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When using this resource, please read FragKrag's opening post. The Tech Support forum regulars have helped create countless of desktop systems without any compensation. The least you can do is provide all of the information required for them to help you properly.
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 18:06:05
July 10 2012 17:55 GMT
#23261
On July 08 2012 18:03 Incze wrote:
Hey guys, I haven't upgraded my pc in a few years now and it can't really keep up anymore. I have to play every single game on the lowest settings, and even then it may not run.

I have a budget of about 400 dollars, 500-600 at the most, though I'd really want to get as much as possible really cheap.

My HDD is the only part that is semi-up-to-date, a 500GB S-ATA2, so that doesn't need immediate replacement, but pretty much everything else has to go. I also don't need a case nor OS.

I want to use this PC for gaming, mainly, but I want to do some software development on it, too. My monitor is 17'' and I run 1280x1024

I could put it off for another month or two if it's suggested, and I may even get a bit more money in the meantime, whatever you say, TL.

Thank you.


Not sure if the following would be the cheapest place to buy. I recommend comparing the price (especially after tax & shipping) with other potential vendors for you. The GPU takes your monitor (and budget) into account. It won't be quite as awesome if you upgrade to a 1920x1080 monitor. Also, some items may not currently in stock, but should be available through hardwareversand.de pretty regularly.

Case & stuffs: 86 euro
Merc Alpha, Super Flower Amazon 400w, dvd-burner
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/Midi/61767/Special item: BitFenix Merc Alpha.article
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/400 - 500 Watts/30074/Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W.article
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/S-ATA/49433/Sony Optiarc AD-7280S-0B schwarz.article

Core CPU components: 269 euro
i5-3450 (pretty high-end for your budget, but not overclockable) MSI B75MA-P45 motherboard, g.skill 2x4gb value ram
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/Socket 1155/56298/Intel Core i5-3450 Box, LGA1155.article
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/58060/MSI B75MA-P45, Intel B75, mATX, DDR3.article
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/1333 Low Voltage/44315/8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9.article

GPU: XFX 6770 (87 euro)
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/1024 MB/48936/XFX RADEON HD 6770 850M 1GB DDR5 DUAL DVI, Mini HDMI.article

Total: 442 Euro

You could improve the graphics card, such as by getting this 7770 (+30 euro)
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/1024 MB/59887/MSI R7770-PMD1GD5, 1024MB DDR5, PCI-Express.article
or you could pay another 100 or so euro for the ability to overclock, but the above is probably what I'd go with.

Again, the budget is weighted towards processor rather than GPU because of your small resolution. If you plan to upgrade your monitor in the near future, a budget with a worse CPU in favor of a better GPU might be better for you. But this will do everything you want it to until you upgrade your monitor. Even then the 6770 will play any game smoothly if you don't mind low settings and easy-to-run games like SC2 or Diablo 3 should manage high or maximum graphics. The 7770 would improve that somewhat.

Edit: if you wanted as cheap as possible gaming rig, you can replace the CPU & mobo with the following:
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/59560/MSI H61M-P20 (G3), Intel H61, mATX.article
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/59560/MSI H61M-P20 (G3), Intel H61, mATX.article

That would drop the price by a little over 100 euro.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 20:44:05
July 10 2012 20:06 GMT
#23262
Thank you very much, I was afraid my post would be forgotten but it seems like it wasn't. 442 euro is doable, but I'll have to stretch a bit, maybe I'll even find these parts cheaper at the local stores/online.
Gratitude!

oh yay, it's already my birthday in the states

Yeah, the CPU is a bit too much for my budget, wouldn't an i3 2120 be enough? I'm no expert, that's why I am asking, but it seems like many people praise that CPU, so I guess it must be good.

I'm not familiar with that website but didn't you link the same mobo twice at the end?
Religion: Buckethead
Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 20:43:55
July 10 2012 20:41 GMT
#23263
Edit: It seems like quote != edit
Sorry
Religion: Buckethead
MisterFred
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2033 Posts
July 10 2012 23:56 GMT
#23264
Hmm looks like I did link the same mobo twice at the end. I meant to add a g630 with it. The i3 would work fine, by the way.
"The victor? Not the highest scoring, nor the best strategist, nor the best tactitian. The victor was he that was closest to the Tao of FFA." -.Praetor
jw232
Profile Joined January 2009
United States157 Posts
July 11 2012 03:23 GMT
#23265
Does this graphics card require any additional power, or can I just put it in the PCIe slot?
ObliviousNA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States535 Posts
July 11 2012 16:31 GMT
#23266
Quick OC question: I'm looking to overclock my ivy bridge (3770k) soon. This is my first OC attempt, so I'm going to play it as safe as possible. Is there a guide somewhere that's Ivy bridge specific anyone can recommend?

I've heard you can push your processor to ~3.9/4.0 on stock voltage, should I bother tweaking it on air cooling for another 200-300mhz?
Theory is when you know everything but nothing works. Practice is when everything works but no one knows why. In our lab, theory and practice are combined: nothing works and no one knows why.
manGomaGic
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada94 Posts
July 11 2012 20:53 GMT
#23267
greetings fellow TLers! i posted in this thread a number of months ago in regards to building a new gaming pc and got some awesome help. someone had built the pc suited for me and selected all the parts i needed, however, i was not able to go through with building the unit due to being called up for army duties unexpectedly. i just got back home about a week ago and i want to try this again

here's the questions i answered to help build me a gaming rig!
+ Show Spoiler +

i mainly play HoN/DotA 2/SC2.

Budget: 700$
Gaming resolution: 1280x1024
Main use: Gaming
Upgrade cycle: 1 year
Planned date of purchase: Within the next month
Overclocking: No
Operating system required: No
Crossfire/SLI: No
Buying parts from NCIX.com

(already have all computer peripherals)


thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to help me out...
Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
July 11 2012 21:23 GMT
#23268
On July 11 2012 12:23 jw232 wrote:
Does this graphics card require any additional power, or can I just put it in the PCIe slot?

It takes all the power from the slot. The only graphics cards that are faster, that likewise only take power from the slot, are HD 6670 with GDDR5 memory, GT 640, and HD 7750.


On July 12 2012 01:31 ObliviousNA wrote:
Quick OC question: I'm looking to overclock my ivy bridge (3770k) soon. This is my first OC attempt, so I'm going to play it as safe as possible. Is there a guide somewhere that's Ivy bridge specific anyone can recommend?

I've heard you can push your processor to ~3.9/4.0 on stock voltage, should I bother tweaking it on air cooling for another 200-300mhz?

I haven't really followed closely, but even to say 4.2-4.3 GHz you can probably just up the voltage by about 0.05V (chip dependent), set that clock speed, and it will work so long as you've got better than stock cooling. For long-term use, mild increases in voltage is probably not an issue, particularly if the CPU isn't under 24/7 high load and if the power-saving features are left on.


On July 12 2012 05:53 manGomaGic wrote:
greetings fellow TLers! i posted in this thread a number of months ago in regards to building a new gaming pc and got some awesome help. someone had built the pc suited for me and selected all the parts i needed, however, i was not able to go through with building the unit due to being called up for army duties unexpectedly. i just got back home about a week ago and i want to try this again

here's the questions i answered to help build me a gaming rig!
+ Show Spoiler +

i mainly play HoN/DotA 2/SC2.

Budget: 700$
Gaming resolution: 1280x1024
Main use: Gaming
Upgrade cycle: 1 year
Planned date of purchase: Within the next month
Overclocking: No
Operating system required: No
Crossfire/SLI: No
Buying parts from NCIX.com

(already have all computer peripherals)


thanks in advance to anyone who takes the time to help me out...

NCIX weekly deals reset on Wednesday, so anybody helping is probably going to wait at least until tonight. If "within the next month" means not in the next 7 days, then maybe come back during the week you'll actually purchase.
snowbird
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Germany2044 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 04:33:13
July 12 2012 04:32 GMT
#23269
On July 12 2012 01:31 ObliviousNA wrote:
Quick OC question: I'm looking to overclock my ivy bridge (3770k) soon. This is my first OC attempt, so I'm going to play it as safe as possible. Is there a guide somewhere that's Ivy bridge specific anyone can recommend?

I've heard you can push your processor to ~3.9/4.0 on stock voltage, should I bother tweaking it on air cooling for another 200-300mhz?


I'm not an OC expert, but here's my experience with the 3770k: Overclocking to 4.2Ghz is a piece of cake. Set multiplier to 42, done! No need for voltage adjustment and the temps at 4.2 shouldn't rise by much. I think only from 4.4 onwards you'll have to play with voltage and look out for the temps.

Not sure how high you want to go, but if you're just looking for a slight OC you should be totally fine with 4.2Ghz at stock voltage with stock cooler. (Every system is different so be sure to do proper tests ofc)
@riotsnowbird
Luc
Profile Joined July 2012
1 Post
July 12 2012 05:22 GMT
#23270
Hi,
Looking to build a computer from scratch.
Budget: $500
Screen Resolution: 1680x1050
Use: Gaming, would like to be able to play starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 optimally on the highest settings possible.
Build Time: As soon as I recieve an answer.
Overclocking: No
Operating System: Not needed, nor is a monitor, keyboard, mouse.
Site Preference: Newegg, unless a different website is really recommended.

Thank you for any and all help. If you need to know anything else just ask.
iTzSnypah
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1738 Posts
July 12 2012 05:59 GMT
#23271
On July 12 2012 14:22 Luc wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Hi,
Looking to build a computer from scratch.
Budget: $500
Screen Resolution: 1680x1050
Use: Gaming, would like to be able to play starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 optimally on the highest settings possible.
Build Time: As soon as I recieve an answer.
Overclocking: No
Operating System: Not needed, nor is a monitor, keyboard, mouse.
Site Preference: Newegg, unless a different website is really recommended.

Thank you for any and all help. If you need to know anything else just ask.


i3-2120 & ASRock H61M/U3S3 mATX $163.98 with promo code EMCNCJN34, ends 7/16
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.989362

Crucial 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3-1333 1.35v $ 25.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148474

HIS HD6870 $159.99 ($149.99AMIR) free dirt3 coupon
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161389

Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB $64.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136769

BitFenix Merc Beta ATX mid tower $39.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811345015

Corsiar CX430 $39.99 with promo code EMCNCJN26, ends 7/16 ($19.99AMIR)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139026

DVD Burner $16.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204

Total: $511.92 ($481.92AMIR)
Team Liquid needs more Terrans.
manGomaGic
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada94 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 07:47:14
July 12 2012 07:47 GMT
#23272
NCIX weekly deals reset on Wednesday, so anybody helping is probably going to wait at least until tonight. If "within the next month" means not in the next 7 days, then maybe come back during the week you'll actually purchase.


i'm in no rush... if and when someone helps me out, i'll be thankful
Strategy without tactics is the slowest route to victory. Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.
TempusDESU
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia87 Posts
July 12 2012 08:45 GMT
#23273
Hey guys, just hoping that someone could check over a build a friend made. All of the parts can be found here: http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=wish_lists&wlcId=71959&action=wish_lists

What is your budget?

Around $1700 AU.

What is your resolution?

1920x1200

What are you using it for?

Gaming, everyday use. and I plan to use my flatscreen LCD TV as the screen.

What is your upgrade cycle?

I'm not worried about upgrading for now.

When do you plan on building it?

As soon as possible.

Do you plan on overclocking?

No.

Do you need an Operating System?

Yes

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?

No

Where are you buying your parts from?

pccasegear.com.au

Please tell me if there are any changes or additions that would be worth making. My friend is set on getting a GTX 670.
I need a new quote :S
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
July 12 2012 14:32 GMT
#23274
Microcenter has i52500k for just 169.99 not sure if everyone knows this or not but its porbably the most common processor being used in all these builds so just FYI. 60$ cheaper than newegg
Dhays9
Profile Joined May 2011
United States51 Posts
July 12 2012 14:46 GMT
#23275
On July 12 2012 23:32 aBstractx wrote:
Microcenter has i52500k for just 169.99 not sure if everyone knows this or not but its porbably the most common processor being used in all these builds so just FYI. 60$ cheaper than newegg


Its also in-store only and Mico Center does not have a lot of locations (additionally none outside of US). Therefore, you have to be lucky enough to be near one or know someone who is near one. However if you do have one close by they have really nice deals such as the one stated above or the i5-3750k for $189.99.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
July 12 2012 15:56 GMT
#23276
What is with Microcenter and crazy cheap Intel hardware? Does anyone know how they even operate and make money?
Chimonk
Profile Joined June 2012
6 Posts
July 12 2012 16:33 GMT
#23277
What is your budget?
$1100 CAN

What is your resolution?
1920×1080

What are you using it for?
Mostly gaming on high/ ultra settings and mid quality streaming

What is your upgrade cycle?
4 years.

When do you plan on building it?
The next couple of days

Do you plan on overclocking?
Yes but only slightly

Do you need an Operating System?
No

Do you plan to add a second GPU for SLI or Crossfire?
No.

Where are you buying your parts from?
nicx.com
aBstractx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States287 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 18:32:11
July 12 2012 18:12 GMT
#23278
I'm trying to get together some components for a build but i'm quite uncertain as to what is so good about each motherboard.

i want the best motherboard for the i52500k.what should i look for in a motherboard?

integrated means there is a video card on board already so it takes up some of the cpus ram so for gaming i dont want this right?
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 18:46:40
July 12 2012 18:44 GMT
#23279
Hey guys.

I'm looking for some help with building a small business server (no clue if I need any specific things or what).
Here's what I have so far:

Intel i3-2120 - $110 after coupon (do I need to be worried about thermal paste, or should the stock fan be sufficient?)
2x Caviar Blue 500GB - $130
8GB G.Skill Value Series RAM - $39
GIGABYTE GA-H77M-D3H Motherboard - $95
Cooler Master 430 Case - $30 after coupon & MIR
Sony DVD Drive - $17
Rosewill 120mm Case Fan - $7
Antec Earthwatts 380W - $43

Total: $471.
Are there parts I should get at lower prices? Also more specifically, I plan to set up the 2 HDDs in raid1 using the onboard controller on the mobo. Will this suffice, or would I need a dedicated controller? (really small business, but the files are really important so availability is crucial) Lastly, is 8GB RAM overkill? If I were building a home system I would definitely go with 8, but I'm not so sure about a server.

Thanks!
edit: another thing; what OS would you guys recommend? Ubuntu or some other Linux distro, or Windows Home Server or SBS?
derp
BoatsandJoes
Profile Joined April 2012
United States4 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-12 20:34:32
July 12 2012 19:12 GMT
#23280
Hey all! I'm putting together my own computer for the first time and I'm looking for help finishing up my build. I'm aiming to spend less than $2000 on hardware, and I think I'll be able to stay within that range easily (although I can go a little over if I really want to). I'll be running Windows 7 Home Premium on two monitors, one at 1280x1024 and the other at 1920x1080. I'll be playing pretty much every sort of game at 1920x1080, including RTS (StarCraft II), FPS (Tribes: Ascend, Quake Live), and third person sandbox (Sleeping Dogs, GTA V). In addition, I will also be doing some programming (not progaming!) and streaming, as well as casual music listening (via Spotify). I'm going to hold onto this computer for maybe 4 years with only minor upgrades, so the goal of this build is to absolutely demolish modern programs on my monitor setup so that future programs will still run pretty well.

Here's the parts list so far:
+ Show Spoiler +
gpu: ASUS GeForce GTX 670 DirectCU II TOP ($430)
cpu: Intel i7 3770K LGA 1155 ($350)
hard drive (system): Crucial m4 256 GB SSD ($190)
hard drive (storage): 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD or something similar (<$100)
ram: 1 8GB DDR3 module ($40)
optical drive: Lite-On Internal DVD Writer ($18)
total so far: $1150 or so


I'm planning to buy all of the parts this month, mostly from a local Microcenter but I'll shop around online for better deals on the same components. I am *not* planning to overclock now, but I might overclock the cpu a few years down the road to keep performance up (the gpu is already factory overclocked by kind of a lot). I doubt I'll ever get a second video card for SLI.

The things I still need to know are:
+ Show Spoiler +
1) Are there any glaring issues with my setup so far?
2) What motherboard should I buy, or at the very least, which chipset should I use? I'm using the 1155 socket type. I know that I want pretty good onboard audio (don't want to scrape the very bottom of the sound barrel) but also enough room to put on a dedicated sound card later (just in case), and I hear Asus is good for that, but other than that I have no idea how to narrow my choices down. I want onboard NIC for ethernet but I hear most motherboards have that these days. I probably want at least four usb ports in total (mouse, keyboard, plus two or more extra) if that's a factor. I'm about 80% certain that I won't need to connect a wireless card for WiFi: I'll update as soon as I find out for sure if I'll be setting up a wired connection.
3) I need an aftermarket cpu cooler (especially if I overclock in the future), so which one should I get? Am I wrong in assuming that air cooling should be fine for my needs and still relatively quiet? Finally, if you're suggesting a motherboard, will I need an aftermarket cooler for it as well? (I think the stock fan on the gpu is fine; that's why I picked it over the EVGA ftw edition.)
4) Any case suggestions? I haven't even looked for this yet, because obviously the motherboard is a factor, but I want it as small as possible for the components I'm using (I'll need to move the computer around occasionally, so a case any bigger than I need is a liability) without sacrificing too much airflow. The only upgrades I'm seriously planning to make are a dedicated sound card and potentially another 8 GB of RAM, so I don't need to leave too much space for that purpose.


Thank you all so much for helping
P.S.- I know that I need a PSU. I figure I can pick that out by myself later, but if anyone has suggestions they're appreciated.
edit- I forgot to mention this explicitly, but I do live in America, so Europe-only deals are out.
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