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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
August 13 2012 08:55 GMT
#23961
Can anyone recommend me a good 450W PSU for under £50?
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
August 13 2012 10:00 GMT
#23962
On August 13 2012 17:55 Lineridarz wrote:
Can anyone recommend me a good 450W PSU for under £50?


I suppose the most common choices are
Antec BasiQ VP450
CX430 V2

None of them are very good though.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
RiSkysc2
Profile Joined September 2011
696 Posts
August 13 2012 10:02 GMT
#23963
Why aren't they good?
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
August 13 2012 10:11 GMT
#23964
On August 13 2012 19:02 Lineridarz wrote:
Why aren't they good?


They are stable units, but you asked for good. In terms of ripple, volt regulation efficiency, noise and so on they are at best mediocre.
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
August 13 2012 10:16 GMT
#23965
I'm not sure I'm allowed do this, but here it goes Just posting to direct ye to my post on the previous page, lest it be buried. Thanks much
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 13 2012 11:01 GMT
#23966
If you really want to play skyrim and crysis 2 on max at good fps, yes the 7950 is a good choice, the 7850/7870 would be enough for most games though (incluing skyrim, crysis 2 being more demanding)
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 11:18:18
August 13 2012 11:14 GMT
#23967
On August 13 2012 20:01 Rachnar wrote:
If you really want to play skyrim and crysis 2 on max at good fps, yes the 7950 is a good choice, the 7850/7870 would be enough for most games though (incluing skyrim, crysis 2 being more demanding)

Is what you're saying that it's a powerful, relatively future-proof GPU, with some nice breathing room for some over-clocking?

Any thoughts on my current CPU?

I'd like to be able to play Rome Total War 2 at max/near max when it comes out next year.

Thanks!

Edit: I'm aware that there are different "versions" of this card. Is the one I chose (XFX) a good choice? I am lead to believe that it is factory over-clocked and that it has some kind of fan that facilitates further over-clocking.

Thanks so much!
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 13 2012 11:40 GMT
#23968
The cheapest, sapphire is usually a good choice with the dual-x solution, as it comes pretty cheap with decent cooling

and i'm just saying, specificaly for crysis 2, the 7950 is better then the 7870/7850 as these will not play it on max settings at good fps (well, the 7870 will normally, especially if OC'd, but the 7950 will for sure)

as for your cpu, for the games you want to play, it is decent enough still
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
August 13 2012 11:55 GMT
#23969
On August 13 2012 20:40 Rachnar wrote:
The cheapest, sapphire is usually a good choice with the dual-x solution, as it comes pretty cheap with decent cooling

and i'm just saying, specificaly for crysis 2, the 7950 is better then the 7870/7850 as these will not play it on max settings at good fps (well, the 7870 will normally, especially if OC'd, but the 7950 will for sure)

as for your cpu, for the games you want to play, it is decent enough still

Thank you. I intend to OC it though, seeing as I have (I think) a good cooler for it.

So you're saying the sapphire 7950 is bette than the XFX one? I thought the XFX had the "double-dissipation" cooling?
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 13 2012 12:22 GMT
#23970
No, i'm saying the cheapest is theb est usually, but sapphire usually is among the cheapest, and has dual cooler solution, which normally will place it amongst the best brand
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
August 13 2012 12:28 GMT
#23971
On August 13 2012 21:22 Rachnar wrote:
No, i'm saying the cheapest is theb est usually, but sapphire usually is among the cheapest, and has dual cooler solution, which normally will place it amongst the best brand

The cheapest is usually the best? Hmm. Ok. But I think the XFX has the dual cooler, no?

http://m.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7950-overclock-crossfire-benchmark,3123-3.html
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
August 13 2012 12:35 GMT
#23972
Why is it the best? Because simply it's as good as the ones that cost more

only the cooling differs, which is why sapphire, with low prices and dual-x cooling, is usually one of the best
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
August 13 2012 12:48 GMT
#23973
On August 13 2012 21:35 Rachnar wrote:
Why is it the best? Because simply it's as good as the ones that cost more

only the cooling differs, which is why sapphire, with low prices and dual-x cooling, is usually one of the best

Thanks. But like I said, I thought it was the XFX with the dual cooling?
Morpheus.EU
Profile Joined January 2012
Netherlands26 Posts
August 13 2012 13:13 GMT
#23974
I think what Rachnar is trying to say is that you should get the cheapest version with dual cooling. Multiple brands offer this, not just XFX, and most of the times, Sapphire is the cheapest dual cooling solution.
Gumbi
Profile Joined June 2012
Ireland463 Posts
August 13 2012 13:15 GMT
#23975
On August 13 2012 22:13 Morpheus.EU wrote:
I think what Rachnar is trying to say is that you should get the cheapest version with dual cooling. Multiple brands offer this, not just XFX, and most of the times, Sapphire is the cheapest dual cooling solution.

Thank you. This is a bit clearer

I'm still open to some comments about OCing my CPU. Things regarding my one specifically, how far I should go etc Thanks very much, ye are all so helpful.
fOrTT
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States123 Posts
August 13 2012 13:25 GMT
#23976
On August 13 2012 08:19 skyR wrote:
You're missing an aftermarket heatsink for overclocking.

ASUS P8Z77-V LK is overpriced.

Why a GTX 560 Ti? 7850 is all around better.

Corsair Vengeance often overpriced as well.

Why Diablotek? They don't make good anything.


After reading more reviews about cases. I think I've decided to get the Cooler Master Storm Scout, seems like it has a lot more room and better ventilation as well as an awesome look. Though it is $71 compared to the Diablotek $33.

I didn't think the Corsair was that much more expensive than the other SSDs... I know there faster ones for a little bit cheaper but they seemed to have reliability issues, so that's why I picked the Corsair.

I forgot about the heatsink, thanks. Don't want to spend a huge amount on a heatsink, so I'm going with the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO ($30)

The 7850 does indeed seem all around better for the same price. Thank you for this, totally missed that.
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 14:54:06
August 13 2012 14:53 GMT
#23977
Helping my friend build his own pc
Thanks in advance for the help


What is your budget?

£700

What is your resolution?


no monitor, gonna use his tv which is a samsung 32"

What are you using it for?

mainly gaming, software design

What is your upgrade cycle?

year and a half to 2 years

When do you plan on building it?


asap

Do you plan on overclocking?


nope

Do you need an Operating System?

yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?


yes

Where are you buying your parts from?

anywhere that delivers to uk - amazon/cyberpower/http://www1.hardwareversand.de/home.jsp?lb
Dephy
Profile Joined January 2011
Lithuania163 Posts
August 13 2012 15:55 GMT
#23978
1 x Z77PRO4 MB Z77 S1155 ATX/Z77 PRO4 ASROCK
1 x CSSD-F120GB3-BK SSD Corsair Force 3 120GB SATA3, Sparta 550/510MBs
1 x KVR16N11/8 Kingston 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL11 DIMM
1 x LT-01B-OP CHIEFTEC LIBRA LT-01B MIDI TOWER W/O PSU
1 x IT-SL700_12CM Power Supply INTER-TECH SL AC 230V, 50Hz, DC 3.3/5/±12V, 700W, Retail, Active PFC, 1x120
1 x BX80637I53570K Intel Core i5-3570K, Quad Core, 3.40GHz, 6MB, LGA1155, 22nm, 77W, VGA, BOX

these are the stuff im thinking of getting, if enyone can suggest better hardware for same/lower price, dont be shy,
i will be ocing my cpu, i picked z77pro4 cuz of the features and that virtua thing. I think 8gb ram is plently of enough? im not buying gfx because im waiting for price drop or something.
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-13 16:46:06
August 13 2012 16:23 GMT
#23979
is a hyper 212 EVO, in a pretty well ventilated case+ Show Spoiler +
(http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225)
going to be enough to overclock a i73770k to at least 4.5ghz?

another factor is my room is in the basement, and its freezing in here. duno the exact temps in my room but if i usually wear pants + shoes to keep my legs warm or else theyll freeze

or am i forced to go with something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225

also how does this build look:

going with a blue/black color look also.

cpu: i73770k

mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128544
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-UD3H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

psu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139037 will be overkill right away, should be enough for sli down the road correct? this doesnt have any reviews yet its a brand new psu, should i worry about that?
CORSAIR Gaming Series GS700 700W ATX 12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

gpu: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125413 there is one review that the guy says this card is better than the gtx680. is there any truth behind that?
GIGABYTE GV-R797OC-3GD Radeon HD 7970 3GB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231445
G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600

case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119225
COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case

SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820249015 + http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148441 (going with 2 ssds, one crucial m4 64gb & plextor m3 256 gb)

cddrive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135252 its a blueray burner figured i might want one of these down the road.

os: windows 7
heatsink/fan: hyper 212 evo, or corsair H80 for overclock to around 4.5 for streaming sc2.

take into consideration: i already have a hyper 212 evo, a crucial m4 64gb, and the ram sitting waiting to be used. so i hope they are alright in this build. more so the ssd & ram, i am willing to go to water cooling if necessary.


edit: thank you skyr for answering my heatsink problem.

currently sitting at $1800
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
August 13 2012 16:28 GMT
#23980
Yes, a Hyper 212 EVO is good enough for a moderate overclock.

A bigger case does not equate to better cooling.
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