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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
fOrTT
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States123 Posts
August 12 2012 01:13 GMT
#23941
I'm looking to buy a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti to build my desktop but am confused about which brand to choose. The prices range from $191 (zotac) to $274(galaxy). Could someone explain to me the difference in performance between the brands and if the extra $50 or so bucks for a more expensive brand is worth it?
I'm looking at http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?Ntt=NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti&submit.x=0&submit.y=0 right now.
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
August 12 2012 01:23 GMT
#23942
On August 12 2012 10:13 fOrTT wrote:
I'm looking to buy a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti to build my desktop but am confused about which brand to choose. The prices range from $191 (zotac) to $274(galaxy). Could someone explain to me the difference in performance between the brands and if the extra $50 or so bucks for a more expensive brand is worth it?
I'm looking at http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?Ntt=NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti&submit.x=0&submit.y=0 right now.


The only reasons to buy a more expensive card on nvidia are warranty from EVGA, or a good aftermarket cooling solution.
Rkuro
Profile Joined June 2011
United States43 Posts
August 12 2012 14:58 GMT
#23943
Sup TL,
Looking to buy this GPU Radeon HD 6850.
Just wondering if it will fit in my case, or how I would know if it would. Case
Thanks
There is but one, and I am he
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
August 12 2012 15:48 GMT
#23944
Can anyone recommend me a good 450W PSU for <£50?
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 12 2012 16:10 GMT
#23945
On August 12 2012 23:58 Rkuro wrote:
Sup TL,
Looking to buy this GPU Radeon HD 6850.
Just wondering if it will fit in my case, or how I would know if it would. Case
Thanks


Yes it will easily fit.
fOrTT
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States123 Posts
August 12 2012 23:15 GMT
#23946
So I bought my parts to build my computer this weekend cause it was tax-free weekend. This is what it's gonna be:

CPU: Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4GHz LGA 1155
GPU: Gigabyte GV-N560OC-1G NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti 1024MB GDDR5 PCIe 2.0 x16
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V LK LGA 1155 Z77 ATX Intel
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Series 4GB DDR3-1600 (PC3-12800) CL9
Primary Drive: Crucial m4 CT128M4SSD2 128GB SATA 6.0Gb/s 2.5" Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) with Marvell Controller
Secondary Drive: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7,200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive STBD2000101
Case : Diablotek EVO Mid Tower

Total cost: $806 - $40 mail-in rebate = $766
I didn't buy a PSU cause my bro gave me a 1100 watt Tagan PSU that was never used. (I know 1100 watt is so unnecessary but it was free)
Saved a LOT just buying the parts and building it rather than buying it pre-built at some site like ibuypower.com (around $350)

I'm picking up the parts tomorrow, any changes anyone recommends before I do?
fOrTT
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States123 Posts
August 12 2012 23:18 GMT
#23947
Also, any recommendations on a good speaker set? Willing to spend ~$160
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 12 2012 23:19 GMT
#23948
You're missing an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking.

ASUS P8Z77-V LK is overpriced.

Why a GTX 560 Ti? 7850 is all around better.

Corsair Vengeance often overpriced as well.

Why Diablotek? They don't make good anything.
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-12 23:59:09
August 12 2012 23:49 GMT
#23949
Will this setup run skyrim/darksiders 2/starcraft 2/league of legends well? (max to very high settings at good fps)

- i7 3770
- 8 gb - 1333 ram
- nvidia geforce gtx 550 ti
- 700 watt corsair psu (58A) on the 12v

If people need more information let me know, any answers/comments are most appreciated.

I was thinking of upgrading the card on friday (I get paid, what would the best most cost efficient upgrade be?) also would adding more RAM have any effect?
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 00:17:11
August 13 2012 00:14 GMT
#23950
On August 13 2012 08:49 Hierarch wrote:
Will this setup run skyrim/darksiders 2/starcraft 2/league of legends well? (max to very high settings at good fps)

- i7 3770
- 8 gb - 1333 ram
- nvidia geforce gtx 550 ti
- 700 watt corsair psu (58A) on the 12v

If people need more information let me know, any answers/comments are most appreciated.

I was thinking of upgrading the card on friday (I get paid, what would the best most cost efficient upgrade be?) also would adding more RAM have any effect?


550 ti is a very bad card to buy today but since two of the games are extremely consolified and the other two are casual games made to run on anything, it wouldn't actually affect much. However Skyrim might be problematic at high resolutions.

No, more than 8gb ram will not impact gameplay, not even 4gb will. Your priorities are a bit strange. Why do you think a 550 ti needs 58A?

From those schizophrenic specs I'm guessing it's a prebuilt, and the PSU is probably the GS700. Sigh.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 00:21:41
August 13 2012 00:16 GMT
#23951
On August 13 2012 09:14 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 08:49 Hierarch wrote:
Will this setup run skyrim/darksiders 2/starcraft 2/league of legends well? (max to very high settings at good fps)

- i7 3770
- 8 gb - 1333 ram
- nvidia geforce gtx 550 ti
- 700 watt corsair psu (58A) on the 12v

If people need more information let me know, any answers/comments are most appreciated.

I was thinking of upgrading the card on friday (I get paid, what would the best most cost efficient upgrade be?) also would adding more RAM have any effect?


550 ti is a very bad card to buy today but since two of the games are extremely consolified and the other two are casual games made to run on anything, it wouldn't actually affect much. However Skyrim might be problematic at high resolutions.

No, more than 8gb ram will not impact gameplay, not even 4gb will. Your priorities are a bit strange. Why do you think a 550 ti needs 58A?


I don't I just got a really good deal on it through work so as I needed a Psu and this one would work it didn't seem like a bad deal, is it bad to run this Psu? Also what should I upgrade the card to?


On August 13 2012 09:14 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 08:49 Hierarch wrote:
Will this setup run skyrim/darksiders 2/starcraft 2/league of legends well? (max to very high settings at good fps)

- i7 3770
- 8 gb - 1333 ram
- nvidia geforce gtx 550 ti
- 700 watt corsair psu (58A) on the 12v

If people need more information let me know, any answers/comments are most appreciated.

I was thinking of upgrading the card on friday (I get paid, what would the best most cost efficient upgrade be?) also would adding more RAM have any effect?


550 ti is a very bad card to buy today but since two of the games are extremely consolified and the other two are casual games made to run on anything, it wouldn't actually affect much. However Skyrim might be problematic at high resolutions.

No, more than 8gb ram will not impact gameplay, not even 4gb will. Your priorities are a bit strange. Why do you think a 550 ti needs 58A?

From those schizophrenic specs I'm guessing it's a prebuilt, and the PSU is probably the GS700. Sigh.


It is, I'm just upgrading it, I got a good price through work is there any reason you're sighing? Making me nervous/sad
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
August 13 2012 00:21 GMT
#23952
On August 13 2012 09:16 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 09:14 Shauni wrote:
On August 13 2012 08:49 Hierarch wrote:
Will this setup run skyrim/darksiders 2/starcraft 2/league of legends well? (max to very high settings at good fps)

- i7 3770
- 8 gb - 1333 ram
- nvidia geforce gtx 550 ti
- 700 watt corsair psu (58A) on the 12v

If people need more information let me know, any answers/comments are most appreciated.

I was thinking of upgrading the card on friday (I get paid, what would the best most cost efficient upgrade be?) also would adding more RAM have any effect?


550 ti is a very bad card to buy today but since two of the games are extremely consolified and the other two are casual games made to run on anything, it wouldn't actually affect much. However Skyrim might be problematic at high resolutions.

No, more than 8gb ram will not impact gameplay, not even 4gb will. Your priorities are a bit strange. Why do you think a 550 ti needs 58A?


I don't I just got a really good deal on it through work so as I needed a Psu and this one would work it didn't seem like a bad deal, is it bad to run this Psu? Also what should I upgrade the card to?


Just post the exact components you're buying and at what price.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 00:27:02
August 13 2012 00:23 GMT
#23953
On August 13 2012 09:21 Shauni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 09:16 Hierarch wrote:
On August 13 2012 09:14 Shauni wrote:
On August 13 2012 08:49 Hierarch wrote:
Will this setup run skyrim/darksiders 2/starcraft 2/league of legends well? (max to very high settings at good fps)

- i7 3770
- 8 gb - 1333 ram
- nvidia geforce gtx 550 ti
- 700 watt corsair psu (58A) on the 12v

If people need more information let me know, any answers/comments are most appreciated.

I was thinking of upgrading the card on friday (I get paid, what would the best most cost efficient upgrade be?) also would adding more RAM have any effect?


550 ti is a very bad card to buy today but since two of the games are extremely consolified and the other two are casual games made to run on anything, it wouldn't actually affect much. However Skyrim might be problematic at high resolutions.

No, more than 8gb ram will not impact gameplay, not even 4gb will. Your priorities are a bit strange. Why do you think a 550 ti needs 58A?


I don't I just got a really good deal on it through work so as I needed a Psu and this one would work it didn't seem like a bad deal, is it bad to run this Psu? Also what should I upgrade the card to?


Just post the exact components you're buying and at what price.


It's a prebuilt asus tower that I found out i can get through work for 600$ with the processor the ram etc already in it I was just gonna upgrade the card from the 550 which i got from a friend and the power supply i paid 60$ for. Would it be better to just build one from scratch? I just thought it wouldn't be that bad for the price.
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 00:31:44
August 13 2012 00:29 GMT
#23954
Ello TL,

Looking to purchase myself a new cpu (My old one got hit by lightning so need to build a new cpu this week) and I'm debating between two processors atm.

Either AMD's 8150 or intel's 3570k.

Now before I get a hailstorm of "go intel amd sucks" I would like to mention that while I do indeed game, I have a strong hobby in video encoding, something which AMD's bulldozer is supposedly better at than the 3570 and at $50 less. Money which I plan on putting towards a GTX 570 in a couple of months. That said, is it better to put that money towards a gtx, or instead go with intel? More importantly would there be any visible difference between the two?
"two is way better than twice as one" - artosis
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
August 13 2012 01:00 GMT
#23955
On August 13 2012 08:18 fOrTT wrote:
Also, any recommendations on a good speaker set? Willing to spend ~$160

For what? Listening to music, gaming, watching movies...?

Since there's a lack of info (not like I'm familiar with options in this price range for speakers anyway), I'll list generic 2.0 or 2.1 options at around $110-170: Swans M10, M-Audio AV40, Pioneer BS21-LR + Dayton DTA-1 (or preferably, some old stereo receiver for cheap), Alesis M1 Active 520. Those are just some names I see floating around.

On August 13 2012 09:23 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 09:21 Shauni wrote:
On August 13 2012 09:16 Hierarch wrote:
On August 13 2012 09:14 Shauni wrote:
On August 13 2012 08:49 Hierarch wrote:
Will this setup run skyrim/darksiders 2/starcraft 2/league of legends well? (max to very high settings at good fps)

- i7 3770
- 8 gb - 1333 ram
- nvidia geforce gtx 550 ti
- 700 watt corsair psu (58A) on the 12v

If people need more information let me know, any answers/comments are most appreciated.

I was thinking of upgrading the card on friday (I get paid, what would the best most cost efficient upgrade be?) also would adding more RAM have any effect?


550 ti is a very bad card to buy today but since two of the games are extremely consolified and the other two are casual games made to run on anything, it wouldn't actually affect much. However Skyrim might be problematic at high resolutions.

No, more than 8gb ram will not impact gameplay, not even 4gb will. Your priorities are a bit strange. Why do you think a 550 ti needs 58A?


I don't I just got a really good deal on it through work so as I needed a Psu and this one would work it didn't seem like a bad deal, is it bad to run this Psu? Also what should I upgrade the card to?


Just post the exact components you're buying and at what price.


It's a prebuilt asus tower that I found out i can get through work for 600$ with the processor the ram etc already in it I was just gonna upgrade the card from the 550 which i got from a friend and the power supply i paid 60$ for. Would it be better to just build one from scratch? I just thought it wouldn't be that bad for the price.

What parts does the tower have, and which would you use? CPU, motherboard, RAM, hard drive, optical drive, tower, NOT power supply, NOT video card (integrated?), Windows (or not necessary)?

Depending on the answer, $600 could be reasonable or not.

On August 13 2012 09:29 Energizer wrote:
Ello TL,

Looking to purchase myself a new cpu (My old one got hit by lightning so need to build a new cpu this week) and I'm debating between two processors atm.

Either AMD's 8150 or intel's 3570k.

Now before I get a hailstorm of "go intel amd sucks" I would like to mention that while I do indeed game, I have a strong hobby in video encoding, something which AMD's bulldozer is supposedly better at than the 3570 and at $50 less. Money which I plan on putting towards a GTX 570 in a couple of months. That said, is it better to put that money towards a gtx, or instead go with intel? More importantly would there be any visible difference between the two?

GTX 570, why? Granted, they're pretty discounted these days, but these days you can get similar performance without having something so power hungry, hot, and loud. Your choice.

Anyway, would you be overclocking the CPU? Obviously you need a new motherboard, so what else do you need? CPU cooler too? How much would you be spending in all?

What kinds of games now and in the future would you be playing? For many, CPU performance is not really that important.

Another potential option to consider is a Xeon E3-1230 V2, which at stock speeds beats a FX-8150 at everything for slightly more than the i5-3570k. These work on consumer (e.g. H77) motherboards.
BamBam
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 01:53:37
August 13 2012 01:48 GMT
#23956
On August 13 2012 10:00 Myrmidon wrote:

Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 09:29 Energizer wrote:
Ello TL,

Looking to purchase myself a new cpu (My old one got hit by lightning so need to build a new cpu this week) and I'm debating between two processors atm.

Either AMD's 8150 or intel's 3570k.

Now before I get a hailstorm of "go intel amd sucks" I would like to mention that while I do indeed game, I have a strong hobby in video encoding, something which AMD's bulldozer is supposedly better at than the 3570 and at $50 less. Money which I plan on putting towards a GTX 570 in a couple of months. That said, is it better to put that money towards a gtx, or instead go with intel? More importantly would there be any visible difference between the two?

GTX 570, why? Granted, they're pretty discounted these days, but these days you can get similar performance without having something so power hungry, hot, and loud. Your choice.

Anyway, would you be overclocking the CPU? Obviously you need a new motherboard, so what else do you need? CPU cooler too? How much would you be spending in all?

What kinds of games now and in the future would you be playing? For many, CPU performance is not really that important.

Another potential option to consider is a Xeon E3-1230 V2, which at stock speeds beats a FX-8150 at everything for slightly more than the i5-3570k. These work on consumer (e.g. H77) motherboards.



Why 570? Because a Quadro 4000 is out of my budget xD

But hey, if you can offer cheaper alternatives to a 570 that has similar specs, I'm more than happy to listen!

As for OC, Im sad to say im a noob at it, only ever done it once to a dying AMD chip that I was looking to repace anyways. But if I were to get one of the two chips I would go nuts on it to try and push both of them for a 4.5+ GHz speed with probably a cheap $20 after market cooler. If I didnt plan to OC I wouldn't be looking past the $100 range

As for games mostly things like sc2, civi 4, Crysis 3 and without question Rome 2. Everything else are games that have relatively low specs (Like spore, amnesia, FO3, things that my now obsolete graphics card can run lol). Though my concern for the CPU isn't game related (its a bonus), its mostly for video editing.

Also as far as price is concern, I dont plan to go a penny more than what a 3570 would cost. In total im expecting to pay roughly $320 for a chip + motherboard combo, plus another $100 for a TB drive to replace my IDE HD.
"two is way better than twice as one" - artosis
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 02:25:53
August 13 2012 02:21 GMT
#23957
On August 13 2012 10:00 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 08:18 fOrTT wrote:
Also, any recommendations on a good speaker set? Willing to spend ~$160

For what? Listening to music, gaming, watching movies...?

Since there's a lack of info (not like I'm familiar with options in this price range for speakers anyway), I'll list generic 2.0 or 2.1 options at around $110-170: Swans M10, M-Audio AV40, Pioneer BS21-LR + Dayton DTA-1 (or preferably, some old stereo receiver for cheap), Alesis M1 Active 520. Those are just some names I see floating around.

Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 09:23 Hierarch wrote:
On August 13 2012 09:21 Shauni wrote:
On August 13 2012 09:16 Hierarch wrote:
On August 13 2012 09:14 Shauni wrote:
On August 13 2012 08:49 Hierarch wrote:
Will this setup run skyrim/darksiders 2/starcraft 2/league of legends well? (max to very high settings at good fps)

- i7 3770
- 8 gb - 1333 ram
- nvidia geforce gtx 550 ti
- 700 watt corsair psu (58A) on the 12v

If people need more information let me know, any answers/comments are most appreciated.

I was thinking of upgrading the card on friday (I get paid, what would the best most cost efficient upgrade be?) also would adding more RAM have any effect?


550 ti is a very bad card to buy today but since two of the games are extremely consolified and the other two are casual games made to run on anything, it wouldn't actually affect much. However Skyrim might be problematic at high resolutions.

No, more than 8gb ram will not impact gameplay, not even 4gb will. Your priorities are a bit strange. Why do you think a 550 ti needs 58A?


I don't I just got a really good deal on it through work so as I needed a Psu and this one would work it didn't seem like a bad deal, is it bad to run this Psu? Also what should I upgrade the card to?


Just post the exact components you're buying and at what price.


It's a prebuilt asus tower that I found out i can get through work for 600$ with the processor the ram etc already in it I was just gonna upgrade the card from the 550 which i got from a friend and the power supply i paid 60$ for. Would it be better to just build one from scratch? I just thought it wouldn't be that bad for the price.

What parts does the tower have, and which would you use? CPU, motherboard, RAM, hard drive, optical drive, tower, NOT power supply, NOT video card (integrated?), Windows (or not necessary)?

Depending on the answer, $600 could be reasonable or not.

Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 09:29 Energizer wrote:
Ello TL,

Looking to purchase myself a new cpu (My old one got hit by lightning so need to build a new cpu this week) and I'm debating between two processors atm.

Either AMD's 8150 or intel's 3570k.

Now before I get a hailstorm of "go intel amd sucks" I would like to mention that while I do indeed game, I have a strong hobby in video encoding, something which AMD's bulldozer is supposedly better at than the 3570 and at $50 less. Money which I plan on putting towards a GTX 570 in a couple of months. That said, is it better to put that money towards a gtx, or instead go with intel? More importantly would there be any visible difference between the two?

GTX 570, why? Granted, they're pretty discounted these days, but these days you can get similar performance without having something so power hungry, hot, and loud. Your choice.

Anyway, would you be overclocking the CPU? Obviously you need a new motherboard, so what else do you need? CPU cooler too? How much would you be spending in all?

What kinds of games now and in the future would you be playing? For many, CPU performance is not really that important.

Another potential option to consider is a Xeon E3-1230 V2, which at stock speeds beats a FX-8150 at everything for slightly more than the i5-3570k. These work on consumer (e.g. H77) motherboards.


It has
CPU - i7 3770
motherboard - it's an asus mobo with 2 RAM slots and 2 PCI slots I have no idea how to tell which exact mobo it is
RAM - 8 gb ddr3 1333
hard drive - 7200 1 TB
optical drive - standard dvd player/burner
os - has windows 7 home premium on it
video card - GTX 550 ti my friend gave it to me since he upgraded his system

what card should i upgrade to to get improved performance on skyrim ( from the 550)
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
August 13 2012 03:00 GMT
#23958
On August 13 2012 10:48 Energizer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 10:00 Myrmidon wrote:

On August 13 2012 09:29 Energizer wrote:
Ello TL,

Looking to purchase myself a new cpu (My old one got hit by lightning so need to build a new cpu this week) and I'm debating between two processors atm.

Either AMD's 8150 or intel's 3570k.

Now before I get a hailstorm of "go intel amd sucks" I would like to mention that while I do indeed game, I have a strong hobby in video encoding, something which AMD's bulldozer is supposedly better at than the 3570 and at $50 less. Money which I plan on putting towards a GTX 570 in a couple of months. That said, is it better to put that money towards a gtx, or instead go with intel? More importantly would there be any visible difference between the two?

GTX 570, why? Granted, they're pretty discounted these days, but these days you can get similar performance without having something so power hungry, hot, and loud. Your choice.

Anyway, would you be overclocking the CPU? Obviously you need a new motherboard, so what else do you need? CPU cooler too? How much would you be spending in all?

What kinds of games now and in the future would you be playing? For many, CPU performance is not really that important.

Another potential option to consider is a Xeon E3-1230 V2, which at stock speeds beats a FX-8150 at everything for slightly more than the i5-3570k. These work on consumer (e.g. H77) motherboards.



Why 570? Because a Quadro 4000 is out of my budget xD

But hey, if you can offer cheaper alternatives to a 570 that has similar specs, I'm more than happy to listen!

As for OC, Im sad to say im a noob at it, only ever done it once to a dying AMD chip that I was looking to repace anyways. But if I were to get one of the two chips I would go nuts on it to try and push both of them for a 4.5+ GHz speed with probably a cheap $20 after market cooler. If I didnt plan to OC I wouldn't be looking past the $100 range

As for games mostly things like sc2, civi 4, Crysis 3 and without question Rome 2. Everything else are games that have relatively low specs (Like spore, amnesia, FO3, things that my now obsolete graphics card can run lol). Though my concern for the CPU isn't game related (its a bonus), its mostly for video editing.

Also as far as price is concern, I dont plan to go a penny more than what a 3570 would cost. In total im expecting to pay roughly $320 for a chip + motherboard combo, plus another $100 for a TB drive to replace my IDE HD.

Just FYI, there's a better GTX 570 for $30 cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130687

But for around $270 these days, instead of a last-generation 40nm GTX 570, you can get a current-generation 28nm HD 7870. You just won't get a part with EVGA lifetime warranty for $270, and you obviously won't have CUDA support, which is irrelevant to most people.

For video encoding with most encoders, FX-8150 is definitely better, as you've noted. Be sure to not try overclocking it unless you get a decent motherboard and something much better than a $20 cooler. These things have obscene power consumption when overclocked far. You'll need a motherboard and cooler that cost more than what you would need to overclock a i5-3570k.


On August 13 2012 11:21 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 10:00 Myrmidon wrote:
On August 13 2012 08:18 fOrTT wrote:
Also, any recommendations on a good speaker set? Willing to spend ~$160

For what? Listening to music, gaming, watching movies...?

Since there's a lack of info (not like I'm familiar with options in this price range for speakers anyway), I'll list generic 2.0 or 2.1 options at around $110-170: Swans M10, M-Audio AV40, Pioneer BS21-LR + Dayton DTA-1 (or preferably, some old stereo receiver for cheap), Alesis M1 Active 520. Those are just some names I see floating around.

On August 13 2012 09:23 Hierarch wrote:
On August 13 2012 09:21 Shauni wrote:
On August 13 2012 09:16 Hierarch wrote:
On August 13 2012 09:14 Shauni wrote:
On August 13 2012 08:49 Hierarch wrote:
Will this setup run skyrim/darksiders 2/starcraft 2/league of legends well? (max to very high settings at good fps)

- i7 3770
- 8 gb - 1333 ram
- nvidia geforce gtx 550 ti
- 700 watt corsair psu (58A) on the 12v

If people need more information let me know, any answers/comments are most appreciated.

I was thinking of upgrading the card on friday (I get paid, what would the best most cost efficient upgrade be?) also would adding more RAM have any effect?


550 ti is a very bad card to buy today but since two of the games are extremely consolified and the other two are casual games made to run on anything, it wouldn't actually affect much. However Skyrim might be problematic at high resolutions.

No, more than 8gb ram will not impact gameplay, not even 4gb will. Your priorities are a bit strange. Why do you think a 550 ti needs 58A?


I don't I just got a really good deal on it through work so as I needed a Psu and this one would work it didn't seem like a bad deal, is it bad to run this Psu? Also what should I upgrade the card to?


Just post the exact components you're buying and at what price.


It's a prebuilt asus tower that I found out i can get through work for 600$ with the processor the ram etc already in it I was just gonna upgrade the card from the 550 which i got from a friend and the power supply i paid 60$ for. Would it be better to just build one from scratch? I just thought it wouldn't be that bad for the price.

What parts does the tower have, and which would you use? CPU, motherboard, RAM, hard drive, optical drive, tower, NOT power supply, NOT video card (integrated?), Windows (or not necessary)?

Depending on the answer, $600 could be reasonable or not.

On August 13 2012 09:29 Energizer wrote:
Ello TL,

Looking to purchase myself a new cpu (My old one got hit by lightning so need to build a new cpu this week) and I'm debating between two processors atm.

Either AMD's 8150 or intel's 3570k.

Now before I get a hailstorm of "go intel amd sucks" I would like to mention that while I do indeed game, I have a strong hobby in video encoding, something which AMD's bulldozer is supposedly better at than the 3570 and at $50 less. Money which I plan on putting towards a GTX 570 in a couple of months. That said, is it better to put that money towards a gtx, or instead go with intel? More importantly would there be any visible difference between the two?

GTX 570, why? Granted, they're pretty discounted these days, but these days you can get similar performance without having something so power hungry, hot, and loud. Your choice.

Anyway, would you be overclocking the CPU? Obviously you need a new motherboard, so what else do you need? CPU cooler too? How much would you be spending in all?

What kinds of games now and in the future would you be playing? For many, CPU performance is not really that important.

Another potential option to consider is a Xeon E3-1230 V2, which at stock speeds beats a FX-8150 at everything for slightly more than the i5-3570k. These work on consumer (e.g. H77) motherboards.


It has
CPU - i7 3770
motherboard - it's an asus mobo with 2 RAM slots and 2 PCI slots I have no idea how to tell which exact mobo it is
RAM - 8 gb ddr3 1333
hard drive - 7200 1 TB
optical drive - standard dvd player/burner
os - has windows 7 home premium on it
video card - GTX 550 ti my friend gave it to me since he upgraded his system

what card should i upgrade to to get improved performance on skyrim ( from the 550)

Based on the parts you're using out of that, it's not worth $600.

It's worth a whole lot less than $600 if you don't need a i7-3770 for anything, which you probably don't. For example, in games and pretty much everything you run, an i5-3570 is about $100 cheaper and is just as fast.

So $600 for that system sucks.

If you're not expecting very high graphics settings for everything, GTX 550 Ti is not that bad. I'd just use that for a bit and then decide if an upgrade is necessary.
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
August 13 2012 03:45 GMT
#23959
On August 13 2012 12:00 Myrmidon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 10:48 Energizer wrote:
On August 13 2012 10:00 Myrmidon wrote:

On August 13 2012 09:29 Energizer wrote:
Ello TL,

Looking to purchase myself a new cpu (My old one got hit by lightning so need to build a new cpu this week) and I'm debating between two processors atm.

Either AMD's 8150 or intel's 3570k.

Now before I get a hailstorm of "go intel amd sucks" I would like to mention that while I do indeed game, I have a strong hobby in video encoding, something which AMD's bulldozer is supposedly better at than the 3570 and at $50 less. Money which I plan on putting towards a GTX 570 in a couple of months. That said, is it better to put that money towards a gtx, or instead go with intel? More importantly would there be any visible difference between the two?

GTX 570, why? Granted, they're pretty discounted these days, but these days you can get similar performance without having something so power hungry, hot, and loud. Your choice.

Anyway, would you be overclocking the CPU? Obviously you need a new motherboard, so what else do you need? CPU cooler too? How much would you be spending in all?

What kinds of games now and in the future would you be playing? For many, CPU performance is not really that important.

Another potential option to consider is a Xeon E3-1230 V2, which at stock speeds beats a FX-8150 at everything for slightly more than the i5-3570k. These work on consumer (e.g. H77) motherboards.



Why 570? Because a Quadro 4000 is out of my budget xD

But hey, if you can offer cheaper alternatives to a 570 that has similar specs, I'm more than happy to listen!

As for OC, Im sad to say im a noob at it, only ever done it once to a dying AMD chip that I was looking to repace anyways. But if I were to get one of the two chips I would go nuts on it to try and push both of them for a 4.5+ GHz speed with probably a cheap $20 after market cooler. If I didnt plan to OC I wouldn't be looking past the $100 range

As for games mostly things like sc2, civi 4, Crysis 3 and without question Rome 2. Everything else are games that have relatively low specs (Like spore, amnesia, FO3, things that my now obsolete graphics card can run lol). Though my concern for the CPU isn't game related (its a bonus), its mostly for video editing.

Also as far as price is concern, I dont plan to go a penny more than what a 3570 would cost. In total im expecting to pay roughly $320 for a chip + motherboard combo, plus another $100 for a TB drive to replace my IDE HD.

Just FYI, there's a better GTX 570 for $30 cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130687

But for around $270 these days, instead of a last-generation 40nm GTX 570, you can get a current-generation 28nm HD 7870. You just won't get a part with EVGA lifetime warranty for $270, and you obviously won't have CUDA support, which is irrelevant to most people.

For video encoding with most encoders, FX-8150 is definitely better, as you've noted. Be sure to not try overclocking it unless you get a decent motherboard and something much better than a $20 cooler. These things have obscene power consumption when overclocked far. You'll need a motherboard and cooler that cost more than what you would need to overclock a i5-3570k.


Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 11:21 Hierarch wrote:
On August 13 2012 10:00 Myrmidon wrote:
On August 13 2012 08:18 fOrTT wrote:
Also, any recommendations on a good speaker set? Willing to spend ~$160

For what? Listening to music, gaming, watching movies...?

Since there's a lack of info (not like I'm familiar with options in this price range for speakers anyway), I'll list generic 2.0 or 2.1 options at around $110-170: Swans M10, M-Audio AV40, Pioneer BS21-LR + Dayton DTA-1 (or preferably, some old stereo receiver for cheap), Alesis M1 Active 520. Those are just some names I see floating around.

On August 13 2012 09:23 Hierarch wrote:
On August 13 2012 09:21 Shauni wrote:
On August 13 2012 09:16 Hierarch wrote:
On August 13 2012 09:14 Shauni wrote:
On August 13 2012 08:49 Hierarch wrote:
Will this setup run skyrim/darksiders 2/starcraft 2/league of legends well? (max to very high settings at good fps)

- i7 3770
- 8 gb - 1333 ram
- nvidia geforce gtx 550 ti
- 700 watt corsair psu (58A) on the 12v

If people need more information let me know, any answers/comments are most appreciated.

I was thinking of upgrading the card on friday (I get paid, what would the best most cost efficient upgrade be?) also would adding more RAM have any effect?


550 ti is a very bad card to buy today but since two of the games are extremely consolified and the other two are casual games made to run on anything, it wouldn't actually affect much. However Skyrim might be problematic at high resolutions.

No, more than 8gb ram will not impact gameplay, not even 4gb will. Your priorities are a bit strange. Why do you think a 550 ti needs 58A?


I don't I just got a really good deal on it through work so as I needed a Psu and this one would work it didn't seem like a bad deal, is it bad to run this Psu? Also what should I upgrade the card to?


Just post the exact components you're buying and at what price.


It's a prebuilt asus tower that I found out i can get through work for 600$ with the processor the ram etc already in it I was just gonna upgrade the card from the 550 which i got from a friend and the power supply i paid 60$ for. Would it be better to just build one from scratch? I just thought it wouldn't be that bad for the price.

What parts does the tower have, and which would you use? CPU, motherboard, RAM, hard drive, optical drive, tower, NOT power supply, NOT video card (integrated?), Windows (or not necessary)?

Depending on the answer, $600 could be reasonable or not.

On August 13 2012 09:29 Energizer wrote:
Ello TL,

Looking to purchase myself a new cpu (My old one got hit by lightning so need to build a new cpu this week) and I'm debating between two processors atm.

Either AMD's 8150 or intel's 3570k.

Now before I get a hailstorm of "go intel amd sucks" I would like to mention that while I do indeed game, I have a strong hobby in video encoding, something which AMD's bulldozer is supposedly better at than the 3570 and at $50 less. Money which I plan on putting towards a GTX 570 in a couple of months. That said, is it better to put that money towards a gtx, or instead go with intel? More importantly would there be any visible difference between the two?

GTX 570, why? Granted, they're pretty discounted these days, but these days you can get similar performance without having something so power hungry, hot, and loud. Your choice.

Anyway, would you be overclocking the CPU? Obviously you need a new motherboard, so what else do you need? CPU cooler too? How much would you be spending in all?

What kinds of games now and in the future would you be playing? For many, CPU performance is not really that important.

Another potential option to consider is a Xeon E3-1230 V2, which at stock speeds beats a FX-8150 at everything for slightly more than the i5-3570k. These work on consumer (e.g. H77) motherboards.


It has
CPU - i7 3770
motherboard - it's an asus mobo with 2 RAM slots and 2 PCI slots I have no idea how to tell which exact mobo it is
RAM - 8 gb ddr3 1333
hard drive - 7200 1 TB
optical drive - standard dvd player/burner
os - has windows 7 home premium on it
video card - GTX 550 ti my friend gave it to me since he upgraded his system

what card should i upgrade to to get improved performance on skyrim ( from the 550)

Based on the parts you're using out of that, it's not worth $600.

It's worth a whole lot less than $600 if you don't need a i7-3770 for anything, which you probably don't. For example, in games and pretty much everything you run, an i5-3570 is about $100 cheaper and is just as fast.

So $600 for that system sucks.

If you're not expecting very high graphics settings for everything, GTX 550 Ti is not that bad. I'd just use that for a bit and then decide if an upgrade is necessary.


Ok, building one from scratch what would you suggest for a mobo a psu and a video card if i was to go with the i5 3570? Also any hard drive reccomendations? I'll prolly get a 64 gb solid state for a few things and a 1 tb hdd. I want to play skyrim, darksiders 2, starcraft 2 and league of legends on very high or max settings.
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Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
August 13 2012 08:39 GMT
#23960
Hi, I am considering doing a nice upgrade to my build in the next few weeks with some cash I've earned over the summer. My budget is about €300, and I feel like I can spend this all on a GPU; my current build is OK, I think my RAM is fine seeing as I only need it for gaming. I intend to seriously OC my CPU so that it can be somewhat on par with my new GPU. Here is my current build Windows 7 64-bit ofc:

Here is my current build:


4GB-Kit GEIL Value PC3-10600 DDR3-1333 CL9

AMD Phenom II X4 925 Box, Sockel AM3


Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus, alle Sockel

MSI 770-G45, AM3

NZXT Gamma Tower pure black, ohne Netzteil


Palit GTX460 768MB, PCI-Express

Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 650W



Xilence Power Gehäuselüfter 12cm

I am considering overclocking my processor to around 3.6Ghz. I assume this is very possible considering my cooler? I wish for games to be smoother at 1920 x 1080, Crysis maye 20-25 FPS only current setup atax settings. I'd also like some leeway while maxing out SC2. Skyrim has also taken a hit with the new texture pack.

The card I am looking at is this (I am posting an Amazin.conclink, as the prices here are better than the UK site with the exchange rate, quite a bit better - I'm from Ireland btw):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00713RT62/ref=mp_s_a_1?pi=75x56&qid=1344632185&sr=8-1

This card has some breathing room for OCing too, I believe.

Is this card a good choice? Am I doing the right thing in thinking of overclocking my processor? Any specific advice regarding overclocking my COU specifically? How far can I manage safely (I've not overclocke before). Should I make any more upgrades? Cash isn't a huge issue, but I don't want to spend a lot.

Thanks very much in advance, I realise this is a long post with many questions. Hopefully you wonderful people can help me out.

Thanks!
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