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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Nuwen
Profile Joined October 2010
United States31 Posts
August 09 2012 23:36 GMT
#23901
+1 for Jellybean, used all the time at a college helpdesk.

Thanks again to everyone who talked out 2011 vs. 1155 for a right-now-need purchase. I could have ended up wasting a lot of money on a build that wouldn't fully meet my immediate need vs. future wants. So, here's my build on 1155:

http://i.imgur.com/V46Do.png

I'm thinking 650-700w will be more than sufficient, without limiting power to USB 3 devices? Do I need better cooling; I'm worried about the setup burning too hot at standard-ish clock speeds (and melting entirely if I overclock).
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 09 2012 23:47 GMT
#23902
You don't need anywhere close to 700w for such a configuration. USB devices don't pull from 12v, they use the 5v. 500w is more than adequate for the build.

H77 isn't capable of overclocking. You need a Z77 to overclock the 3770k. You're also missing an aftermarket heatsink.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 09 2012 23:50 GMT
#23903
You will need a Z77 motherboard to OC, if you aren't don't get a K cpu

Also Samsung Series 830, Crucial M4, Plextor M3 and Intel are much more reliable SSD's at similar/better price

For PSU, in the US, Rosewill Capstone is a really good choice, 450w verison is more then plenty

"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
poundcakes
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway239 Posts
August 10 2012 00:18 GMT
#23904
The Vertex 4 should be more reliable than OCZ's previous offerings, marvell controllers with custom firmware by indilinx have been performing quite well with the firmware updates they've rolled out.
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Jell
Profile Joined September 2011
Portugal86 Posts
August 10 2012 08:19 GMT
#23905
Hey guys! I'll be buying a new computer at the end of this month! I'll finally be able to play SC2, quite happy about all of this.

Do you all think this is a good build? Is the GTX 670 worth the price up? Should I change anything up?

Prices at Global Data

Cpu - I5 3570K - 227€ /
GPU - GTX 670 EVGA - 392€ / HD RADEON 7870 - 308€
RAM - RIPJAW 8GB - 49€
MOBO - ASROCK Z77 PRO4 - 109€
HD - WESTERN DIGITAL 500GB - 67€
PSU - CORSAIR CX-600W V2 - 70€
Caixa - COOLERMASTER ELITE 431 - 61€
Cooler - COOLERMASTER HYPER 212 EVO - 30€

GRAND TOTAL - 1005€ / 921€

Thanks! :D
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 10:23:10
August 10 2012 10:22 GMT
#23906
Buy here, will be cheaper

hardwareversand.de


8gb ram, 36.16€ : http://www2.hardwareversand.de/1333 Low Voltage/44315/8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9.article
500gb HDD, 59€ : http://www2.hardwareversand.de/7200 rpm/30390/Hitachi DESKSTAR 7K1000.C 500GB, 16MB, SATA II, 8,9cm (3,5).article
Bitfenix Merc Alpha, 33.2€ : http://www2.hardwareversand.de/Midi/50576/BitFenix Merc Beta.article
Asrock Z77 pro4, 104.99€ : http://www2.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/57623/ASRock Z77 Pro4, Sockel 1155, ATX.article
I5-3570k "tray version", 214.58€ : http://www2.hardwareversand.de/Socket 1155/57690/Intel Core i5-3570K Tray, LGA1155.article
Xigmatek Gaia SD1283, 24.16€ : http://www2.hardwareversand.de/Intel AMD/39771/Xigmatek Gaia SD1283 Heatpipe Cooler 120mm.article
be quiet! PURE POWER BQT L7-630W, 66.59€ : http://www2.hardwareversand.de/articledetail.jsp?adp=0&aid=50967&agid=1629&apop=4
(this will handle 2 cards no problem, you can step up to the 730 version for like 8€, but it's more then plenty, saying this because of the CX/SLI board you took)

As for GPU, that all depends of your resolution, and of the games you are playing.
If nothing more then SC2 :
HIS HD6850, 132€, enough for ultra at 1080p : http://www2.hardwareversand.de/1024 MB/39499/HIS HD 6850 Fan GDDR5 1024MB Native HDMI Display Port Dual-DVI.article

After that the next step is the HD 7850, 201,97€ : http://www2.hardwareversand.de/1024 MB/59766/Club 3D Radeon HD 7850 royalQueen, 1GB GDDR5.article

HD7870, 274.17€ : http://www2.hardwareversand.de/2048 MB/57697/Sapphire HD 7870 2GB GDDR5 PCI-Express.article

GTX670, 376.86€ : http://www2.hardwareversand.de/2048MB/59050/MSI N670GTX-PM2D2GD5 OC, GeForce GTX 670, 2048MB DDR5.article

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Jeff100
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada19 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 17:17:18
August 10 2012 16:51 GMT
#23907
Hi Everyone

I was wondering if I could get some help building a computer. I've never done it before, and am a little nervous doing it, hahah.

Here are the answers to the OP questions.

Budget: <$1000CAD with monitor.

Resolution: I'm not really sure. I'm assuming this will depend on which monitor I get. I think I'd prefer to spend my money on computer performance and just get any old flat screen monitor.

Using it for: gaming (SC2, D3, LOL, TF2) / programming (matlab) / watching movies etc.

Upgrade cycle: 3 years

When am I building it: Now

Overclocking: No

OS: Windows 7 and either Linux or OSX (some software I use needs linux)

Second GPU: I don't think I need one. haha, do I?

Buying parts: Online shipped to canada
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 17:04:28
August 10 2012 17:02 GMT
#23908
Gigabyte B75M-D3H mATX @ $70
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70273&promoid=1145

Intel Core i5 2320 Quad Core Processor @ $159.99
Special with some motherboards at ncix

Kingston KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX 8GB @ $43.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70136&promoid=1034

MSI Radeon HD 7850 Twin Frozr III @ $250 - $30MIR
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70852&promoid=1034

Antec Neo Eco 450C @ $40
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&promoid=1145

ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X @ $17.5
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&promoid=1034 pricemath @ http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530DR5213&vpn=DRW-24B1ST Bulk&manufacture=ASUS

Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM @ $75
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&promoid=1145

Comes to $658.93 pre tax and pre MIR

Case that you like @ 50-100$ (maybe buy at http://www.directcanada.com for free shipping)

Monitor: 150$ or low end or 200-300$ for a good one.

I would presonally advice you not to go with "I think I'd prefer to spend my money on computer performance and just get any old flat screen monitor.",

The GPU might be overkill for the games you stated but if you are going to play any other games for the next 3 years, it should be a good choice. gpu performance compared to the one in your prebuilt: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=549

im not an expert, so wait for SkyR to respond too.
Ian Ian Ian
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
915 Posts
August 10 2012 18:03 GMT
#23909
Could this thread be used if someone was looking to build a laptop not a desktop?
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 18:11:11
August 10 2012 18:09 GMT
#23910
On August 11 2012 03:03 Ian Ian Ian wrote:
Could this thread be used if someone was looking to build a laptop not a desktop?


If you mean to pick a laptop, custom or otherwise, sure.

If you mean you're good enough to build a laptop, you don't have the slightest need for this thread, and if you're asking that question, you're not, so it's moot.

No offense, but building a laptop is like a vanity project. It's not something even most crazy enthusiasts do.

This isn't me trying to insult you. Laptop hardware is a pain in the ass.

I might do it for fun some time if I get large amounts of cash to waste on it, if, at the time, I already have an absurd desktop that's only value is looking pretty and running benchmarks.
Jeff100
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada19 Posts
August 10 2012 18:55 GMT
#23911
On August 11 2012 02:02 Ata wrote:
Gigabyte B75M-D3H mATX @ $70
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70273&promoid=1145

Intel Core i5 2320 Quad Core Processor @ $159.99
Special with some motherboards at ncix

Kingston KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX 8GB @ $43.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70136&promoid=1034

MSI Radeon HD 7850 Twin Frozr III @ $250 - $30MIR
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70852&promoid=1034

Antec Neo Eco 450C @ $40
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&promoid=1145

ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X @ $17.5
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&promoid=1034 pricemath @ http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530DR5213&vpn=DRW-24B1ST Bulk&manufacture=ASUS

Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM @ $75
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&promoid=1145

Comes to $658.93 pre tax and pre MIR

Case that you like @ 50-100$ (maybe buy at http://www.directcanada.com for free shipping)

Monitor: 150$ or low end or 200-300$ for a good one.

I would presonally advice you not to go with "I think I'd prefer to spend my money on computer performance and just get any old flat screen monitor.",

The GPU might be overkill for the games you stated but if you are going to play any other games for the next 3 years, it should be a good choice. gpu performance compared to the one in your prebuilt: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=549

im not an expert, so wait for SkyR to respond too.


Great, thanks for your help and advice! I'll wait to see what SkyR has to say too.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 10 2012 19:07 GMT
#23912
On August 11 2012 03:55 Jeff100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 02:02 Ata wrote:
Gigabyte B75M-D3H mATX @ $70
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70273&promoid=1145

Intel Core i5 2320 Quad Core Processor @ $159.99
Special with some motherboards at ncix

Kingston KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX 8GB @ $43.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70136&promoid=1034

MSI Radeon HD 7850 Twin Frozr III @ $250 - $30MIR
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70852&promoid=1034

Antec Neo Eco 450C @ $40
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&promoid=1145

ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X @ $17.5
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&promoid=1034 pricemath @ http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530DR5213&vpn=DRW-24B1ST Bulk&manufacture=ASUS

Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM @ $75
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&promoid=1145

Comes to $658.93 pre tax and pre MIR

Case that you like @ 50-100$ (maybe buy at http://www.directcanada.com for free shipping)

Monitor: 150$ or low end or 200-300$ for a good one.

I would presonally advice you not to go with "I think I'd prefer to spend my money on computer performance and just get any old flat screen monitor.",

The GPU might be overkill for the games you stated but if you are going to play any other games for the next 3 years, it should be a good choice. gpu performance compared to the one in your prebuilt: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=549

im not an expert, so wait for SkyR to respond too.


Great, thanks for your help and advice! I'll wait to see what SkyR has to say too.


Looks good except that the processor isn't that cheap. You probably just want to pick up an Ivybridge, a core i5 3470 or 3550. I guess you can pick up an core i5 3230 for $180 and get $7 ground shipping for the entire order if you are trying to save some money.

For case, you'll just want a Bitfenix Merc Alpha for $35: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&promoid=1034

G.Skill Ripjaws are slightly less expensive and better: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57953&promoid=1034

If all you're going to play are D3, SC2, LoL, and TF2 then maybe consider a less expensive card such as a 6850 or 6870.
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 19:44:33
August 10 2012 19:28 GMT
#23913
What is your budget?

roughly $1700~ including a OS & monitor. 1920x1080

What is your resolution?

1920x1080

What are you using it for?

gaming. hardcore starcraft 2 & streaming @ 720p my up/down is spectacular, also other games, skyrim, darksiders 2 and eventually others.

What is your upgrade cycle?

2-3 years

When do you plan on building it?

within a few weeks

Do you plan on overclocking?

yes. not pushing to the limit but slight overclock maybe 4-4.4 ghz (enough to stream)

Do you need an Operating System?

yeah

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Is crossfire necessary immediately or something you invest in when your single gpu isnt strong enough to get the results you want? i would like to use this down the road sometime.

Where are you buying your parts from?

microcenter/newegg. im in the US, ny specifically

i kept trying to put parts together myself but clearly no idea as i seemed to be pissing skyr off so im just asking for a little help here. also i already have a htc evo heatsink/fan already

i can pick up a 3770k from microcenter for only 280$ so i think thats the cpu im gonna go with unless its really not recommended
Jeff100
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada19 Posts
August 10 2012 19:43 GMT
#23914
On August 11 2012 04:07 skyR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 03:55 Jeff100 wrote:
On August 11 2012 02:02 Ata wrote:
Gigabyte B75M-D3H mATX @ $70
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70273&promoid=1145

Intel Core i5 2320 Quad Core Processor @ $159.99
Special with some motherboards at ncix

Kingston KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX 8GB @ $43.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70136&promoid=1034

MSI Radeon HD 7850 Twin Frozr III @ $250 - $30MIR
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70852&promoid=1034

Antec Neo Eco 450C @ $40
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&promoid=1145

ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X @ $17.5
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&promoid=1034 pricemath @ http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530DR5213&vpn=DRW-24B1ST Bulk&manufacture=ASUS

Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM @ $75
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&promoid=1145

Comes to $658.93 pre tax and pre MIR

Case that you like @ 50-100$ (maybe buy at http://www.directcanada.com for free shipping)

Monitor: 150$ or low end or 200-300$ for a good one.

I would presonally advice you not to go with "I think I'd prefer to spend my money on computer performance and just get any old flat screen monitor.",

The GPU might be overkill for the games you stated but if you are going to play any other games for the next 3 years, it should be a good choice. gpu performance compared to the one in your prebuilt: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=549

im not an expert, so wait for SkyR to respond too.


Great, thanks for your help and advice! I'll wait to see what SkyR has to say too.


Looks good except that the processor isn't that cheap. You probably just want to pick up an Ivybridge, a core i5 3470 or 3550. I guess you can pick up an core i5 3230 for $180 and get $7 ground shipping for the entire order if you are trying to save some money.

For case, you'll just want a Bitfenix Merc Alpha for $35: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&promoid=1034

G.Skill Ripjaws are slightly less expensive and better: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57953&promoid=1034

If all you're going to play are D3, SC2, LoL, and TF2 then maybe consider a less expensive card such as a 6850 or 6870.


Great thanks!

Should I get the NCIX service plan for these things?

Thanks!
kedarking
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands98 Posts
August 10 2012 19:45 GMT
#23915
What is your budget?

Around 1000 Euros.

What is your resolution?

1920x1080

What are you using it for?

High-end gaming (maxed out BF3 or Arma II for example.)

What is your upgrade cycle?

3+ years

When do you plan on building it?

Anout 2 weeks from no

Do you plan on overclocking?

Maybe slightly, but nothing big.

Do you need an Operating System?

Got that covered.

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

Maybe, maybe not. Don't worry about it.

Where are you buying your parts from?

I'll probably be scouring for the best prices on Tweakers.net (I live in the Netherlands).

The 1000 euros does not include a monitor or any kind of accessories.

"There's nothing more awesome, than being proud of the things you love." The most inspirational man I've ever known, also knon as Day[J]
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 10 2012 20:26 GMT
#23916
On August 11 2012 04:43 Jeff100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 04:07 skyR wrote:
On August 11 2012 03:55 Jeff100 wrote:
On August 11 2012 02:02 Ata wrote:
Gigabyte B75M-D3H mATX @ $70
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70273&promoid=1145

Intel Core i5 2320 Quad Core Processor @ $159.99
Special with some motherboards at ncix

Kingston KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX 8GB @ $43.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70136&promoid=1034

MSI Radeon HD 7850 Twin Frozr III @ $250 - $30MIR
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=70852&promoid=1034

Antec Neo Eco 450C @ $40
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=60491&promoid=1145

ASUS DRW-24B1ST 24X @ $17.5
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=49597&promoid=1034 pricemath @ http://www.directcanada.com/products/?sku=10530DR5213&vpn=DRW-24B1ST Bulk&manufacture=ASUS

Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM @ $75
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=65701&promoid=1145

Comes to $658.93 pre tax and pre MIR

Case that you like @ 50-100$ (maybe buy at http://www.directcanada.com for free shipping)

Monitor: 150$ or low end or 200-300$ for a good one.

I would presonally advice you not to go with "I think I'd prefer to spend my money on computer performance and just get any old flat screen monitor.",

The GPU might be overkill for the games you stated but if you are going to play any other games for the next 3 years, it should be a good choice. gpu performance compared to the one in your prebuilt: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=549

im not an expert, so wait for SkyR to respond too.


Great, thanks for your help and advice! I'll wait to see what SkyR has to say too.


Looks good except that the processor isn't that cheap. You probably just want to pick up an Ivybridge, a core i5 3470 or 3550. I guess you can pick up an core i5 3230 for $180 and get $7 ground shipping for the entire order if you are trying to save some money.

For case, you'll just want a Bitfenix Merc Alpha for $35: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=63256&promoid=1034

G.Skill Ripjaws are slightly less expensive and better: http://ncix.com/products/?sku=57953&promoid=1034

If all you're going to play are D3, SC2, LoL, and TF2 then maybe consider a less expensive card such as a 6850 or 6870.


Great thanks!

Should I get the NCIX service plan for these things?

Thanks!


No. All the parts have manufacturer warranty.
Mercurial
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada92 Posts
August 10 2012 22:12 GMT
#23917
Can anyone recommend which mobo might be a better buy, im currently debating between

http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_722&item_id=047866 asrock z77 pro4
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_722&item_id=047582 asus p8z77-v le
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_722&item_id=047869 asrock z77 extreme4
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_722&item_id=049996 asus p8z77-v lk
http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=26_722&item_id=047272 asus p8z77-v lx

My optimal price range is between 110-150 CAD $ but might go up to 160, I might overclock a bit and might later try sli/crossfire so I would like that option, but it's not absolutely neccessary. Any other suggestions would be appreciated.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 10 2012 22:16 GMT
#23918
All of those are severely overpriced.
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
August 11 2012 04:46 GMT
#23919
Do all 1155 mobos (some of which have been available for sandy bridge) have their bios automatically updated to be compatible with ivy bridge cpu's?
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
August 11 2012 05:23 GMT
#23920
On August 11 2012 13:46 billy5000 wrote:
Do all 1155 mobos (some of which have been available for sandy bridge) have their bios automatically updated to be compatible with ivy bridge cpu's?


no you have to flash it with a sandy.
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