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-RusH
United States240 Posts
All of the ASrock motherboards show up as 1 year for me. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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holistic
United States21 Posts
This is the only bench I have seen and it is for the GPU on haswell. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Intel/Core_i7_4770K_Haswell_GPU/16.html | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
BUT there is evidence it is more tricky to overclock, at least in raw difficulty and amount of settings you have to tune, but there's a lot of weirdness going on with heat right now that is kinda unexplained. Like i saw from literally i think 4 sources, 90-100c on 1.2-1.25v on haswell with a h100i, but there's also a ton of people saying temps are only a few C hotter than ivy bridge, or the same | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
I tried finding the scene they use to get those low FPS, but couldn't. For WoL, they probably used this sequence: + Show Spoiler + | ||
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holistic
United States21 Posts
In reading up on oc stuff I came across a page for 3770k delidding. This was the conclusion: The Intel stock CPU TIM is not the reason Ivy Bridge's run hot, and replacing the Intel stock CPU TIM is not the reason a delidded Ivy Bridge runs so much cooler - the benefits of delidding are entirely due to the resultant reduction in gap height between the CPU silicon die and the underside of the IHS. Could it be that the lottery of heat rates in ivy bridge/haswell chips stems from the variable size of gap between cpu and IHS? Maybe someone will be brave enough in the coming months to test this. | ||
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holistic
United States21 Posts
It's disappointing that even with a Titan and a 4770k, the max frames from a scene of terrible, terrible damage on max cpu settings is 32.4, with a minimum of 12. Where can I find out if the 4770k was overclocked for that bench test? | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
That delidding stuff is something separate, but it's true that some chips are also worse than others in that regard. | ||
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holistic
United States21 Posts
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
I didn't read the article, only skimmed it. I didn't see anything about overclocking for the tests. It should be at stock speed. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
On June 06 2013 21:43 holistic wrote: I wonder if the weirdness in heat has to do with the gap between the cpu and ihs in manufacturing. In reading up on oc stuff I came across a page for 3770k delidding. This was the conclusion: The Intel stock CPU TIM is not the reason Ivy Bridge's run hot, and replacing the Intel stock CPU TIM is not the reason a delidded Ivy Bridge runs so much cooler - the benefits of delidding are entirely due to the resultant reduction in gap height between the CPU silicon die and the underside of the IHS. Could it be that the lottery of heat rates in ivy bridge/haswell chips stems from the variable size of gap between cpu and IHS? Maybe someone will be brave enough in the coming months to test this. People are already testing, and i plan to be one of them soon (: The highly variable temp loads are scary though. I've heard too of massive changes in temp during load, as much as 15-20c variance within short periods of time etc, it makes me wonder if there's another thing like adaptive voltage where people were accidentally getting 0.15v more than they set without realizing and getting crazy temps; there's also some reports of CPU death at low voltages, but only on non-retail cpu's AFAIK To have two cpu's, with the same cooler and settings and have one below 70c while the other is breaking 90 is extremely worrying unless one of them is a freak accident | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
Basically, I'm speculating that could be a difference between different boards and their Auto settings for that. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
Basically, I'm speculating that could be a difference between different boards and their Auto settings for that. Ah i dunno. There's so many more variables. I know you can change it pretty vastly, along with other stuff | ||
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holistic
United States21 Posts
There is a setting called adaptive voltage in the bios that allows for minimum power usage and maximum usage when its needed, based upon your settings. The only issue is that it is overridden during specific stress testing programs, such as PRIME95. EG: 1.25V turns into 1.37V Apparently, it is safe to use the adaptive setting AFTER you finish setting up your OC. The explanation of voltage settings in the BIOS starts at 12:30 Hope this helps! | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
I wouldn't use adaptive with any kind of high OC especially with reports of CPU death. If you're running 1.4v and you get a 0.2v overvolt you'll degrade the cpu extremely quickly even if it's hardly ever triggered, even at something conservative like 1.2v, i wouldnt want to risk a random 0.15v overvolt, even if it's not "supposed" to happen. It triggers with a ton of AVX instructions or something, which a lot of stress tests do, but i wouldn't be suprised if you could make it happen in some niche real world load | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20343 Posts
I plan to (: And lots of attention, wow, is nobody else building haswell? ;p | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On June 06 2013 08:26 skyR wrote: Xigmatek isn't widely available in Canada and they don't have products that particularly stand out. And as Ropid mentioned, the use of direct touch is not as good as a base. The Hyper 212 got Coolermaster famous but other than that, I don't think they have anything good. Noctua is well known for their free lifetime mounting kits and were one of the first companies to debut these high-end heatsinks. Phantek is relatively new but their dual radiator heatsink has been shown that it performs better than the NH-D14 and is available in various colours. Phantek and Noctua also have similar easy mounting procedures and their provided TIM is excellent as well. The same can be said for Thermalright but their availability in North America isn't great. You might as well treat yourself to the best for $20 more since you're already getting an i7 and planning on doing SLI. The cost is justifiable if you consider their level of support, the included two fans, and quality of TIM compared to Thermaltake, Coolermaster, and the other non niche companies. I'm back after another day's research. Definitely going with the NH-D14 now, edging out Phanteks based on customer support reputation and extra year of warranty. I'm still waffling on the power supply. That one you linked, the HX650, has lots of reports of sounds like bird chirps when the fan changes speeds. This is the kind of thing that will almost certainly annoy me. I'm not sure where else to look for a 650w gold-rated modular PSU though. actually I found http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151118&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=5961731&SID=0 but it's not as cheap as I was hoping to get. | ||
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zSoloo
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On June 03 2013 04:33 zSoloo wrote: Just for reference to anyone who is in the same boat that I'm in: Case: SilverStone Temjin Series TJ08B PSU: SeaSonic G Series SSR-550RM 550W ATX12V HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB CPU:Intel Core i5-4670 Haswell 3.4GHz LGA GPU: Sapphire 7850 1GB Mobo: ASUS B85-PLUS LGA 1150 Intel B85 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (99$) Ram: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) DVD Drive: LITE-ON DVD Burner 795$ +/- (Add extra 99$ for SSD) Thanks for all the help everyone I got all my parts in, tried to put it together - Wont even turn on for more than 2 seconds So i took everything apart, And just hooked up the Mobo + Processor + Mem (+ / - Vid Card ) And still the fan only cuts on for 1-2 seconds then shuts off Tried re-mounting the CPU + all Ram sticks, still same problem - Any help? | ||
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