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On September 14 2012 07:56 Wartortle wrote:Show nested quote +On September 13 2012 23:31 JingleHell wrote:On September 13 2012 23:23 Rollin wrote:On September 13 2012 23:20 Wartortle wrote:
Ive been mucking around with overclocking my HIS iceq x 7870 turbo, and ive ended up putting the clocks at 1400/1450. I havent touched the voltage i just used catalyst. Is this safe? Every guide for OCing this card had way lower settings. Its running at 34 degress at room temp and 55 at load. I havent seen any problems yet in any games. Should I leave it this way? Is there any risk? Short answer, no. Longer answer, not really, but it does depend on chip. As long as you don't touch voltage, there really is an insignificant risk of it failing somewhat faster, but nothing is to say it wouldn't have failed at stock in the same manner. If you can get those clocks at stock voltage and those temperatures, just be happy you got a very very nice card. If you see any artifacts, don't hesitate to knock the clocks back a little though. To expand, I'd suggest running some form of real stress test for stability and temps, just for peace of mind. Sure, stressing is frequently above and beyond gaming loads, but that's the point. Make sure it's not going to have problems if and when you buy a different game. Ok this is great advice, It would definitely take away any worry I have. Can anyone suggest a good stress testing program that is free and noob friendly? aka something I wont destroy my computer with. If there are no free ones, something cheap please.
http://www.ozone3d.net/benchmarks/fur/
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ok cool thanks, which is the best option to run to test a graphcis card on without destroying it if its overclocked too hard?
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On September 14 2012 09:21 Wartortle wrote:
ok cool thanks, which is the best option to run to test a graphcis card on without destroying it if its overclocked too hard?
The computer will turn off before it destroys your gpu. You want to run it for a pretty long continuous time (5 hours at least) with no restarts before you can say you have a stable oc.
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On September 14 2012 09:30 Infernal_dream wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2012 09:21 Wartortle wrote:
ok cool thanks, which is the best option to run to test a graphcis card on without destroying it if its overclocked too hard? The computer will turn off before it destroys your gpu. You want to run it for a pretty long continuous time (5 hours at least) with no restarts before you can say you have a stable oc.
ok thanks thats good to know, which stress test is the best option though?
- burn in test?
- burn in benchmark 1920x1080?
- benchmark user settings?
- benchmark presets 1080?
thanks for the help guys, just a bit of a scary area. fun though.
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On September 14 2012 09:57 Wartortle wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2012 09:30 Infernal_dream wrote:On September 14 2012 09:21 Wartortle wrote:
ok cool thanks, which is the best option to run to test a graphcis card on without destroying it if its overclocked too hard? The computer will turn off before it destroys your gpu. You want to run it for a pretty long continuous time (5 hours at least) with no restarts before you can say you have a stable oc. ok thanks thats good to know, which stress test is the best option though? - burn in test? - burn in benchmark 1920x1080? - benchmark user settings? - benchmark presets 1080? thanks for the help guys, just a bit of a scary area. fun though.
Just run a 1080p fullscreen benchmark run, with HWmonitor running. Start with about a 10 minute run, then cancel with escape and see what HWmonitor reports your max temp on the GPU. If it's below ~85C, then run a longer test to see if it's stable.
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ok perfect advice, thanks very much.
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On September 14 2012 12:05 Wartortle wrote:
ok perfect advice, thanks very much.
Note, if temps blast up above 85C during that test, odds are it'll start freaking out, and/or your drivers will crash. And "freaking out" may not sound terribly techie, but if it does it, you'll understand and do the same, so it'll suddenly make sense.
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haha well said, i guess that would be a good point to press esc also. Ill see how it goes then 
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Computer build time:
What is your budget?
$1000 CAD, including taxes and shipping. If I could spend less without losing too much graphics power, that would be nice too.
What is your resolution?
1920 x 1080
What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming, with some light Photoshop, AutoCAD, and MATLAB work. Nothing too high-end gaming-wise - TF2, L4D2, Civ 5, SC2, Skyrim, Deus Ex, ME 2/3, Diablo 3
What is your upgrade cycle?
2-3 years
When do you plan on building it?
ASAP - going to put in an order this week, before Thursday
Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes.
Do you need an OS?
No.
Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
Possibly? Depends on how future upgrade options work out.
Where are you buying your parts from?
Mostly from ncix.com, picking up a couple of parts from local Canada Computers b/c of clearance prices.
Already Purchased:
SSD:
Plextor M3 Series 128GB 2.5" SATA3 6GB/s Solid State Drive $112.98 (Taxes included)
Local Canada Computers
Build:
Processor/Motherboard:
NCIX Gaming Bundle Deal Intel Core i5 3570K Unlocked CPU & MSI Z77A-G45 DDR3 SLI Motherboard $339.99 (-$20 MIR)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=71291&promoid=1267
Graphics Card:
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 OC 975MHZ 2GB 4.8GHZ GDDR5 Video Card $199.99 (-$20 MIR)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=69494&promoid=1267
HDD:
Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000.C 500GB 7200RPM 16MB Cache SATA2 Hard Drive $49.99
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57878&promoid=1267
PSU:
Corsair Builder Series CMPSU-600CXV2 PSU $54.99 (-$15 MIR)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60330&promoid=1267
Case:
Bitfenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case Black $59.99
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60584&promoid=1360
RAM:
Kingston KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX 8GB Kit 2X4GB 1600MHz DDR3 RAM $34.99
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=70136&promoid=1267
Cooler:
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo $29.99
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=64385&promoid=1219
Optical drive:
Samsung SH-222BB 22X DVD Writer SATA Black $17.99
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=65984&promoid=1267
SHIPPING AND HANDLING: $27.08
SHIPPING INSURANCE: $11.82
SUBTOTAL: $826.82
+13% HST: $107.50
TOTAL: $934.42 (+$112.98)
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FYI the Kingston RAM is rated at 1.65V (which would be overvolting relative to 1.5V nominal for using with modern memory controllers).
XFX Core 550W is the same price, definitely better than CX V2:
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&promoid=1267
450W is $5 cheaper, but the 550W version gets you more cables I guess (including another PCIe power connector in case you want to upgrade the graphics card to something that needs two in the future).
Aside from that, there's nothing much else to say. You can save $10 by getting the Z77A-G43, which I think has more restrictive CPU voltage settings. You can also get a cheaper 7850, but I wouldn't buy the Visiontek either.
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On September 14 2012 12:52 Myrmidon wrote:FYI the Kingston RAM is rated at 1.65V (which would be overvolting relative to 1.5V nominal for using with modern memory controllers). XFX Core 550W is the same price, definitely better than CX V2: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=59615&promoid=1267450W is $5 cheaper, but the 550W version gets you more cables I guess (including another PCIe power connector in case you want to upgrade the graphics card to something that needs two in the future). Aside from that, there's nothing much else to say. You can save $10 by getting the Z77A-G43, which I think has more restrictive CPU voltage settings. You can also get a cheaper 7850, but I wouldn't buy the Visiontek either.
Sounds good, I guess I'll stick with the Z77-G45, and go for the XFX 550W power supply, and 2 extra dollars for these G.SKILLS (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57953&vpn=F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL&manufacture=G%2ESkill&promoid=1267) if it will ensure longevity/better overclocking results. Thanks for the help!
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I'm planning on doing a build inside of an N64.
I've read a guide from someone who did a build, but he used an atom-based board which I don't want to do. This will be for an actual light gaming machine (plan on using an APU).
I'm having trouble finding a power supply that would fit inside of the N64 with the ram/cpu/mobo in there. I don't have the exact measurements yet because the N64 didn't come (which I will hollow out and measure).
I plan on using a small SSD (64GB or 128 if I can get a good deal). I don't particularly want to have a CD drive so that's a non issue. I'm going to use a USB hub to make the 4 controller ports into USB ports. It'll be cool as fuck, if I can manage to get a PSU that will fit inside. Even a 150w would be fine (though I'd prefer a 200w). I've looked into it but haven't found anything very small.
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On September 15 2012 05:00 Nabutso wrote:
I'm planning on doing a build inside of an N64.
I've read a guide from someone who did a build, but he used an atom-based board which I don't want to do. This will be for an actual light gaming machine (plan on using an APU).
I'm having trouble finding a power supply that would fit inside of the N64 with the ram/cpu/mobo in there. I don't have the exact measurements yet because the N64 didn't come (which I will hollow out and measure).
I plan on using a small SSD (64GB or 128 if I can get a good deal). I don't particularly want to have a CD drive so that's a non issue. I'm going to use a USB hub to make the 4 controller ports into USB ports. It'll be cool as fuck, if I can manage to get a PSU that will fit inside. Even a 150w would be fine (though I'd prefer a 200w). I've looked into it but haven't found anything very small.
Use an external PSU, as what your stating a 80-100w would be more than enough.
Edit: Depending on which APU you use.
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On September 15 2012 05:06 iTzSnypah wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2012 05:00 Nabutso wrote:
I'm planning on doing a build inside of an N64.
I've read a guide from someone who did a build, but he used an atom-based board which I don't want to do. This will be for an actual light gaming machine (plan on using an APU).
I'm having trouble finding a power supply that would fit inside of the N64 with the ram/cpu/mobo in there. I don't have the exact measurements yet because the N64 didn't come (which I will hollow out and measure).
I plan on using a small SSD (64GB or 128 if I can get a good deal). I don't particularly want to have a CD drive so that's a non issue. I'm going to use a USB hub to make the 4 controller ports into USB ports. It'll be cool as fuck, if I can manage to get a PSU that will fit inside. Even a 150w would be fine (though I'd prefer a 200w). I've looked into it but haven't found anything very small. Use an external PSU, as what your stating a 80-100w would be more than enough. Edit: Depending on which APU you use.
Going for the 65w dual core. Also, I can't find ANYTHING about external PSUs.. literally nothing.
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You can use an external AC/DC power brick and PicoPSU inside the build. Those things plug into the motherboard 20/24-pin ATX connector and just do 12V -> 5V and 12V -> 3.3V conversion. Actually, some models—the "wide input" ones—have to do DC-DC to 12V as well, since they're intended for use with AC/DC sources not directly outputting 12V.
edit: here
http://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-120-102W-power-kit
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I see molex and sata, but wheres the CPU power?
edit: nevermind, I scrolled down.
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I forgot to say thank you. Much appreciated, thank you very much guys!
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Hello,
I'm re-building my computer and I have a couple of questions. I want to be able to stream at 1920 x 1080 resolution starcraft II at medium settings, assuming I have a good enough video card/ram/internet etc, I need to know what processor I will need to not have any FPS issues streaming large fights etc at that res/quality.
Will I be able to go with one of the i5's or will I have to go with an i7? Is there any AMD processor that is competitive in price that can accomplish what I need?
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