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Hey guys, I'm planning a new build, I think i have the parts sussed out, I live in New Zealand which limits the Availability of certain parts but I found a retailer who can pretty much do everything i need at a pretty reasonable price.
MoBo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0
CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K Unlocked Gen3 Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz 8MB Cache LGA 1155 77W
CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER X6 RR-X6NN-19PR-R1 Universal Cooler
GPU: EVGA 04G-P4-3687-KR GeForce GTX 680 FTW+ w/Backplate 4GB 256-bit GDDR5
RAM: G.SKILL Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200)
SSD: SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD120BW 2.5" 120GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive
HDD: WD 2TB Black label
PSU: FSP AU-750M AURUM 750W Modular 80 PLUS Gold Certified
I think I'm pretty set on it, just wondering if more Tech Savy people had an opinion and a few changes, the site I am ordering from is Playtech.co.nz and yes the prices seem high but can't avoid high prices in NZ, None of the US Suppliers like new egg and amazon etc will ship here.
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@Darksleem:
If you can swing it, try and upgrade your SSD to a 256GB one. I've been running on a 120 GB one for the last 2 years and it gets annoying sometimes having to delete an old game to play a new one.
If not, no biggie, but that's the main thing I'd change, assuming you want to build it today.
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On March 28 2013 20:54 Darksleem wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Hey guys, I'm planning a new build, I think i have the parts sussed out, I live in New Zealand which limits the Availability of certain parts but I found a retailer who can pretty much do everything i need at a pretty reasonable price.
MoBo: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0
CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K Unlocked Gen3 Ivy Bridge 3.5GHz 8MB Cache LGA 1155 77W
CPU Cooler: COOLER MASTER X6 RR-X6NN-19PR-R1 Universal Cooler
GPU: EVGA 04G-P4-3687-KR GeForce GTX 680 FTW+ w/Backplate 4GB 256-bit GDDR5
RAM: G.SKILL Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200)
SSD: SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD120BW 2.5" 120GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive
HDD: WD 2TB Black label
PSU: FSP AU-750M AURUM 750W Modular 80 PLUS Gold Certified
I think I'm pretty set on it, just wondering if more Tech Savy people had an opinion and a few changes, the site I am ordering from is Playtech.co.nz and yes the prices seem high but can't avoid high prices in NZ, None of the US Suppliers like new egg and amazon etc will ship here.
There's the Gigabyte Z77X-D3H for a similar price. This is mostly personal preference, but could make a difference if you want to experiment with overclocking past 4.6 GHz (though there's maybe not enough choice for CPU air coolers for that task at your retailer).
You should perhaps look into some kind of benchmarks about the i7-3770k vs i5-3570k. It would save NZ$150 and could very well not mean a noticable difference for you and the programs and games you will want to use.
The PSU is overkill. The PC won't need more than 450 W. You could perhaps look at something fan-less from Seasonic if you want something expensive and quality.
I wouldn't get that CPU cooler. It seems to not be as good as it should be. I don't know why, but this always happens with every cooler that tries to use some kind of flashy technology. Google found a review where the boring in comparison Thermalright True Spirit 140 (your retailer only has the smaller 120) has to run its fan at 800 to 1000 RPM to beat the CM X6 running its fan at full speed.
Quote (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/coolermaster-x6-elite_5.html):
The best that the X6 Elite can do is beat the TRUE Spirit 140 when the former works at the maximum 1720 RPM and the latter, at 800 RPM. Working at 1400 RPM, the X6 Elite equals the TRUE Spirit 140 at 800 RPM. On the other hand, when both coolers work at the maximum speed of their fans, the difference is only 4°C, which is not too much. But at the minimum 800 RPM the X6 Elite couldn't cope with our six-core CPU overclocked to 4375 MHz and thus fell behind the TRUE Sprit 140 by more than 12°C.
Note that the fans are different size (the Coolermaster is 120 mm, the other one 140 mm), so it's not as bad as it looks, but the full RPM being needed to cool the CPU is still shitty. It will definitely be annoying regarding noise if it has to ramp up its speed under load, meanwhile on the True Spirit 140 you probably wouldn't ever be able to notice its fan over the graphics card.
You may be able to get the Thermalright HR-02 Macho at your retailer, or you can save money and choose the CM Hyper 212 Evo, which should be just as good as that flashy X6 (or perhaps actually better?).
You didn't mention your PC case. Make sure to check on the manufacturer's page if the CPU cooler's height will fit.
I agree with ensign_lee about the bigger SSD, considering you are not building something cheap from what you've listed. There's also "over-provisioning" suggested by Samsung, and that means you'd ideally keep 25 % of the SSD free by keeping the partitions from using all available space and turning the 250 GB into 187.5 GB. The speed of the Samsung 840 SSD also increases from the 120 to the 250 GB version.
EDIT: There's no point in choosing that RAM. You can instead get those Ripjaws 1866 MHz at 1.5 V for NZ$100 less at your retailer. You'll see no difference. The pricier 2400 MHz RAM is basically overclocked and running at 1.65 V, which you could try to do yourself.
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So i have my parts list.
The power usage estimator through pcpartpicker is giving me 360W.
My PSU is 400W.
I know people said 450W is plenty for a 1 GPU build. Am I cutting it too close with 400W in my build?
Estimated Wattage: 361W
Power Supply PC Power & Cooling 400W ATX12V
CPU Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155
Memory Corsair XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600
Storage Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB 2.5" SSD
Video Card Diamond Radeon HD 5830 1GB
Case Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (White) ATX Mid Tower
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No, 400W is a lot for that.
It's just not usually enough for two graphics cards, which would be the usual motivation for getting something on the level of a Z77X-UD3H (other than high-end overclocking, which wouldn't be possible with a Hyper 212 Plus anyway).
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On March 29 2013 05:00 Myrmidon wrote:
No, 400W is a lot for that.
It's just not usually enough for two graphics cards, which would be the usual motivation for getting something on the level of a Z77X-UD3H (other than high-end overclocking, which wouldn't be possible with a Hyper 212 Plus anyway).
What are the higher end coolers? I know of the noctua NH-D14 that's been mentioned many times, as well as the Hyper 212 plus / evo (whichever one is better).
There are also those packaged watercooling setups, but I am not sure which ones are truly worth something. I do like the compact heatsink profile though (I have one of the corsair ones in my current machine)
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HR-02 Macho is basically budget nh-d14, some closed loop coolers are ok if you have very limited space or something at lower price points, but high end closed loop would be the Swiftech H220 (which has like 15c on the nh-d14 i think and is far better than most closed loop liquid coolers)
There are others, like the True Spirit 140, but generally the 212 is a great cheap entry level cooler (£25) the hr-02 macho brings massive power at an affordable pricepoint and has a heatpipe design that means the fan does not stick out as much, etc but is still quite big - though that allows it to get it's cooling at lower noise levels (£37) and the NH-D14 is better than the macho, but not by a massive amount, among the king of air coolers around £65
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HR-02 Macho is the best in price-performance-noise ratio by far. Nothing comes anywhere near.
Apart from that you won't really gain much until NH-D14 -> it's a waste to get anything better.
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Yeah I would even argue that for silent fan speeds (7V) you are limited in the gains going from a 212+ to a D14. I know b/c I just made the change :p
At low vcores you can see a 6-8C diff, but as vcore gets high, silent fan setups see diminishing returns, high-end tower or not. Vcore, in the end is the far larger driver of temps. My 750 takes needs an additional almost 0.1v going from 3.95 to 4.07Ghz. Even with a D14, you can't expect air to handle 1.4+ vcore without sacrifices (e.g. setting fans to full speed, which means full noise too lmao.
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There are more very good coolers. The best seem to be those two tower designs. The very best is Phanteks PH-TC14PE but that one is quite pricey. Thermalright Silver Arrow SB-E is also a two tower cooler, somewhere between the Noctua and Phanteks regarding performance, and is a little cheaper than the Noctua, but Noctua is sending customers free mounting kits for new sockets, so that's pretty neat.
With all other big coolers, there's a high chance to find reviews showing something is off, so the CM Hyper 212 ends up being a solid choice most of the time. Even CM themselves seem to sell a lot of bigger coolers that are worse.
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Thanks everyone on the Input, yeah it is ganna be a Purely gaming Build so the i5 and Whatnot would be a welcome price drop.
And I forgot to mention the case, I'm planning on a NZXT Phantom 410 Mid, But Cannot Decide on the colour >.< That case should have enough Clearance for the CPU Fan?
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Yes, pretty much every side-blowing tower cooler with a 120mm fan will fit in any typical ATX-layout case with a 120mm fan (or larger) for the rear exhaust.
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The manual for the case says 170 mm height fits. That's enough for even the strangest cooler.
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Newegg has the Kraken x60 on sale for $100 atm.
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On March 29 2013 05:00 Myrmidon wrote:
No, 400W is a lot for that.
It's just not usually enough for two graphics cards, which would be the usual motivation for getting something on the level of a Z77X-UD3H (other than high-end overclocking, which wouldn't be possible with a Hyper 212 Plus anyway).
Great, I'm glad. Thanks, Mrym.
My reasoning for getting the GB Z77X-UD3H was this:
I got it for $95 + tax, opened box deal (CPU slot cover was missing).
I didn't feel comfortable with OCing to 4.5 GHz with MSI G41 ($40 + tax).
Perhaps it's a waste of $55, but it was as small of a price difference as I would ever get.
Plus, I want to play around with high-end overclocking in the near-future.
The hyper212+ is a budget one for now, and if I do get a better cooler, that's all I'd need to do higher OC. If not, it will take me to 4.5 GHz, which is a good amount of OC for me.
I'd utilize the hyper 212+ for my mom's computer build.
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whats a solid video card for 150$ or less
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7770, 650ti boost edition if it's released
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Even 7850 is at 150$ I think ? 7770 is more a 100-110$ GPU (or perhaps it's only in Europe)
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