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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 08 2012 20:08 GMT
#23881
His argument, and many others, is that even if the computer blows up he isnt on the hook for it.

Where this usually goes wrong is that its extremely aggravating having to deal with a computer being in the shop all the time meanwhile its not like they give you your money back for awhile.

I was actually less against the prebuilt before they offered him the upgrade to 850W. The offer is like, a blaring alarm lol.
twitch.tv/medrea
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 20:13:37
August 08 2012 20:08 GMT
#23882
On August 09 2012 04:04 Nizzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 00:43 JingleHell wrote:
500w is already overkill if it's a good unit.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/598

Barely over 300w from the wall. For the whole system under fairly heavy loads. Of course, Cyberpower doesn't give you good unless you pay extra and know enough to know when an upgrade isn't an upgrade, like my friend who got a GTX 465 instead of a 460, as a "free upgrade".

They told him it was out of stock, when he got the thing and said something, I told him it was a huge downgrade, showed him benches, and they somehow had the right card on the way the same day. So much for out of stock...


Jingle,

Hey I really appreciate the link. Is that factoring in only the video card using 300w? Or the whole system at that time? Here's an email for the customer service.

'After I review your order, I found the 700 watts power supply selected is
not going to be enough for the setup you selected. I already free upgraded
the power supply to 850 watts power supply for this order. Please reply
this email to let me know which power supply you would like to change to?'

o.o

Someone telling me 500w is overkill, someone else telling me I need 850w. -_-aaaaaa


So believe people who build systems all the time and aren't trying to get you to pay more money to them. Or believe the people who will make money if you believe you need higher wattage.

Let me break it down for you.
850 Watts - Standard Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready [+41] = BAD DO NOT DO THIS IT IS A CRAPPY POWER SUPPLY MORE LIKELY TO FAIL THAN A GOOD ONE. STUPID, NO, SOMETHING ELSE, CHANGE THE OPTION.

500 Watts - Corsair CX500 V2 80 Plus Certified Power Supply [+24] = MUCH BETTER, HIGHER QUALITY, WON'T CRAP OUT ON YOU, PLENTY OF WATTAGE BECAUSE IT'S NOT LYING ABOUT WHAT IT CAN DO.

Clear enough? Asking again and again is not going to get you a different answer. The above is the truth, and it is up to you to believe it or not.

P.S. This is another reason it's better to build yourself. The cyberpowerPC is much more likely to break down after a couple of years if you take their advice, whereas the one you build yourself will actually keep working.

Of course you could go somwhere like falcon northwest and have them build you a computer. You'll pay $600-$800 more than building yourself instead of $300 or so more, but at least you'll know you're getting quality & good support.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
August 08 2012 20:14 GMT
#23883
On August 09 2012 05:08 Medrea wrote:
His argument, and many others, is that even if the computer blows up he isnt on the hook for it.

Where this usually goes wrong is that its extremely aggravating having to deal with a computer being in the shop all the time meanwhile its not like they give you your money back for awhile.

I was actually less against the prebuilt before they offered him the upgrade to 850W. The offer is like, a blaring alarm lol.


I think a lot of people don't realize that when they build on their own the parts they buy are in fact under warranty.

On the other hand, some people genuinely would have no idea which part isn't working in the rare case something goes wrong.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 08 2012 20:20 GMT
#23884
Ive actually gone over the warranty duration of parts I buy a lot and they will still honor it anyway. Ive had great luck with ASrock and XFX in the past, Antec as well but I have not had a PSU conk out on me in forever. PSU's really are for forever.

These manufacturers dont seem to want to deal with middle men either and will bend way over backwards to avoid it. But Ive seen prebuilt owners not get any leash whatsoever and ive seen the build distributor also not honor rebates or totally legit warranties for various BS reasons.
twitch.tv/medrea
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
August 08 2012 20:30 GMT
#23885
Once again, thank you thank you thank you all that have been helping me.

Update:

I told them I'm okay with the 850w upgrade but I want a Corsair or Coolermaster 850w. I told them to charge me if its extra so once I hear back I'll let you know. Thanks for the PSU explanation.

-Someone else metioned the no HDD. I'm just going with a SSD 120GB. Heard Intel has great quality for SSD's. I don't need that much space. Just for a few games at a time, I have like 2-3gb on songs, 1 gb of pics. I don't have any vids or anything like that. If so, I can just buy an external hdd down the road for space if I need it.

-As far as the overclocking goes... You're absolutely right. I was considering x79 and 3820\2nd gen, but just decided on the z77/3rd gen i7's instead. CP didn't have the regular 3770, only the 3770k. *I did not get the 1 time overclocking protection thing that allows a free replacement proc* or I might've played around with over clocking in the future. I don't really think I will need it. (just assuming). The graphics hard and the 3.5ghz 4 core, 8 threads proc should be enough to run every game on Max for a few years...I believe?

thanks guys, I wish I could give you some Rep/karma points or something.
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 08 2012 20:32 GMT
#23886
If they had to choose they are gonna give you a Coolermaster PSU which is going to not be a very good unit AFAIK.
twitch.tv/medrea
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 08 2012 20:38 GMT
#23887
Why would you get a 850w unit even after we all explained that it's not necessary....

Corsair AX, HX, TXv2, and TXM are all significantly better than what Coolermaster has to offer except maybe the Silent Pro Hybrid and Silent Pro M2 but I doubt Cyberpower has those in stock..

And ya.. you're going to be paying like $100 or more for these units. You're just throwing money out the window at this point.
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
August 08 2012 20:39 GMT
#23888
650 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-650TXV2 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready
750 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-750TXV2 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready
750 Watts - Corsair Professional Series CMPSU-AX750 Gold 80 Plus Power Supply
750 Watts - Thermaltake Smart Series SP-750M 80 Plus Bronze Modular Power Supply
750 Watts - Thermaltake Toughpower Grand TPG-750M Gold Modular 80 Plus Power Supply
* 850 Watts - Thermaltake TR2 RX Modular 80 Plus PSU - PN: W0319RU
Olympic Last Call Mega Sale - Free Upgrade from 850W TR2 PSU] 850 Watts - Thermaltake Smart Series SP-850M 80 Plus Bronze Modular Power Supply [+0]
Olympic Last Call Mega Sale - FREE upgrade from Thermaltake 750W PSU] * 850 Watts - Thermaltake Toughpower Grand TPG-850M Gold Modular 80 Plus Power Supply [+0]
850 Watts - Cooler Master Silent Pro Hybrid 80 Plus Gold Power Supply (80+ Gold)
850 Watts - Corsair Professional Series CMPSU-AX850 80 Plus Gold Power Supply

Hit me with one bro and I'm getting it.

-afk for like 20 mins brb
Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
August 08 2012 20:48 GMT
#23889
Im looking forward to reading what these guys are gonna charge.
twitch.tv/medrea
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
August 08 2012 21:17 GMT
#23890
Those are all good (except definitely not the TR2 RX though its free upgrade is good, and maybe not the Toughpower Grand Gold), so whatever is cheapest of those is okay. I'm wondering what the extra charge is going to be too.
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
August 09 2012 03:02 GMT
#23891
is overclocking really as simple as changing the base frequency & having a good heatsink/fan for it to be stable? not a super overclock like 5ghz but going to like 4.2 on a 3770k.

i know ive heard for the i52500k they say dont mess with the base clock speed.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 09 2012 03:08 GMT
#23892
CPU overclocking these days is mostly all done with a multiplier. And yes it's that simple, most motherboards will also just allow you to press overclock and viola, everything is done for you.
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
August 09 2012 04:16 GMT
#23893
Hey guys,

I finally got my computer all setup and I've noticed that when my SSD is processing information it makes a really weird noise. It basically sounds like a very quiet version of a dentist drill.

Is there any way to diagnosis an issue like this? Or should I just RMA it?
knightwulf
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada174 Posts
August 09 2012 04:30 GMT
#23894
Thanks to skyR here is my new computer build:

Intel Core i5 3570k & MSI Z77A-G43 @ $300 ($280 after mail in rebate)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=71601&promoid=1145

Corsair 550D @ $123 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=11180AC8844 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=66726

Crucial M4 128gb @ $110
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=60445&promoid=1145

Western Digital WD20EARS Caviar Green 2TB SATA2 3Gbps 64MB Cache 3.5IN Hard Drive OEM @ 109
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=49591

EVGA GTX 670 @ $400 (incl. $30 gift card)
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=71245&promoid=1145

G.Skill Ripjaws X 2x4GB 1600MHz @ $43
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=57953&vpn=F3-12800CL9D-8GBXL&manufacture=G.Skill&promoid=1145

Antec EA-500 Green 500W ATX12V V2.3 EPS12V Active PFC 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply 120MM Fan @ 65
http://ncix.ca/products/?sku=69577

Noctua NH-D14 LGA1155/1156/1366/AM3 I7/I5/PHENOM Heatpipe Cooler w/ NF-P14 140mm NF-P12 120mm Fan @ 89
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=47090

DVD Burner @ $18 (pricematch with http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530DR5213 )
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=49597

=1450$ after tax before rebates

I am so excited to be able to build my own computer. Soon i will be able to see what better than low graphics on SC2 will be like. I wonder what it is like not lagging as soon as brood lords / motherships are out.... being able to play 2s,3s,4s, without being the one slowing down the game. soo happy.

Knightwulf
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 05:06:49
August 09 2012 05:01 GMT
#23895
i used the jellybean key finder to find my windows 7 key but how can i verify its even the correct key before i go ahead and try to reinstall windows 7?
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
August 09 2012 05:04 GMT
#23896
On August 09 2012 14:01 aBstractx wrote:
are there any free key finders so i can find my key for the windows 7 on my current pc? or another way of finding the key?

hit start->control panel->system and security->system Then scroll down, its at the bottom.
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
August 09 2012 05:07 GMT
#23897
On August 09 2012 14:04 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 14:01 aBstractx wrote:
are there any free key finders so i can find my key for the windows 7 on my current pc? or another way of finding the key?

hit start->control panel->system and security->system Then scroll down, its at the bottom.


thats my product id, not product key, cant reinstall with that i dont think
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
August 09 2012 05:12 GMT
#23898
On August 09 2012 14:07 aBstractx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 14:04 iTzSnypah wrote:
On August 09 2012 14:01 aBstractx wrote:
are there any free key finders so i can find my key for the windows 7 on my current pc? or another way of finding the key?

hit start->control panel->system and security->system Then scroll down, its at the bottom.


thats my product id, not product key, cant reinstall with that i dont think

Well then, just use the code on the sticker on your machine...
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
August 09 2012 20:41 GMT
#23899
good, fast, basic key finder:

http://www.magicaljellybean.com/keyfinder/

WonDeRSC
Profile Joined June 2011
United States234 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-09 23:31:13
August 09 2012 23:30 GMT
#23900
Hi guys, I don't know that much about computers and I was thinking about getting the GTX 560 Ti.
How would I know if it's compatible with my PC?
I currently have a Nvidia Geforce GTS 450 and a Pentinum(R) Dual-Core CPU E5300 @2.60 GHz
Thanks in advance, if there's any information about my computer that I need to add, I'll put it up.
EDIT: Also, I'm getting a new graphics card for Guild Wars 2. I currently have 30 fps on low settings.
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