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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On March 29 2013 15:52 nosliw wrote: Quick Question: Does picking graphics card depend on your monitor resolution the most? Does it depend on CPU? Depends the most on what you're using the computer for (what applications, how they are used), with monitor resolution and then CPU being some other important considerations. Actually, this is a pretty generic question so there's not really a good answer that's actionable. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Myrmidon
United States9452 Posts
On March 29 2013 15:59 Chairman Ray wrote: I ran into really good PSU buying guide today, just wanted to share it for those interested: http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx Never seen that before, thanks. There are a lot of big problems though. A lot of the picks are really outdated and seem like they were never moved down a tier over the years, others just don't make sense, and there are a lot of missing options. e.g. Why are some Ultra X3 in 1? Why is Kingwin Lazer Gold in 2b (even though the equivalent Rosewill Capstone, Sentey Golden Steel Power are in 2)? omgwtf is Be Quiet Dark Power Pro doing in 3 and not in 1 or 2? Why are any Antec Earthwatts in 3? Why's Lepa G900 in 3 and not with its Enermax Modu87+ brethren in 2? There are plenty of other examples. | ||
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waffling1
599 Posts
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llIH
Norway2147 Posts
Is the laptop equivalent the i5 3210M? What laptop cpu would be a good recommendation for sc2? I asked several times but no one answered because many people posted at the same time as me.  | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
On March 29 2013 18:09 llIH wrote: For sc2 on desktop people here have said that the i5 3570K would be the most suited cpu. (I am not asking if this is true or not. That is beside my question) Is the laptop equivalent the i5 3210M? What laptop cpu would be a good recommendation for sc2? I asked several times but no one answered because many people posted at the same time as me. There is no mobile equivalent to a core i5 3570k. All desktop core i5s are quads with hyperthreading disabled. All mobile core i5s are dual cores with hyperthreading. Even disregarding core count, the 3210m is significantly slower than a 3570k. It is a low-end mobile i5 after all so it would compare to a low-end desktop i5 like the core i5 3330 (still slower if you are wondering). It'll probably be fine for you but if you're looking for performance similar to the 3570k, be prepared to spend $1500+ for a i7 3720QM or i5 3520M (still slower if you're wondering...) | ||
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llIH
Norway2147 Posts
On March 29 2013 18:28 skyR wrote: There is no mobile equivalent to a core i5 3570k. All desktop core i5s are quads with hyperthreading disabled. All mobile core i5s are dual cores with hyperthreading. Even disregarding core count, the 3210m is significantly slower than a 3570k. It is a low-end mobile i5 after all so it would compare to a low-end desktop i5 like the core i5 3330 (still slower if you are wondering). It'll probably be fine for you but if you're looking for performance similar to the 3570k, be prepared to spend $1500+ for a i7 3720QM or i5 3520M (still slower if you're wondering...) Thanks for replying to me Do you have a good suggestion for playing sc2 on low settings for laptop? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20333 Posts
There's no laptop equivalent (pretty much as long as you keep throwing money at cpu, you will get better performance - unlike the desktop where there is no better performance for many tasks including sc2 once you have a 3570k) Mobile i5's are dual core AND slower than mobile i7's - so by going to i7 on desktop you gain nothing in some cases - going to i7 on laptop, you can go from dual core to quad (if you get a qm or xm model) and you can also get better clock speeds, which will help performance. Perhaps the i7 3840qm or 3940xm depending on how you look at it. While spending more money on CPU will increase performance on a laptop system (unlike desktop), pretty much any ivy bridge i5/i7 will serve you well Ninja'd by SkyR Do you have a good suggestion for playing sc2 on low settings for laptop? Good ivy bridge CPU, dont sacrifice too much to go from dual core to quad but it's actually unclear how much going from 2 to 4 cores would help in sc2, there's a performance gain from the third core but im not sure how significant. Pretty much any "ok" dedicated graphics will run low settings fine. If you want to use a really rough guide, my gpu (216 core gtx260) passmarks something like 1.2k but is fine for >400fps early game on min settings (which requires a great cpu - it's still not gpu capped) or ~160fps, 1920x1080 max settings (100% gpu load) and in lategame battles, FPS is the same on min settings vs max (as long as physics and effects settings are not changed - do not treat them like graphics settings) so you dont need a lot of graphical power to run the game well, just CPU - You can expect minimum fps in worst case 1v1 in like the low 20's or so just from having a mobile CPU, so it's important to make sure that's the low 20's and not 10 because you got an amd apu or something | ||
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llIH
Norway2147 Posts
My situation is between desktop vs laptop with a budget based on my dad's taste. (Not specific. Just "cheap") Perhaps a desktop would be a better choice. I would never use the laptop unplugged. But It is nice to have it on your lap in the living room some times. But then again i wouldnt be able to play sc2 on the couch anyways and could just resort to my ipad instead. Perhaps desktop is a beter choice. What do you recommend from what I just said? I can't make up my mind. But I need a computer. | ||
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llIH
Norway2147 Posts
On March 29 2013 18:28 skyR wrote: There is no mobile equivalent to a core i5 3570k. All desktop core i5s are quads with hyperthreading disabled. All mobile core i5s are dual cores with hyperthreading. Even disregarding core count, the 3210m is significantly slower than a 3570k. It is a low-end mobile i5 after all so it would compare to a low-end desktop i5 like the core i5 3330 (still slower if you are wondering). It'll probably be fine for you but if you're looking for performance similar to the 3570k, be prepared to spend $1500+ for a i7 3720QM or i5 3520M (still slower if you're wondering...) Thanks for replying to me Do you have a good suggestion for playing sc2 on low settings for laptop? | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20333 Posts
On March 29 2013 18:52 llIH wrote: Thank you again for great response. Appreciate it really much. My situation is between desktop vs laptop with a budget based on my dad's taste. (Not specific. Just "cheap") Perhaps a desktop would be a better choice. I would never use the laptop unplugged. But It is nice to have it on your lap in the living room some times. But then again i wouldnt be able to play sc2 on the couch anyways and could just resort to my ipad instead. Perhaps desktop is a beter choice. What do you recommend from what I just said? I can't make up my mind. But I need a computer. If you can go to like $800 budget and are willing to overclock, you can make a really awesome sc2 build (3570k @4.4-4.8ghz, 7770, ssd) and thats probably the best choice, if no overclock the gap between laptop and desktop performance is not nearly as wide but it's still massive | ||
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llIH
Norway2147 Posts
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Shifty_Powers
United States1 Post
I currently have a Dell XPS 630i: Processor- Core 2 Quad Q6600 Not completely sure of my mainboard (LGA 775 socket) RAM- PC2-6400 3gb total (2 x 1gb and 2 x 512mb ) GPU- 2 x Radeon HD 2600 XT The PSU I am keeping is the stock one that came with the XPS, I have had no problems with it. What I want to go with: Processor- i5-3570K Motherboard- MSI Z77A-GD55- http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Computer-Corp-Motherboards-Z77A-GD55/dp/B007QWI9YO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1364580842&sr=8-1&keywords=msi z77a-gd55 I was leaning towards this board because it leaves the option to crossfire/sli open, but if I could get a decent board for cheaper I would go for it. GPU- no idea, I need some help here. RAM- i was looking at G.Skill ripjaws 8gb (4 x 2gb) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231325 I also wanted to get a SDD to run my OS and games. I was looking between 120gb or 256gb. I haven't decided on a brand. What is your budget? $900-$1,200 USD What is your resolution? 1920 x 1080 What are you using it for? Mostly gaming. Mainly SC2, and the occasional FPS. What is your upgrade cycle? 3-5 year range (I've had my current configuration for about 5 years) When do you plan on building it? Within the next month Do you plan on overclocking? Yes Do you need an Operating System? Yes, I am going to be purchasing windows 7 64-bit Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire? I am considering it, but I am leaning towards no. Where are you buying your parts from? Amazon & Newegg Thanks! | ||
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Westerhound
Finland69 Posts
i5 2500K GTX 560 Ti 8GB RAM 1920x1080 monitor (2 monitors) Price isnt really an issue but Id still like to be somewhat price efficient (otherwise Id just go with 2x GTX 690 SLi). Current motherboard (AsRock Pro3 P67) is pretty shitty and doesnt support SLi but Im willing to upgrade that as well if needed. | ||
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skyR
Canada13817 Posts
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Darksleem
New Zealand6 Posts
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Craton
United States17287 Posts
On March 29 2013 15:10 Cyro wrote: 7770, 650ti boost edition if it's released Supposedly the 7790 should be out soon also and I believe it's better than both and ~$150. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On March 30 2013 06:49 Darksleem wrote: @MisterFred I had a question about the build you suggested for me, You state for the 7970 card but link to the 7950, is there much different in the cards? I don't really know that much about ATI Cards. Also was curious about how much difference buying the Sapphire version of the card as opposed to the gigabyte version makes? Whoops, sure enough I did. The 7970 is currently AMD's top card, the 7950 being not too far behind, ~$NZ 500 and $NZ 630 with that retailer I think. Performance varies by game, but in general the 7970 & 7950 are roughly equivalent to the GTX 680 and 670. Some prefer the AMD cards because they are more overclocking-friendly. I tend to recommend them over the Nvidia because they're usually cheaper at about the same performance level. A 7950 should be enough to play most games at fully maxxed settings on a 1920x1080 resolution monitor. But I think you'd been considering the 680, so I just decided to link a 7970... and then messed it up. The Sapphire and Gigabyte versions of the cards are both fairly well regarded, the only real difference being the cooler they slap on them. Neither is a problem, both perform well. The Sapphire miiight be a tad quieter? Basically no difference. Sapphire sponsors EG, Dreamhack, and some important European team I'm forgetting. Gigabyte has sponsored a couple mid-level tournaments & small weekly tournaments. | ||
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Craton
United States17287 Posts
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