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Nabutso
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Nizzy
United States839 Posts
I really appreciate everyone's time and comments. Thanks: http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/saved/1ECUJL ------ *BASE_PRICE:[+745] CAS:Cooler Master Elite 431 Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Side-Panel Window [-8] CASE UPGRADE:12in Cold Cathode Neon Light [+10] (Blue Color) CD:Sony 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive [+4] (BLACK COLOR) COOLANT:Standard Coolant CPU:Intel® Core™ i7-3770K 3.50 GHz 8MB Intel Smart Cache LGA1155 (All Venom OC Certified) [+114] CS_FAN:Maximum 120MM Color Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+15] (Blue Color) FAN:Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (Single Standard 120MM Fan) FLASHMEDIA:INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR) FREEBIE_VC1:[Back-To-School Gameon Sale!] on all EVGA GeForce Video Cards [-50] HDD:120 GB Intel 520 Series SATA-III 6.0Gb/s - 550 MB/s Read & 520 MB/s Write [+46] (Single Drive) KEYBOARD  Keyboard & Mouse Combo) Razer Cyclosa Gaming Keyboard & Abyssus Gaming Mouse [+0]MEMORY:16GB (4GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory [+83] (Kingston HyperX [+0]) MOTHERBOARD  [CrossFireX/SLI] ASUS P8Z77-V LK Intel Z77 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ IRST, Lucid Virtu MVP, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, 3x PCIe x16 (2 Gen3, 1 Gen2), 2 PCie x1 & 2 PCI (Extreme OC Certified) [+19]NETWORK:Onboard Gigabit LAN Network OS:None - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY *(I have 64bit key) OVERCLOCK:No Overclocking POWERSUPPLY:700 Watts - Standard Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready [+8] RUSH:NO; READY TO SHIP IN 10~15 BUSINESS DAYS SERVICE:STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT SOUND:HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO VIDEO:NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+385] (EVGA FTW Edition [+10]) _PRICE +1381)Didn't want to go over 1500. Around 1450 with shipping. I think I should get 5 years out of this. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
On August 08 2012 10:10 Soulstice wrote: If i can get a core i5 sandy bridge 2500k for 200 flat, or a core i5 ivy bridge 3570k for 220 flat, which is the better decision? I mainly use my pc for games, and i do intend to overclock. Is a highly Oc'd 2500k sandy better than a slightly oc'd 3570k ivy bridge? This bottles* my mind, because i would assumethe ivy bridge is superior but after reading some things im not quite sure. Ivy Bridge is just a die shrink of Sandy bridge so the performance is really close but the power consumption of ivy bridge is a lot lower. With the same air cooling solution you can keep the Ivy Bridge in front of the Sandy bridge no problemo. The Sandy Bridge only pulls out in front when you start entering phase change water cooling (very expensive) into the equation so in the end the Ivy bridge for 220 is probably the better buy for you. Ivy Bridge also opens up other perks that you can maybe make use of down the road. So its worth the money. On August 08 2012 10:10 Nabutso wrote: If he was streaming SC2 I would tell him he wouldn't be able to do it with his budget. He mostly streams older games and some emulated stuff, so I figured an AMD would be fine, he really does need moar cores in this case. I guess I'll restock it. What a bummer. Yeah I do the same thing. You are making the right choice IMHO. | ||
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Soulstice
United States288 Posts
On August 08 2012 10:13 Medrea wrote: Ivy Bridge is just a die shrink of Sandy bridge so the performance is really close but the power consumption of ivy bridge is a lot lower. With the same air cooling solution you can keep the Ivy Bridge in front of the Sandy bridge no problemo. The Sandy Bridge only pulls out in front when you start entering phase change water cooling (very expensive) into the equation so in the end the Ivy bridge for 220 is probably the better buy for you. Ivy Bridge also opens up other perks that you can maybe make use of down the road. So its worth the money. Yeah I do the same thing. You are making the right choice IMHO. Thanks broham! | ||
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Nizzy
United States839 Posts
holy shit. randomly googled: 'cyberpowerpc promo' and found a 5% off for spring sale. such a better deal -70% off. unreal. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On August 08 2012 10:10 Soulstice wrote: If i can get a core i5 sandy bridge 2500k for 200 flat, or a core i5 ivy bridge 3570k for 220 flat, which is the better decision? I mainly use my pc for games, and i do intend to overclock. Is a highly Oc'd 2500k sandy better than a slightly oc'd 3570k ivy bridge? This bottles* my mind, because i would assumethe ivy bridge is superior but after reading some things im not quite sure. Ivy bridge is better than sandy bridge clock-for-clock, by about 5% or so. Except for the Total War series of games, where Ivy Bridge is bizarrely FAR better. It's easier to clock ivy bridge to a 'moderate' overclock, 4.4 ghz or so, but it's (relatively) easier to overclock sandy bridge to a higher overclock, say around 5.0ghz. So for overclocking enthusiasts, an argument can be made for the i5-2500k being superior. For everyone else, ivy bridge. Edit: Too late. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
On August 08 2012 10:48 Nizzy wrote: http://i46.tinypic.com/2pys6qd.png holy shit. randomly googled: 'cyberpowerpc promo' and found a 5% off for spring sale. such a better deal -70% off. unreal. It's still a premade. It's thus still not a great deal. Not the worst ever, but you can do better if you're willing to build yourself. If you decide you could go that route and want a parts list, fill out the questionnaire in the OP and be as specific as possible, especially regarding the purposes you want to use the computer for. You'll probably get a build that performs about the same but is cheaper. Also, if you do buy premade, never get a 'standard' power supply. Get a corsair tx650 or whatever is their lowest price non-crap psu. | ||
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Nizzy
United States839 Posts
Thanks for the information. I actually prefer pre-made. I don't have enough experience building a computer + factored in with things like the time it would take ordering parts one by one, waiting for them to come in at different times. It just seems like more of a hassel (just for me) that enjoyment. I realize some people love to do that though. I got a 400$ vid card, 332$ proc, 100$ 16gb 1600 ddr hyperx ram, 100$ 120gb 520 intel ssd = 932 retail just from googling the prices. + Asus Mobo = 144 1076. It was like 1311 with the discount before shipping. So for what, 235, I also get coolermaster case, a liquid cooling heatsink, extra fans, neon lights for fun, someone more experienced making my computer, internal card reader, (got free keyboard/mouse razr brand) You're completely right, could have probably saved 100 bucks. For my current situation (I still work a lot) I don't mind this overall price. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
You could have saved way more than 100 bucks because what you googled for above is full retail for parts you dont really need anyway. Children around the age of 5 can and have assembled computers. And finally. This is a Computer BUILD thread. Not a Computer BUILT thread. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
All for paying a pile more to save a couple hours building it, and the time it takes to get a shipment from newegg is actually generally shorter than the time it takes to get a PC sent from a boutique. | ||
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MisterFred
United States2033 Posts
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Leeto
United States1320 Posts
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iTzSnypah
United States1738 Posts
So you spend less money for higher quality components and get the satisfaction of building your own computer. Pre-builts are like Apple Computers, over-priced novelties. EDIT: I did a QUICK search though newegg and the exact same computer you could build for $1200 (minus the extra fans). Then you could optimize the build by getting rid of the 16gb of junk ram for 8gb of good ram, a high efficency PSU, a good looking case, a cheaper motherboard (as your not going for world record oc's), and a quality air cpu cooler and you would save an EXTRA $100 right there. So for $1100 you can have a better computer... | ||
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Rollin
Australia1552 Posts
On August 08 2012 11:40 MisterFred wrote: *shrug* Computer will run fine if you want to pay a few hundred extra. Have fun. And remember my PSU warning. Second this. Do not get an unbranded PSU, ever. They generally have terrible voltage and ripple regulation, and also certain terrible powersupplies like frying computer components and/or doing silly things like catch on fire. Sure, it doesn't always happen, but if you aren't a gambling man, a decent ~500W powersupply is a much better investment than a potential timebomb of a PSU. Also, electricity bills are cheaper with an efficient PSU  . Remember, wattage means zilchies, preferably give us a list of powersupplies you can choose from. | ||
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Nabutso
351 Posts
On August 08 2012 10:01 Medrea wrote: I would return the motherboard, eat the restocking fee, and get a new compatible one. I dont really like AMD for streaming even on a budget but I hear what you are saying. I tend to think that while it streams well it doesnt run SC2 well so the stream doesnt look right anyway. What i would not do is drop down to a lower CPU. Your already kind of dropping down on it. I wouldnt do anything on craigslist without half expecting surprise butt sex. I'd like to follow up on this. I ended up underclocking and undervolting to 3 ghz and 1.2v. It's been running stable for a little under an hour now, 1.175v had an error during prime95 so I bumped it up a bit. According to some online wattage calculator, the CPU itself should be hovering around 86w, meaning it should be safe for my 95 max TDP motherboard. Thoughts? | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
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Nizzy
United States839 Posts
On August 08 2012 11:32 Medrea wrote: You buy from a distributor like Newegg and you get all the components at the same time. You could have saved way more than 100 bucks because what you googled for above is full retail for parts you dont really need anyway. Children around the age of 5 can and have assembled computers. And finally. This is a Computer BUILD thread. Not a Computer BUILT thread. Whoa. Once again thanks for your time and comments I really do appreciate them. However if I knew anyone would get this worked up, I wouldn't have bugged anyone here. I've built a bunch of 32 bit comps over a summer of work, it was easy, however I didn't enjoy it that much. Like I said, I know some people love that enjoyment of building their own. To me, that's simply overrated and I just don't care. Been working 50-60 a week since I graduated, I just want to plug it in when it comes, install my O/S, and game dude. My post fits the title of this thread. I'm posting items that I want to select for my "build". I have not bought it yet, so if I didn't include where I was getting it from, it could be from anywhere. But wow man sorry if I got you upset. On August 08 2012 11:33 JingleHell wrote: You also get terrible customer service, the liquid cooler is some combination of crap and overpriced, the card reader is fairly meh, just thrown in to sound cool, extra fans don't always mean better cooling. All for paying a pile more to save a couple hours building it, and the time it takes to get a shipment from newegg is actually generally shorter than the time it takes to get a PC sent from a boutique. I've bought another PC from ibuypower.com like 6 years ago and it's at my moms house now still running well, went there first before cyberpowerpc this time but cp giving way better price. I got great customer service from ibp, and it looks like cyberpower is very fair with their customer service. I've actually heard bad things about new egg. I guess everyone's had bad situations. Liquid Cooler was free, I don't know that much about CPU coolers anyways, just didn't want to go with a basic fan with some brand name attached to it. It's still a fan that will break down eventually. I'm not saying the cooler won't but a review said it was very quiet. As far as the internal card reader, that's just something stupid for sc card read for pics from GF's camera. Agreed, could care less. Yeah newegg is faster shipping but I don't want to spend time to build it On August 08 2012 12:07 iTzSnypah wrote: Save only $100 by building yourself? More like $250.. So you spend less money for higher quality components and get the satisfaction of building your own computer. Pre-builts are like Apple Computers, over-priced novelties. EDIT: I did a QUICK search though newegg and the exact same computer you could build for $1200 (minus the extra fans). Then you could optimize the build by getting rid of the 16gb of junk ram for 8gb of good ram, a high efficency PSU, a good looking case, a cheaper motherboard (as your not going for world record oc's), and a quality air cpu cooler and you would save an EXTRA $100 right there. So for $1100 you can have a better computer... 1. I don't want the satisfaction of building my own. I want someone who builds them all day to build it. As far as quality of parts? -Top of the line i7 3rd gen proc -GTX 670 EVGA FTW 2GB -16gb Hyperx ram (maybe hyperx is junk, but oh well went with free upgrade) How would these parts be any different if I ordered them from newegg? "exact same computer you could build for $1200" Cool, that's actually amazing, I appreciate you looking into it for me. The build I put together was 1311 for everything. I would gladly pay someone 100 to build it for me than do it myself. Just don't want to risk screwing something up. If they do its under warranty. If I do it, I'm out of luck. ------ I'm going to go with a different PSU. Thanks everyone for helping me decide on the CPU, VID Card, & PSU. Sorry if you got upset about me ordering instead of building it. I've done that in my teen years. I'm older now/over it. And if you guys haven't realized yet there's a lot of post of kids just talking about options from ibuypower/cyberpowerpc in here. I really don't see why it's a big deal. I fully understand the satisfaction of building your own. I actually have done it when I was younger. However there's also a satisfaction from working way to much and wanting to finally buy something for yourself. I simply don't want to build it on my own. However, I have taken time to research certain parts. I feel like I got a good deal for a finished product from a long time company. I remember seeing them in gamer magazines from when I was in HS 10 years ago. Plus with these companies like Ibuypower sponoring SC2 things like NASL, I don't mind the extra 100 to help the scene of the game I enjoy the most. take it easy | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
I'm older than you. I dont appreciate the insinuation that people who build their own computers are kids. Saving money is forever. In fact a lot of us are, and have kids and all that. Money is tight these days and we have responsibilities. At least you understand the deal with the PSU. You attracted a lot of attention to yourself because you linked a very mediocre deal and called it unreal. EDIT: Better warranties is a pro of building your own computer. Not sure why you listed it as a pro for prebuilt. | ||
Womwomwom
5930 Posts
A prebuilt desktop should offer any number of these things: - Centralised and prompt hardware/software support. - Good quality warranty. - Specific hardware engineering. Essentially peace of mind is the main reason you buy a prebuilt system. In the case of Apple, HP/Dell workstation systems, and perhaps Puget Systems, there is some engineering put into the system that you'd be hard pressed to find elsewhere. The problem with IBP is that I'm not sure that their service is that much faster and better than, say, EVGA or Corsair and they definitely don't put any unique engineering into their systems. I can't say for sure, since I barely know who they are, so throwing stones from Australia is kind of showing my ignorance. | ||
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Medrea
10003 Posts
Im assuming the PSU is generic and needs to be replaced immediately. | ||
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