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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 21:48:22
July 12 2012 20:53 GMT
#23281
On July 13 2012 01:33 Chimonk wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

What is your budget?
$1100 CAN

What is your resolution?
1920×1080

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming on high/ ultra settings and mid quality streaming

What is your upgrade cycle?
4 years.

When do you plan on building it?
The next couple of days

Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes but only slightly

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.

Where are you buying your parts from?
nicx.com



$324.99 after $20 MIR Intel Core i5 3570K + MSI Z77A-G43 ATX
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=71600&vpn=3570K & Z77A-G43&manufacture=Bundle Deals&promoid=1207

(or you can buy them separately for ~10$ more and get "1 x FREE Tribes Ascend Promo Pack PC Game Electronic Digital Download Coupon *Intel Promo Only*" (you will need to pricematch with tigerdirect)

$34.99 Antec Neo Eco 450C Power Supply (dont think it comes with power cable)
http://forums.ncix.com/forums/?mode=showthread&msg_id=2482119&threadid=2482119&forum=101&product_id=60491&msgcount=11&overclockid=0#msg2482119

$17.99 Sony Optiarc 18X DVD-ROM
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=51112&vpn=DDU1681S-0B&manufacture=Sony Accessories&promoid=1207

$279.99 after $20 MIR XFX Radeon HD 7870 1 x FREE Colin McRae Dirt Showdown PC Game Electronic Digital Download
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=69828&vpn=FX787ACNFC&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1207

$43.99 Kingston KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX 8GB Kit 2X4GB
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=70136&vpn=KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1207

$47.99 Antec One Mid-Tower (the case says 155m CPU heatsink clearance but I have read in forums that it hyper 212, which is taller than the A50 fits but you need to look it up)
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=67322&vpn=ONE&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1207

$29.99 Corsair Cooling Air Series A50
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=53611&promoid=1207

Choices of harddrive/SSD: + Show Spoiler +
(not sure if you need space or care about ssd, note that more knowledgeable people than me on these forms usually include ssd with your budget but I think the prices will keep dropping and you can live without one if you arent used to one)

$94.99 Mushkin Chronos 120GB
http://ncix.com/products/index.php sku=62873&vpn=MKNSSDCR120GB&manufacture=Mushkin%20Enhanced&promoid=1207

$209.99 Crucial M4 Micron C400 SSD 256GB
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?
sku=60446&vpn=CT256M4SSD2&manufacture=CRUCIAL%20TECHNOLOGY&promoid=1207

$79.99 Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 7200.12 1TB http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=58746&vpn=ST31000524AS&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1207


So without the Hdrive/SSD, its $899.92 pretaxes and before MIR

Also, you might want to wait for others to respond as i am not an expert
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 12 2012 21:13 GMT
#23282
On July 13 2012 00:56 Womwomwom wrote:
What is with Microcenter and crazy cheap Intel hardware? Does anyone know how they even operate and make money?


Maybe they make up for the low margins through word of mouth advertising and the resulting volume of sales?
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 21:52:49
July 12 2012 21:45 GMT
#23283
On July 12 2012 05:53 manGomaGic wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

greetings fellow TLers! i posted in this thread a number of months ago in regards to building a new gaming pc and got some awesome help. someone had built the pc suited for me and selected all the parts i needed, however, i was not able to go through with building the unit due to being called up for army duties unexpectedly. i just got back home about a week ago and i want to try this again

here's the questions i answered to help build me a gaming rig!
+ Show Spoiler +

i mainly play HoN/DotA 2/SC2.

Budget: 700$
Gaming resolution: 1280x1024
Main use: Gaming
Upgrade cycle: 1 year
Planned date of purchase: Within the next month
Overclocking: No
Operating system required: No
Crossfire/SLI: No
Buying parts from NCIX.com

(already have all computer peripherals)


thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to help me out...




$34.99 Antec Neo Eco 450C Power Supply (dont think it comes with power cable)
http://forums.ncix.com/forums/?mode=showthread&msg_id=2482119&threadid=2482119&forum=101&product_id=60491&msgcount=11&overclockid=0#msg2482119

$17.99 Sony Optiarc 18X DVD-ROM
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=51112&vpn=DDU1681S-0B&manufacture=Sony Accessories&promoid=1207

$43.99 Kingston KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX 8GB Kit 2X4GB
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=70136&vpn=KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX&manufacture=Kingston&promoid=1207

$47.99 Antec One Mid-Tower
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=67322&vpn=ONE&manufacture=Antec&promoid=1207

$79.99 Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 7200.12 1TB
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=58746&vpn=ST31000524AS&manufacture=Seagate&promoid=1207

$189.99 Intel Core i5 3470
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=72279&promoid=1207

$94.99 MSI H77A-G43 ATX LGA1155
http://ncix.com/products/?sku=69922&promoid=1360

GPU: + Show Spoiler +

If you plan on only playing those 3 games:
$124.99 after $15 MIR XFX Radeon HD 6850
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=63985&vpn=HD685XZCFC&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1015

But I suggest not making this computer for only 1 year by spending more on the GPU
Should still be in budget:
$154.99 after $20 MIR XFX Radeon HD 6870
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=62756&vpn=HD687AZHFC&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1015

Dont think its in budget:
$199.99 after $20 MIR MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=68454&vpn=N560GTX-Ti-M2D1GD5/OC&manufacture=MSI/MicroStar&promoid=1207

And t ~$240 pricepoint you can get the HD 7850


Total with the cheapest GPU: $649.92 pretax and before MIR

I am no expert so you might want to wait for more/other responses.

imo you should spend abit more on the gpu (maybe even 7850) if you can, and next year get a nice monitor, the computer should last you a good three years.
SoulWager
Profile Joined August 2010
United States464 Posts
July 12 2012 23:40 GMT
#23284
On July 13 2012 00:56 Womwomwom wrote:
What is with Microcenter and crazy cheap Intel hardware? Does anyone know how they even operate and make money?

It's possible it's just a loss leader, or they might have a special deal with Intel.
TheToaster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States280 Posts
July 12 2012 23:42 GMT
#23285
I just plugged in a 6/8 pin PCI-e cable from the power supply into the 4/4 pin connector on my motherboard (the one that powers the CPU). This ins't supposed to happen, and I tried to power up the system while they were connected the wrong way.

How fucked am I right now?
Oh, get a job? Just get a job? Why don't I strap on my job helmet, squeeze down into a job cannon, and fire off into job land, where jobs grow on jobbies!
SoulWager
Profile Joined August 2010
United States464 Posts
July 13 2012 00:03 GMT
#23286
On July 13 2012 08:42 TheToaster wrote:
I just plugged in a 6/8 pin PCI-e cable from the power supply into the 4/4 pin connector on my motherboard (the one that powers the CPU). This ins't supposed to happen, and I tried to power up the system while they were connected the wrong way.

How fucked am I right now?

no way to tell until you fix the cables and try it.
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1843 Posts
July 13 2012 00:45 GMT
#23287
So I just got a new computer, but my GPU's fan doesn't work anymore. It's a GEForce 9800 GT. I think I'd rather upgrade the video card rather than buying a new fan for it, any ideas on what to buy?

I play games at a 1600x900 resolution. I play SC2 (which my Intel 4000 HD card actually runs amazingly, lol), Blacklight: Retribution, GTA 4, Saints Row, stuff like that. Nothing extremely graphically intensive, but stuff that still need a decent card to run.

I was looking at the GTX 550 Ti though: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130625

Based on Newegg reviews, it looks amazing. Based on Tom's Hardware reviews, it's a few tiers above what I have now and looks to be 1. a solid upgrade and 2. something that will last a long time. I wasn't able to find any benchmarking results for it on anandtech. What do you guys think?
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
July 13 2012 00:52 GMT
#23288
On July 13 2012 09:45 GoShox wrote:
So I just got a new computer, but my GPU's fan doesn't work anymore. It's a GEForce 9800 GT. I think I'd rather upgrade the video card rather than buying a new fan for it, any ideas on what to buy?

I play games at a 1600x900 resolution. I play SC2 (which my Intel 4000 HD card actually runs amazingly, lol), Blacklight: Retribution, GTA 4, Saints Row, stuff like that. Nothing extremely graphically intensive, but stuff that still need a decent card to run.

I was looking at the GTX 550 Ti though: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130625

Based on Newegg reviews, it looks amazing. Based on Tom's Hardware reviews, it's a few tiers above what I have now and looks to be 1. a solid upgrade and 2. something that will last a long time. I wasn't able to find any benchmarking results for it on anandtech. What do you guys think?


What is your power supply/budget and are you looking into playing other games?

You are better off with this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127687
better performance, less power/heat and etc
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=541
XxVeZZxX
Profile Joined March 2012
United States12 Posts
July 13 2012 01:00 GMT
#23289
Radeon HD 7850 brands? I am going to buy a Radeon HD 7850 for my rig but I am unclear about some of the differences between brands such as ASUS, MSI, and Sapphire. My rig is- i5-2500K, ASUS z68 mobo, 8 gigs 1.65v ram, 1.5 caviar green HD, all powered by a Cooler Masters 500watt PSU. I was looking at the ASUS 7850 but it is always sold out so could someone tell me the differences besides the general things?
Balls Deep
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1843 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 01:03:56
July 13 2012 01:01 GMT
#23290
On July 13 2012 09:52 Ata wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 09:45 GoShox wrote:
So I just got a new computer, but my GPU's fan doesn't work anymore. It's a GEForce 9800 GT. I think I'd rather upgrade the video card rather than buying a new fan for it, any ideas on what to buy?

I play games at a 1600x900 resolution. I play SC2 (which my Intel 4000 HD card actually runs amazingly, lol), Blacklight: Retribution, GTA 4, Saints Row, stuff like that. Nothing extremely graphically intensive, but stuff that still need a decent card to run.

I was looking at the GTX 550 Ti though: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130625

Based on Newegg reviews, it looks amazing. Based on Tom's Hardware reviews, it's a few tiers above what I have now and looks to be 1. a solid upgrade and 2. something that will last a long time. I wasn't able to find any benchmarking results for it on anandtech. What do you guys think?


What is your power supply/budget and are you looking into playing other games?

You are better off with this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127687
better performance, less power/heat and etc
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=541


My bad.. I completely forgot to post such obvious stuff lol. Power supply is 650 W so that shouldn't be too much of an issue, as far as price range, anywhere from $100 to $150, maybe a little bit more if it's a really good deal. I tend to play whatever, I stick to SC2 most of the time but I pick up new games if they're really good. I don't obsess over graphics so as long as the card can run newer games without any lag on low/medium settings, I'm fine with that.

Edit: I guess another thing to add is that I do want to run dual monitor at some point in the future. If I'm able to, I'm fine with just running my main monitor on the GPU and my other monitor on the integrated card, not sure if that's possible though.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
July 13 2012 01:03 GMT
#23291
cheapest one, sapphire is usually good with the dual-x at low prices
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
XxVeZZxX
Profile Joined March 2012
United States12 Posts
July 13 2012 01:08 GMT
#23292
Okay but is there really a difference between the cheaper sapphire and the one thats a little more? (aside from core clock) Because if the cheaper one will be the exact same when i OC it then there would be no point.
Balls Deep
Ata
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 01:57:44
July 13 2012 01:53 GMT
#23293
On July 13 2012 10:01 GoShox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 09:52 Ata wrote:
On July 13 2012 09:45 GoShox wrote:
So I just got a new computer, but my GPU's fan doesn't work anymore. It's a GEForce 9800 GT. I think I'd rather upgrade the video card rather than buying a new fan for it, any ideas on what to buy?

I play games at a 1600x900 resolution. I play SC2 (which my Intel 4000 HD card actually runs amazingly, lol), Blacklight: Retribution, GTA 4, Saints Row, stuff like that. Nothing extremely graphically intensive, but stuff that still need a decent card to run.

I was looking at the GTX 550 Ti though: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130625

Based on Newegg reviews, it looks amazing. Based on Tom's Hardware reviews, it's a few tiers above what I have now and looks to be 1. a solid upgrade and 2. something that will last a long time. I wasn't able to find any benchmarking results for it on anandtech. What do you guys think?


What is your power supply/budget and are you looking into playing other games?

You are better off with this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127687
better performance, less power/heat and etc
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/536?vs=541


My bad.. I completely forgot to post such obvious stuff lol. Power supply is 650 W so that shouldn't be too much of an issue, as far as price range, anywhere from $100 to $150, maybe a little bit more if it's a really good deal. I tend to play whatever, I stick to SC2 most of the time but I pick up new games if they're really good. I don't obsess over graphics so as long as the card can run newer games without any lag on low/medium settings, I'm fine with that.

Edit: I guess another thing to add is that I do want to run dual monitor at some point in the future. If I'm able to, I'm fine with just running my main monitor on the GPU and my other monitor on the integrated card, not sure if that's possible though.


I think going with the one I suggested should be good enough for you, I dont see why you should spend more, its 10$ less than the 550Ti ($110 after MIR), comes with free game and as you can see in benchmarks, its better/cooler/more power efficient. and its going to be much better than what you have now, so I dont think you will be disappointed.

but incase you are interested, the next price points are 6850 at $150, 6870 @ $170 and the 560ti at $200.

edit: and to answer your multi display question, you will connect one monitor via HDMI and other via DVI

the 550Ti you posted has 2 DVI and one mini HDMI. (still only 2 screen outputs i think)
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
July 13 2012 02:06 GMT
#23294
On July 13 2012 10:08 XxVeZZxX wrote:
Okay but is there really a difference between the cheaper sapphire and the one thats a little more? (aside from core clock) Because if the cheaper one will be the exact same when i OC it then there would be no point.


Ones that are clocked higher have a higher probability to oc a bit higher, that's all, and it's only a probability

though i saw someone OC their hd7850 to almost 7950 performance, for half the price, that's nice
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 13 2012 02:10 GMT
#23295
On July 13 2012 11:06 Rachnar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 13 2012 10:08 XxVeZZxX wrote:
Okay but is there really a difference between the cheaper sapphire and the one thats a little more? (aside from core clock) Because if the cheaper one will be the exact same when i OC it then there would be no point.


Ones that are clocked higher have a higher probability to oc a bit higher, that's all, and it's only a probability

though i saw someone OC their hd7850 to almost 7950 performance, for half the price, that's nice


Depends on the brand, too. Some brands, a factory OC will just cause chaos if you play anything that actually pushes it above ~85%, because the factory OC/voltage settings don't always work out with the samples they got under max loads.

I'm not entirely sure who gets the best binned shit, though. I get really lazy on things like that since I'm such an EVGA fanboy.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
July 13 2012 02:26 GMT
#23296
Well i can't tell, all GPU's i've ever got couldn't handle a 10% OC without crahsing every 30 seconds so....

exept my old laptop's GPU, i OC'D that shit like 30-40% never got a problem, heat was even fine (especially for a laptop, never went above 75° if i recall right, and that was at 100% usage)
"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 13 2012 02:40 GMT
#23297
On July 13 2012 11:26 Rachnar wrote:
Well i can't tell, all GPU's i've ever got couldn't handle a 10% OC without crahsing every 30 seconds so....

exept my old laptop's GPU, i OC'D that shit like 30-40% never got a problem, heat was even fine (especially for a laptop, never went above 75° if i recall right, and that was at 100% usage)


I'm a big fan of trying to explode mine. Hence being an EVGA fanboy. I think most other companies would just laugh in my face if I tried to open an RMA.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-13 02:50:17
July 13 2012 02:49 GMT
#23298
Well, my gtx 590 was able to hit only 650... with baseclock being at 607, otherwise it just plain crash's
edit : well i'll admit it only crashs in really graphic intense games (metro crysis and only those 2, but's already enough for me to lower clocks a bit)

my hd6870 had to basicly be at stock otherwise it would from time to time crash

"What if it's a triple DK ?" "Then we cry" "Prepare your handkerchief then ..."
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
July 13 2012 02:55 GMT
#23299
My 460s were at 825, up from the stock 650. (Mine were old, not the v2's that came higher stock and OCed to 900 nicely.)

My 560Ti's are only at 875 right now (stock 822), but that's mostly out of laziness borne from having a toddler who doesn't allow me to sleep.
Rachnar
Profile Joined October 2010
France1526 Posts
July 13 2012 03:00 GMT
#23300
It's skyrim that's keeping me from sleeping, 5am here and i got to go to work tomorow .... gonna be a long day
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