. 1920 x 1080, using for mostly gaming but would like the option to have it be able to stream while maintaining maximum performance. I don't plan on overclocking, and I don't know if having more than one graphics card is optimal (if someone can fill me in on how having more than one graphics card works, that would be great). Probably won't be upgrading after purchasing unless a certain part breaks/needs maintenance. Will probably be ordering all or most of the parts off newegg. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On July 09 2013 03:20 Cereb wrote:+ Show Spoiler + Hallo smart folks! I am buying a new pc today / tomorrow and I would like some input. The very specific demand I have for this pc is that it should be able to run Skyrim at 1080 x 1920 with HD mods and ENB quite well. This is of course quite a demand and it’s further complicated with the fact that I am very limited on cash. I have done some research to get the most for as little as possible that would accomplish my goal but I would love some feedback. This is what I have ended up with: Intel Core i7 3770 / 3.4 GHz Processor - LGA1155 Cooler Master Hyper TX3 EVO processor-køler - 92mm 17-30dBA Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H - Micro-ATX LGA1155 Kingston HyperX blu - 8GB DDR3 1600MHz PC3-12800 CL10 MSI N670GTX-PM2D2GD5/OC grafikkort - GF-GTX670 2GB Seagate Barracuda harddisk - 3.5″ SATA-600 1TB Samsung SH-224BB - SATA Intern DVD±RW (±R DL) / DVD-RAM Sort Cooler Master Elite 342 - Micro-ATX Sort XFX Core Edition PRO550W Would this accomplish its purpose? Is there any way to do it and save some more cash? Should I take some more money from the CPU and invest in a better the GPU? Are there any issues with the motherboard vs the components? Also will the 550W be enough power? Would more ram give my pc more longevity? Also I do not plan to overclock or upgrade (I usually just get a brand new pc when the time is). But if I could save a lot of money going for another system that could be overclocked then I probably would. But it seems that the money I would save on the CPU would just be spent on the motherboard / power / cooler instead. I am having the pc made from a Danish site where I have quite a few options of hardware. You can view it here to see what is able to be changed: https://www.fcomputer.dk/?show=system_show&systemlinkid=122162 Any input would be much appreciated! Skyrim does not benefit from hyperthreading the last time I checked so an i5 will be essentially the same as an i7. You're just spending significantly more for something that does nothing in gaming and a bit of extra cache which is negligible. You can get a 3570K along with a Z77 for the same price and overclock it, which would perform better in gaming than a 3770 and B75 which can't be overclocked. If you have no intentions of overclocking than a core i5 3570 (without the K) and b75 is fine. More memory does not make your PC last longer. Gamers typically don't use more than 8gb unless they are multi-boxing or utilizing a RAMdisk. Memory is an easy addition so there is no point wasting cash now on something that you may not utilize. Just add more later when you feel that it is necessary. 550w is more than sufficient for this configuration. GTX 670 is okay for Skyrim. If you're trying to possibly save money or don't have enough for an SSD then you can step down to a GTX 660 Ti or Radeon HD7870. The difference between having a SSD and not having a SSD is much greater than the difference between a GTX 660 Ti / 7870 and a GTX 670. Skyrim along with other MMOs benefit greatly from an SSD so you should consider getting a Samsung 840 120gb or 250gb. Keep in mind you need an operating system if you don't already have one to be used. I'm not familiar with Denmark pricing but if you were to build it on your own. You'd possibly be able to get the newer / better components (eg. core i5 4670 and GTX 760). | ||
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